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New Drunk driving classication,(we are all guilty!)
Austin American Statesman ^ | 10/06/10 | Mike Ward

Posted on 10/06/2010 7:44:45 PM PDT by only the truth

A campaign to create a new category of driving while intoxicated is being promoted at the Capitol as one way to curb growing problems in Texas' system of punishing drunken drivers.

Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo, among the supporters of the change, said the idea behind a new offense of "driving while ability impaired" — DWAI — would cover drivers whose blood-alcohol content is between 0.05 and 0.07

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KEYWORDS: drugwar; dui; dwi; freedom; madd; nannystate; neoprohibition; revenuetickets; texas; wod
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1 posted on 10/06/2010 7:44:50 PM PDT by only the truth
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To: only the truth

european idiocy.

I think it’s already been proven cellphones are more dangerous than alcohol.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 7:49:22 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: only the truth
Hmmmm. If this comes to CA I'm going to be in big trouble after going to Champagne Brunch.
3 posted on 10/06/2010 7:49:32 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: only the truth

Did you really think we want those laws observed? said Dr. Ferris. We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be
much easier to deal with. (’Atlas Shrugged’ 1957)


4 posted on 10/06/2010 7:50:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mamelukesabre

I don’t agree. Cell phones do not cause accidents. Stupid people who think they can text and drive at the same time cause accidents.


5 posted on 10/06/2010 7:50:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: only the truth

Prohibition in a new guise.


6 posted on 10/06/2010 7:50:45 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: only the truth

Not many cops are out at night, you can’t get the killer drivers with the .20 & .30 if all of the patrolmen are at the station drinking coffee, staying out of the cold and booking .05 sober people.


7 posted on 10/06/2010 7:51:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: only the truth

Will this include testing all government employees during any car stop for any reason! If so, sounds like a good idea.

Seems they are not satisfied with the original premise of decreasing supposed drunk driving, and now are willing to lower the BAC just to keep up their statistics, revenue stream and persecution of citizenry.


8 posted on 10/06/2010 7:54:44 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about their misdirection!)
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To: only the truth

I think we ought to have a few driving codes for police.

Driving While Fat Bastard

Driving While Shooting In the Car

Driving While Stuffing Face with Food and Drink

Driving While Using Sirens and Lights for Non-Emergencies just to get through an intersection cause I don’t want to wait

Any cops that drive around in a vehicle that has headlights/taillights out fine the officer double. He should take his own advice he gives to citizens to check the vehicle out before driving it.

the arrogance and big brotherish mentality of these guys has to end. How many cops would be corraled by this after hours coming home from a bar? Oh, that’s Ted, he’s a cop, don’t give him a ticket.


9 posted on 10/06/2010 7:55:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: only the truth

Cops want more business. It is a union thing.


10 posted on 10/06/2010 7:56:27 PM PDT by microgood
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To: mylife

Brilliantly stated. Just look at the IRS laws. Everyone can be found out to be a criminal.


11 posted on 10/06/2010 7:56:58 PM PDT by stevio (Freedom! -NRA)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Are you suggesting there is a double standard? /s


12 posted on 10/06/2010 7:57:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mamelukesabre

Having recently been T-Boned by a woman who was texting while driving, I would certainly agree.


13 posted on 10/06/2010 7:57:39 PM PDT by shibumi (Wily Pablo loves Flank Steak Tacos)
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To: SoldierDad

Well of course it’s the people. But it’s the thing they are attempting to use while driving that screws things up. If they weren’t able to use it they wouldn’t be distracted.

I say let people use them but if they get into accidents they greatly mulptiply and fines and penalties. Like at least ten-fold. More if someone dies because of them.


14 posted on 10/06/2010 7:57:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: only the truth

Now they are trying to destroy the restaurant and bar industries.


15 posted on 10/06/2010 7:58:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: mylife

I am saying there is a ‘brotherhood’ of police officers. AS one who had cops in my family.


16 posted on 10/06/2010 7:58:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: stevio

Look at the trend in laws in general.

They have the entire country sectioned off.
You cant make a move without potentially stepping in trouble.


17 posted on 10/06/2010 7:58:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: only the truth
n his written testimony, Acevedo said he thinks the changes would make it easier to process and convict drunk drivers

The reason?

