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Rabbis Visit Vandalized Mosque--Bring Korans, Condemn Attack
The Jewish Press ^ | 10/6/'10 | Unattributed

Posted on 10/06/2010 11:56:09 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

A group of rabbis from Gush Etzion visited a mosque in the village of Beit Fajjar on Tuesday, a day after it had been defaced and burned. In addition to setting a fire, the vandals marked up the mosque with Hebrew graffiti and burned copies of the Koran.

Prime Minister Netanyahu and Defense Minister Barak condemned the attack, which witnesses allege was carried out by Jewish settlers driving a car with Israeli license plates.

"Whoever did this is a terrorist in every sense of the word," said Barak. "This was a shameful act that besmirched the state of Israel and its values."

The rabbinic delegation, which was led by Rabbi Menachem Froman and included Rabbis Aharon Lichtenstein and Shlomo Riskin, brought along new copies of the Koran.

Palestinians cheered the rabbis as they arrived in Beit Fajjar in atmor-plated cars accompanied by Israeli soldiers.

"Our goal is to share our horror at the attack of the mosque and to clearly state that this is not the way of the Torah or the Jewish way," said Rabbi Shlomo Brin of the Yeshivat Har Etzion.

"This act does nothing for the settlements; it is morally and religiously wrong and is offensive to its core," he added. "This is not how we educated our children. Islam is not a hostile religion even if we have a dispute with some of its followers."

The governor of Bethlehem, Abdel Fatah Hamayel, said: "We welcome the Jews to Beit Fajjar so they can see with their own eyes the crime that was committed in this mosque, which was against humanity and against religion."

Speaking on Voice of Israel radio, a leading nationalist rabbi, Elyakim Levanon, condemned the desecration of the mosque.

"I do not justify and I totally condemn these activities," said Rabbi Levanon, adding that police searching for the attackers should be just as diligent in tracking down Arabs who attack Jews.

He said attacking a mosque "is not the Jewish way" and pointed out that there is no conclusive evidence yet as to whether Jews were involved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libfantasy; mosque; rabbis; vandalism
Personally, I think the Israeli government and these rabbis overdid it.
1 posted on 10/06/2010 11:56:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Alouette; hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 11:57:21 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofekh dam ha'adam, ba'adam damo yishshafekh; ki betzelem 'Eloqim `asah 'et-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"The rabbinic delegation... brought along new copies of the Koran.

I think back to when the GITMO terrorist detainees went ballistic because US soldiers touched (with their infidel hands) the korans they were distributing. We caved and made the soldiers handle korans with surgical gloves.

Just wondering if the (infidel) rabbis wore gloves, and if not what the Muslims will do with those korans after the cameras and press leave?

3 posted on 10/06/2010 12:38:44 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> Rabbis Visit Vandalized Mosque—Bring Korans, Condemn Attack

I understand the humanitarian gesture, and I commend the thinking behind it.

HOWEVER ....

Mosques are places where the extermination of the Jews is preached, planned, and prosecuted.

That is why you will never, ever see any kind of reciprocation of mangnanimity from the proselytes of the pedophile pirate.


4 posted on 10/06/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“The governor of Bethlehem, Abdel Fatah Hamayel, said: “We welcome the Jews to Beit Fajjar so they can see with their own eyes the crime that was committed in this mosque, which was against humanity and against religion.””

Where was this guy when 8 Jewish students were slaughtered in their yeshiva by some fuslim?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125487

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5 posted on 10/06/2010 1:44:30 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Islam is not a hostile religion


6 posted on 10/06/2010 1:51:07 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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7 posted on 10/06/2010 4:50:28 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Rabbis Visit Vandalized Mosque--Bring Korans, Condemn Attack

Guess who hopes the crocodiles will eat them last.

8 posted on 10/06/2010 5:15:58 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I generally oppose the reading of non-Jewish religious texts, but I assume the Rabbis are of an age and state of learning that they could safely do so.

I have read the koran.

It’s a transparent crapfest of bad and internally conflicting theology and hatred of Jewish people (and jealousy), with the goal of propping up the author and his descendants as warlords.

I actually suggest these Rabbis read that book, focusing in on how “People of the Book” are really to be treated.


9 posted on 10/06/2010 5:30:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
It’s a transparent crapfest of bad and internally conflicting theology

Sure you are not talking about the NT :)

10 posted on 10/06/2010 6:39:04 PM PDT by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Personally, I think the Israeli government and these rabbis overdid it.

I agree though I believe that that type of vandalism is petty and not indicative of how a Jew should act. It puts us on their level and that's not what Hashem would expect from a Jew, imo.

11 posted on 10/06/2010 6:44:45 PM PDT by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: papabrody
I agree though I believe that that type of vandalism is petty and not indicative of how a Jew should act. It puts us on their level and that's not what Hashem would expect from a Jew, imo.

I don't disagree with you, though I think the reaction was way too PC.

