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[Ann Coulter] NOT YOUR AVERAGE JOE (R.I.P., Joseph Sobran)
AnnCoulter.com ^ | October 6, 2010 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 10/06/2010 3:03:36 PM PDT by RonDog

   

NOT YOUR AVERAGE JOE
by Ann Coulter
October 6, 2010

My friend Joe Sobran died last Thursday, and the world lost its greatest writer.

To my delight, some obituaries noted that he had influenced my writing style. I only wish I had known he was so close to the end so I could have seen him again to let him influence me some more.

The G.K. Chesterton of our time, Joe could deliver a knockout punch with a single line. Many of his aphorisms were so catchy that everyone repeats them now without realizing their provenance.

It was Joe who came up with the apocryphal New York Times headline: "New York Destroyed by Earthquake; Women and Minorities Hit Hardest."

Joe created the phrase "strange new respect" to describe the sudden warm admiration the media have for any conservative who becomes a liberal.

In the '80s, Bill Buckley suggested that AIDS sufferers be required to get tattoos on their buttocks to protect other gays. As all hell broke loose over his proposal, Sobran simply suggested that it might borrow from Dante: "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

I've recently been telling a friend who talked me into agreeing to an interview with the Times that I wouldn't be mad at him no matter what the Times does to me because "your enemies can never hurt you, only your friends can." I remember now that it was Sobran who told me that, years ago, in reference to his treatment by Buckley.

Ironically perhaps, I've often used a Sobran observation to explain why I have a greater affinity to Israel than to the Muslim world after 9/11: Watching a death-match fight on Animal Planet once, Joe said he found himself instinctively rooting for the mammal over the reptile.

Joe was comically immune to group-think. Every Christian should be, but with Joe it was nearly pathological.

A Shakespeare expert, Joe became convinced that the real author was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford. Among his vast trove of evidence were the sonnets, some of which clearly expressed love for another man.

When Joe was writing what became "Alias Shakespeare," he used to tell me he was going to title the book: "He's Here, He's Queer, He's Edward de Vere!"

Reading through some of his columns after he died and being reminded of what an eloquent writer Joe was, I realized that the best tribute would be to quote him extensively.

As Joe himself said: "I note that my enemies have written a great deal about me, yet they rarely quote me directly. Why not? If I am so disreputable myself, I must at least occasionally say disreputable things. Is it possible that what I say is more cogent than they like to admit?"

Joe's quotes are much better when you're reading his columns and a beautifully turned phrase sneaks up on you, but here are a few good ones, even in isolation:
click here for the REST of Ann's column this week


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; conservatives; coulter; josephsobran; paleocons; sobran; tribute
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Syncro is currently away from the Internet, so he asked me to post Ann's column this week.

I hope that Ann lives long enough to write MY obituary, someday.

1 posted on 10/06/2010 3:03:36 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

The link comes back to this post.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 3:20:49 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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Ooops!

Here is the CORRECT link:

click here for the REST of Ann's column this week

3 posted on 10/06/2010 3:20:55 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

His most current piece from his website. RIP.

http://www.sobran.com/columns/index.shtml


4 posted on 10/06/2010 3:21:16 PM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: Syncro; jellybean; knews_hound; Ann Coulter

ping


5 posted on 10/06/2010 3:22:12 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
From anncoulter.com:
...After I made some point to Joe once, he paid me a compliment that describes exactly why it was so fun to be around him. He said, "Your mind is always going."

His body is gone, but I'm sure his mind is still going like gangbusters.

And I'm insanely jealous that he's giving God all the good belly laughs now. - Ann Coulter


6 posted on 10/06/2010 3:29:30 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog; Syncro

Syncro is still up north in Alaska?

I’m glad Ann included Sobran’s description of Clinton, because I don’t recall reading it and it’s a delight!

Slow posting. Sorry if this posts twice (or more).


7 posted on 10/06/2010 3:34:30 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: SJackson; Borges; Zionist Conspirator; wideawake

Sobran, again.


8 posted on 10/06/2010 3:46:36 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: RonDog

I didn’t know Joe Sobran had died. He was a terrifically sharp writer, a real pleasure to read.