18 posted on 10/06/2010 7:59:03 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: ansel12

I guess you’ve never been stopped at a road block before?


19 posted on 10/06/2010 7:59:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: mylife

Reckless Endangerment is my cover all law of choice.


20 posted on 10/06/2010 7:59:17 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: only the truth

MADD
Mothers Against Drunk Driver.

DAMM
Drunks Against Mad Mothers


21 posted on 10/06/2010 7:59:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: ntmxx
Seems they are not satisfied with the original premise of decreasing supposed drunk driving, and now are willing to lower the BAC just to keep up their statistics, revenue stream and persecution of citizenry.

Some people warned that this was the real premise all along and were laughed off as conspiracy nuts.

22 posted on 10/06/2010 7:59:53 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: only the truth

I’d like to know what the normal blood alcohol level is. I doubt that it gets to absolute zero. It is possible that we are getting into a range that will be triggered by a number of other chemicals, already in the blood stream.


23 posted on 10/06/2010 8:00:42 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Squantos

We have enough damn laws on the books.
This stuff is designed to just ensnare people for BS.


24 posted on 10/06/2010 8:01:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: shibumi
Having recently been T-Boned by a woman who was texting while driving...

Wow, what was that like? If it does not bring back too bad of memories, can you describe it for us? Do you remember much of the impact and afterwards? What kind of car were you driving and how did it hold up?

Hope I am not being nosey but I always wondered. Thanks.

25 posted on 10/06/2010 8:02:01 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: George from New England

Like Mouthwash?


26 posted on 10/06/2010 8:03:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: only the truth
Born in Havana, Cuba, Acevedo migrated to the United States with his family in 1968 in search of freedom and the opportunities to be found in America. He grew up in California, and earned his Bachelor of Science degree, with departmental honors, in Public Administration from the University of La Verne.

Maybe he should move back to Cuba.

27 posted on 10/06/2010 8:03:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: Rebelbase

So everyone can be on gov’t food programs to have “healthy” diets. In reality, stand in line at the party approved store to get (hopefully) your bread ration.


28 posted on 10/06/2010 8:04:11 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I can understand where you’re coming from. However, one little potential wrinkle - what if a person who gets into an accident that some LEO misidentifies the cause as being from distracted driving due to a phone (the phone is found on the seat next to the driver and it is assumed that was the cause)? LEA’s are driven by revenue generating situations, right? How does the person who is wrongfully accused of this defend themselves? There must be some parameters for when someone can be charged with distracted driving due to a cell phone or other item. That’s my 2 cents anyway.


29 posted on 10/06/2010 8:04:36 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: mylife

DWWA...driving while wearing aftershave.


30 posted on 10/06/2010 8:04:43 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: only the truth

If true, this country is becoming fascist. And the cops were a bit draconian already.


31 posted on 10/06/2010 8:05:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: only the truth

If true, this country is becoming fascist. And the cops were a bit draconian already.


32 posted on 10/06/2010 8:05:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: George from New England
"Just out of curiosity...I’d like to know what the normal blood alcohol level is. I doubt that it gets to absolute zero. It is possible that we are getting into a range that will be triggered by a number of other chemicals, already in the blood stream?"


33 posted on 10/06/2010 8:06:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SoldierDad

I don’t know if it’s universally true, but my cheap li’l cell phone logs the time and date of incoming/outgoing calls and texts. Defense Exhibit A, your honor...


34 posted on 10/06/2010 8:07:25 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Good video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIPoPw9zgvQ&feature=player_embedded)
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To: seowulf

They took Hai Karate off the market for a reason LoL


35 posted on 10/06/2010 8:08:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mamelukesabre

Not mentioned is MADD, which is HQ’d in DFW. They have become another liberal political organization that has grown beyond their original purpose and want to regulate our lives, via back door prohibition. I would not be surprised if they are involved behind the scenes.


36 posted on 10/06/2010 8:08:54 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Rebelbase
It will decimate the hospitality industry, these paragraphs say it all - enough to scare any light drinker to just order delivery pizza instead of venturing out on the town and have a beer or two with a meal.

Acevedo agreed. He noted that one person may drive dangerously at the 0.08 level — the nationally accepted standard for being drunk — while others "may be at 0.05 or 0.06. It depends on the person."