Isn't it a mitzvah to refuse to allow idol worshipers to settle in 'Eretz Yisra'el and to destroy their places of worship? There's certainly nothing petty from obeying the mitzvot as Joshua did during the Conquest.

12 posted on 10/06/2010 8:10:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofekh dam ha'adam, ba'adam damo yishshafekh; ki betzelem 'Eloqim `asah 'et-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I agree with you. Mitvahs would be showering eretz israel if the pagan/idol-worshipping/proselytizing religion was removed from its borders. Then, hypothetically, after that religion has been removed, you would have to tackle removing Islam.
13 posted on 10/06/2010 9:27:43 PM PDT by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: papabrody
It’s a transparent crapfest of bad and internally conflicting theology

Sure you are not talking about the NT :)

'Otoh davar! XD

14 posted on 10/07/2010 3:34:38 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofekh dam ha'adam, ba'adam damo yishshafekh; ki betzelem 'Eloqim `asah 'et-ha'adam.)
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To: papabrody
I agree with you. Mitvahs would be showering eretz israel if the pagan/idol-worshipping/proselytizing religion was removed from its borders. Then, hypothetically, after that religion has been removed, you would have to tackle removing Islam.

Unfortunately, the modern "Jewish worldview" doesn't derive from Torah but from the Jewish People's suffering at the hands of chr*stianity, which means that Jewishness is identified with pluralism, multiculturalism, diversity, tolerance, etc. Just advocate removing non-Jews from 'Eretz HaQodesh as Rabbi Kahana' (zt"l; Hy"d) did and see what happens to you.

Actually, only American-style Fundamentalist Protestantism is proselytary, and it is the least idolatrous form of chr*stianity. Meanwhile the more idolatrous forms (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Non-Chalcaedonianism) are purely ethnic religions that keep going solely by reproduction. The former is proselytary but pro-Israel, the latter non-proselytary but as anti-Israel as the moslems.

There is no such thing as a "chr*stian religion." It's a never-ending maze of conflicting and mutually exclusive theologies and traditions.

15 posted on 10/07/2010 3:40:50 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofekh dam ha'adam, ba'adam damo yishshafekh; ki betzelem 'Eloqim `asah 'et-ha'adam.)
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To: papabrody

“Sure you are not talking about the NT.”

I haven’t ever read it close enough to opine, so no.

The little I saw seemed INTERNALLY consistent (as opposed to necessarily EXTERNALLY consistent) and was a very fair expression of the Hillel school of thought — very moral.

I won’t pick on it, as they are a fine people when they follow that text.

This is a direct contrast to muslims, and to compare the two is very unfair.


16 posted on 10/07/2010 6:50:16 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Not sure. I think you can rent it for a term.

It is a mitzvah to not give away land of Israel in fee simple, however.


17 posted on 10/07/2010 6:51:20 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SJackson

Give me a break. Do Sheikhs or Imams ever visit vandalized synagogues? Do they bring Torahs? What a joke.


18 posted on 10/07/2010 8:03:31 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: papabrody
ROFL!!!!

I just love freedom of speech ...

19 posted on 10/07/2010 8:05:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lowbridge

No. The rabbis are not trying to get eaten last. They’re trying to appeal to a broader humanitarianism. It’s stupid, since they’ll only get more hatred for the gesture, but it’s not cowardly.


20 posted on 10/07/2010 8:06:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Palestinians cheered the rabbis as they arrived in Beit Fajjar in atmor-plated cars accompanied by Israeli soldiers.

“Our goal is to share our horror at the attack of the mosque and to clearly state that this is not the way of the Torah or the Jewish way,” said Rabbi Shlomo Brin of the Yeshivat Har Etzion.

The governor of Bethlehem, Abdel Fatah Hamayel, said: “We welcome the Jews to Beit Fajjar so they can see with their own eyes the crime that was committed in this mosque, which was against humanity and against religion.”

Speaking on Voice of Israel radio, a leading nationalist rabbi, Elyakim Levanon, condemned the desecration of the mosque.

“I do not justify and I totally condemn these activities,” said Rabbi Levanon, adding that police searching for the attackers should be just as diligent in tracking down Arabs who attack Jews.

He said attacking a mosque “is not the Jewish way” and pointed out that there is no conclusive evidence yet as to whether Jews were involved.”

How do you say “useful idiots” in Arabic?

“This act does nothing for the settlements; it is morally and religiously wrong and is offensive to its core,” he added. “This is not how we educated our children. Islam is not a hostile religion even if we have a dispute with some of its followers.”

How do you say, “aw, come on. I’m gonna barf” in Arabic?


21 posted on 10/07/2010 8:12:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: SJackson

http://www.haaretz.com/news/eight-killed-when-terrorist-opens-fire-in-library-at-jerusalem-yeshiva-1.240777

Moslem clerics must have been too busy that week to visit or condemn that attack.


22 posted on 10/07/2010 6:49:52 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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