Rest in peace, bud.


10 posted on 10/06/2010 3:52:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead.)
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To: Ann Coulter
His body is gone, but I'm sure his mind is still going like gangbusters.

And I'm insanely jealous that he's giving God all the good belly laughs now. - Ann Coulter

From a happier time, here is a nice picture of Ann enjoying a "good belly laugh" --
-- perhpas recalling something funny that her friend Joe Sobran wrote:


11 posted on 10/06/2010 3:54:36 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: All
I hope that Ann lives long enough to write MY obituary, someday.
Among her many gifts, Ann is the MASTER of the heartfelt obituary.

For those of you who did not know this, check out these powerful eulogies, from her archives:

April 22, 2009 - NELL HUSBANDS MARTIN COULTER - her mother

January 9, 2008 - JOHN VINCENT COULTER - her father

March 18, 2009 - SILVER'S BRAVERY NOT AN ACT - actor/friend Ron Silver

February 27, 2008 - WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY: R.I.P., ENFANT TERRIBLE


13 posted on 10/06/2010 4:48:34 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: EveningStar

He has his fans


14 posted on 10/06/2010 4:51:54 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: onyx
I’m glad Ann included Sobran’s description of Clinton, because I don’t recall reading it and it’s a delight!
That would be, from anncoulter.com:
-- On Clinton:
"Once again, his defenders, furiously attacking the prosecution and equating opposition with 'conspiracy,' don't dare mount the best defense: 'He's not that sort of man.'

It's because Clinton is, supremely, 'that sort of man' that this whole thing has happened.

He's a lying lecher, a prevaricating pervert, an utterly slimy crook, without a trace of honor or loyalty, desperately trying to save his own skin one last time."

ZING!

I guess that I should have been reading Joseph Sobran more often than I did.

15 posted on 10/06/2010 5:12:48 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Tax-chick; RonDog
Here's the rest of the column:

-- On our democracy: "Your chances of meeting an IRS agent are far greater than your chances of meeting anyone you voted for."

-- On Clinton: "Once again, his defenders, furiously attacking the prosecution and equating opposition with 'conspiracy,' don't dare mount the best defense: 'He's not that sort of man.' It's because Clinton is, supremely, 'that sort of man' that this whole thing has happened. He's a lying lecher, a prevaricating pervert, an utterly slimy crook, without a trace of honor or loyalty, desperately trying to save his own skin one last time."

-- On big government: "Freedom has ceased to be a birthright; it has come to mean whatever we are still permitted to do."

-- On Obama: "Nor has he said anything memorable -- not even a single aphorism over this long campaign. And the title of his book 'The Audacity of Hope' -- what on earth does that mean? He is always hinting at a substance that is never disclosed to us. He seems to live by raising vague aspirations he never fulfills."

-- On Buckley's book "In Search of Anti-Semitism": "Its real message is not that we should like or respect Jews; only that we should try not to hate them. But this implies that anti-Semitism is the natural reaction to them: If it's a universal sin, after all, it must be a universal temptation. ... When he defends Jews, I sometimes feel like saying: 'Bill! Bill! It's all right! They're not that bad!'"

-- On evolution: "If our furry and scaly friends were still evolving, none of them appeared to be gaining on us."

-- On Canada banning Dr. Laura: "Canada has to protect itself against such pernicious, hate-filled American notions as the Law of Moses. If Dr. Laura wants to spew the Ten Commandments, let her do it in her own country."

After I made some point to Joe once, he paid me a compliment that describes exactly why it was so fun to be around him. He said, "Your mind is always going."

His body is gone, but I'm sure his mind is still going like gangbusters. And I'm insanely jealous that he's giving God all the good belly laughs now.

17 posted on 10/06/2010 5:22:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (We've gone from teaching Latin in high school to teaching Remedial English in college. -- J. Sobran)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Why else would he make speeches before the "Council of Conservative Citizens"

And Ann Coulter is gay.

18 posted on 10/06/2010 5:32:35 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks!