"People sometimes focus on how many drinks they can have before they'll go to jail," Acevedo said. "It varies. A person may be intoxicated at 0.05, and you don't want them out driving."

37 posted on 10/06/2010 8:10:59 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: mylife
Here's a little tool you can use to determine BAC levels.
38 posted on 10/06/2010 8:11:10 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Rebelbase

No I haven’t, what is the relevance to most DWI’s and what I said?


39 posted on 10/06/2010 8:11:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: George from New England

You can drink Coca Cola and get a reading.


40 posted on 10/06/2010 8:11:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

It was a relatively low-speed collision.

I was driving a ‘92 Dodge Dakota mid-size pick-up and had stopped at a four-way. The other car was approaching, but appeared to be slowing down for the sign, so I went through.

As I got to the middle of the intersection, I looked left, and saw her looking at her phone and texting with one hand. She completely missed the stop and hit my truck square in the middle of the bed, flattening the left side tire, bending the rim and screwing up the rear end.

Surprisingly, the sheet metal damage was minimal.

I’m OK now, but I did miss a day of work. I had the shakes really bad for a while. I probably hurt my lower back, but it’s so screwed up anyway, that it’s hard to tell how much is from the accident.

I’ve had worse, but in a smaller vehicle I probably would have had far greater injuries.


41 posted on 10/06/2010 8:12:04 PM PDT by shibumi (Wily Pablo loves Flank Steak Tacos)
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To: Rebelbase

They really are. You can’t even go out for dinner and a glass of wine anymore.


42 posted on 10/06/2010 8:12:18 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Instead of building a grand mosque at Ground Zero, let's build a Ground Zero at their Grand Mosque.)
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To: mylife

My point exactly....thus one that covers all acts of ignorance.

And remember....ignorance of the law is “still” no excuse !

This new impaired law is revenue based (duh) an driven by the money mongers in Austin.

But this means yer prescription or OTC meds can get ya busted as well.

Yer right...all BS !


43 posted on 10/06/2010 8:12:24 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: mylife
It is possible that we are getting into a range that will be triggered by a number of other chemicals, already in the blood stream?"

Pineapple juice!

44 posted on 10/06/2010 8:13:01 PM PDT by TChad
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To: only the truth

I don’t think it’s right to get a DUI after a single beer or something, but, just anecdotally I recently heard about a female friend who used to enjoy a Grey Goose on the rocks. She has dropped a lot of weight, and apparently got totally hammered by one when she tried it lately. Luckily she was not the driver at the time, since it was completely unexpected.


45 posted on 10/06/2010 8:13:32 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: mylife
"Freedom has ceased to be a birthright; it has come to mean whatever we are still permitted to do."

Just read that tonight on Ann Coulter's column sourced to Joe Sobran.

46 posted on 10/06/2010 8:14:11 PM PDT by parisa
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To: only the truth

Rather than advocating for even more onerous oppresive laws that criminalize even more aspects of American lives I say start reducing some of the hundreds and maybe even thousands of nuisance criminal laws and get out of our every day lives. Forget the nanny state, we are fast turning into a totalitarian state.


47 posted on 10/06/2010 8:14:17 PM PDT by Ron H. (Impeach Hussein Obama before he can declare himself dictator!)
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To: SoldierDad; shibumi; mamelukesabre

” How does the person who is wrongfully accused of this [phone use while driving] defend themselves? “

Phone logs.

PS

“Having recently been T-Boned by a woman who was texting while driving, I would certainly agree.”

Having had my father murdered by a repeat drunk-driver who was later sentenced to all of 3 years, I would be happy leaving the limit at .08 if they would increase the penalty to life without parole for vehicular manslaughter, with the death penalty for those convicted of VH who are repeat DUI.


48 posted on 10/06/2010 8:16:42 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: shibumi; gunsequalfreedom

...did the acident report show that she was texting?...I would think that would be hard to prove unless she admitted it to the cop...just wondering...texting drivers are just another form of DWI in my book.


49 posted on 10/06/2010 8:16:47 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

I heard an idiot from MADD the other day in Dallas that is trying to get legislation passed to have all cars have a breathalyzer interlock on all cars.

It wont let you in unless you ‘blow before you go’

Brilliant. Add to the cost of everyone’s car with an expensive device that could be overridden with something a basic as a pocket bellows.


50 posted on 10/06/2010 8:17:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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