See also, from anncoulter.com:

QUOTATIONS FROM CHAIRMAN ANN
September 28, 2012, 3:56 PM

I'M ON TWITTER! - Follow AnnCoulter on Twitter

www.twitter.com/AnnCoulter

19 posted on 10/06/2010 5:42:16 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
"I hope that Ann lives long enough to write MY obituary, someday."

I hope Ann lives long to write President Obama's Obituary, and that I get to read the piece.

I also hope Obama lives to be 100!

20 posted on 10/06/2010 5:52:08 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Zionist Conspirator

>>>That’s ironic, all right, seeing as how Sobran hated Israel and evidently blamed it for everything wrong with the world

As a supporter of Israel, I believe that Sobran’s criticisms of Israel were wrong.

But, occasionally, Sobran had some nice things to say about Jews. Bill Buckley wrote a book in 1992 opposing anti-semitism. But it was written in a PC manner, that was similar to the appeals we have today on the need to oppose Koran burning. Coulter’s column quotes Sobran’s reaction to the book:

“......On Buckley’s book “In Search of Anti-Semitism”: “Its real message is not that we should like or respect Jews; only that we should try not to hate them. But this implies that anti-Semitism is the natural reaction to them: If it’s a universal sin, after all, it must be a universal temptation. ... When he defends Jews, I sometimes feel like saying: ‘Bill! Bill! It’s all right! They’re not that bad!’”.......”

Sobran’s residual popularity among many social conservatives, stems from his passionate opposition to abortion. He made the pro-life case more effectively than any conservative intellectual in American history. In 1983, he wrote a collection of essays in opposition to abortion, titled: “Single Issues: Essays on the Crucial Social Questions – Human Life Press – 1983”


21 posted on 10/06/2010 5:56:47 PM PDT by pinochet
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
...Ann Coulter is gay.
You forgot the "/sarc" tag.

See also, THIS review of Ann's recent appearance at Homocon:

HomoCon Aftermath: Joseph Farah Owes Ann Coulter a Major Apology
2010 September 29
by Calvin Freiburger

-- snip --

...Well, the speech that will live in infamy has come and gone, and I hate to say I told you so...

...but it turns out that our Conservative Chessboard Queen did exactly what any reasonable person familiar with her record should have been able to predict: she laid out the natural common ground conservatives and gays ought to share, while unapologetically making the case for preserving traditional marriage...

Click here for more

23 posted on 10/06/2010 6:03:01 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: pinochet
As a supporter of Israel, I believe that Sobran’s criticisms of Israel were wrong.

-- snip --

Sobran’s residual popularity among many social conservatives, stems from his passionate opposition to abortion.

I agree with you on both points.

It is becoming increasingly frustrating for me to discover that people whose opinions I REALLY respect -- like Sobran on abortion -- can be so COMPLETELY wrong on so many OTHER issues that are also very inportant to me -- like his positions on Israel.

25 posted on 10/06/2010 6:08:52 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Dacus943
Speaking of Obama, from anncoulter.com:
QUOTATIONS FROM CHAIRMAN ANN
October 5, 2010, 10:08 PM
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT ... - VIDEO: Ann Coulter on O'Reilly, 10/4/10

One Nation Rally:
"The last 10,000 people who still support Obama"

Note: This one one of the OVER TWO HUNDRED videos of Ann now posted at:

AnnTV
on
PopModal.com



26 posted on 10/06/2010 7:11:44 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Syncro; carlo3b; stanz; gakrak; massfreeper; hosepipe; Donald Rumsfeld Fan; MadLibDisease; fffff; ..

Let me know if you'd like to be added to the Ann Coulter ping list.

27 posted on 10/06/2010 9:12:37 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: RonDog

The irony is that Sobran’s antisemitism pushed him into conspiracy theories. Sad.


28 posted on 10/06/2010 9:36:06 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: RonDog
I didn't think it was necessary.

But then sense of humor at FR on some subjects is so microsopically small that I hereby belatedly apply the tag ...

/sarc

29 posted on 10/06/2010 10:57:49 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

:o)


30 posted on 10/07/2010 12:28:34 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: rmlew

I guess that we’re all human. Too bad.


31 posted on 10/07/2010 12:29:54 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog


32 posted on 10/07/2010 12:57:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: RonDog

Thanks RonDog!


33 posted on 10/07/2010 1:04:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: RonDog
In the '80s, Bill Buckley suggested that AIDS sufferers be required to get tattoos on their buttocks to protect other gays. As all hell broke loose over his proposal, Sobran simply suggested that it might borrow from Dante: "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

LOL!

Ironically perhaps, I've often used a Sobran observation to explain why I have a greater affinity to Israel than to the Muslim world after 9/11: Watching a death-match fight on Animal Planet once, Joe said he found himself instinctively rooting for the mammal over the reptile.

Bingo! I'll have to look up Sobran's writings.

34 posted on 10/07/2010 1:14:43 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

;)


35 posted on 10/07/2010 1:57:46 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Rummyfan; Mrs. Don-o

Years back, there was an exchange between Sobran and Charlton Heston about the authorship of Shakespeare’s plays. It was one of the great moments of the “National Review.”

Ahhh, the days when that was a good magazine, and the “Southern Partisan” was still publishing, and “American Spectator” was in the big newsprint folio, perfect for two catz to nap upon ...


36 posted on 10/07/2010 5:11:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: RonDog; Syncro

Thanks for filling in for Syncro.


37 posted on 10/07/2010 6:52:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: jellybean

Another great column by Ann, celebrating Joseph Sobran’s life rather than mourning his death.


38 posted on 10/07/2010 6:53:53 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: TheOldLady

You’re welcome!


39 posted on 10/07/2010 6:56:44 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
My friend Joe Sobran died last Thursday, and the world lost its greatest writer.

Oh! First I've heard of this. I remember reading him years and years ago, when I got National Review.

Joe Sobran, The Reluctant Anarchist.

40 posted on 10/07/2010 8:37:09 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("evangelicals don't know Torah well enough to be theonomists." --D. G. Hart)
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To: EveningStar
What a despicable low life thing to do, ping Sobran enemies to this eulogy to spit on his grave. Not only once but THREE times.

But that's your MO, let people with at the very least a modicum of intelligence comment while you have nothing to say and watch them get banned if and when they go too far.

Hopfully they will eventually see that you use them because you have no skills to do your own dirty work

Your threat of having me run over by a train is not forgotten either.

I'm not going to go any further on this thread (It's about celebrating the life of the deceased) but your anti-freeper support here at FR is legion.

41 posted on 10/07/2010 10:09:09 AM PDT by Syncro (Evening Star Supports Anti-Freepers)
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To: RonDog

Thanks Ron and mine too!


42 posted on 10/07/2010 10:09:56 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: Syncro; onyx
Welcome back!
So, how was Alaska? :o)

43 posted on 10/07/2010 10:13:01 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
It was great!

We had a packed news conference, lots of media

Plus the RadioThon that evening brought in over $30,000 to help Joe Miller.

And one FR member gave $500!

We Take on Lisa Murkowski in 1.5 Hours! "No Means No, Lisa" RadioThon *LIVE THREAD* ^
 
10/04/2010 5:50:44 PM PDT · by Syncro

44 posted on 10/07/2010 10:33:57 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: jessduntno

Thanks for posting that link jessduntno!


45 posted on 10/07/2010 10:35:35 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: onyx
I got back last nite, thanks for the bump onyx!

I was flying all day yesterday, three flights.

Oh, and the TSA were hilariously ineffective in their checking for danger. I'll have to post that story later on another thread

Yea, nailed Clinton didn't he?

46 posted on 10/07/2010 10:39:27 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks for the post TaxChick!


47 posted on 10/07/2010 10:40:44 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: Syncro

You’re welcome. I don’t have to agree with everything a writer has produced to think he was talented and worth reading.


48 posted on 10/07/2010 10:54:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: Rummyfan

Great pics, thanks Rummyfan!


49 posted on 10/07/2010 11:03:07 AM PDT by Syncro (Tea Party Express IV: Liberty At the Ballot Box! Oct 18th - Nov 1st.)
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To: Syncro

Oh yes, please post a thread about TSA.
I’m happy to hear you’e back!


50 posted on 10/07/2010 12:45:01 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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