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Pakistan urges Taliban to step up attacks on Afghans, NATO
Long War Journal ^ | October 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Bill Roggio

Posted on 10/06/2010 9:57:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

For the second night in a row, The Wall Street Journal has the story on US officials' mounting frustration with Pakistan. According to the WSJ, US defense and intelligence officials and even Taliban commanders are now saying that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence directorate is urging the Taliban to step up the violence in Afghanistan:

Members of Pakistan's spy agency are pressing Taliban field commanders to fight the U.S. and its allies in Afghanistan, some U.S. officials and Afghan militants say, a development that undercuts a key element of the Pentagon's strategy for ending the war.

The explosive accusation is the strongest yet in a series of U.S. criticisms of Pakistan, and shows a deteriorating relationship with an essential ally in the Afghan campaign. The U.S. has provided billions of dollars in military and development aid to Pakistan for its support.

The U.S. and Afghanistan have sought to persuade midlevel Taliban commanders to lay down their weapons in exchange for jobs or cash. The most recent Afghan effort at starting a peace process took place this week in Kabul.

But few Taliban have given up the fight, officials say. Some Taliban commanders and U.S. officials say militant leaders are being pressured by officers from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency not to surrender.

"The ISI wants to arrest commanders who are not obeying [ISI] orders," said a Taliban commander in Kunar province.

U.S. officials say they have heard similar reports from captured militants and those negotiating to lay down their arms.

Read the whole thing. Then read Pakistan's Jihad, written by Thomas Joscelyn and me, back in December 2008. The more things change, the more they stay the same.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; alqaida; globaljihad; isi; islam; jihad; muslims; pakistan; shariahlaw; sharialaw; taleban; taliban

1 posted on 10/06/2010 9:58:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SandRat; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle

ping.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 10:02:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A fence should be put up around Pakistan. No Pakistanis should be allowed to enter the USA from this point forward - would be the most effective Homeland Security measure that we can take.


3 posted on 10/06/2010 10:04:53 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pakistan has been the root cause of the unrest in Afghanistan, and the ISI was the driving force behind the creation of the Taliban.

Pakistan knew it would lose a direct conflict with the U.S., which is the only reason it feigns cooperation.

The ISI needs to be liquidated, one way or another. Eventually the ISI will arrange to have a nuke detonated against our troops in Afghanistan, IMO. I hope I'm wrong, but if it happens while Obama the Coward is in office, we will not retaliate in kind.

4 posted on 10/06/2010 10:05:41 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hitlery Clinton is a failure...needless to say.


5 posted on 10/06/2010 10:13:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

ping.


6 posted on 10/06/2010 10:15:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So glad the idiots in DC have been shovelling billions in military aid down that rat hole...


7 posted on 10/06/2010 10:17:26 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And remember, Pakistan has nucs!


8 posted on 10/06/2010 10:24:42 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And remember, Pakistan has nucs!


9 posted on 10/06/2010 10:24:47 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I heard that from Pashtun mujadeen in the 1990`s -

that Pakistan was behind all the trouble in Afghanistan.

10 posted on 10/06/2010 10:25:41 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But Pock-ee-stahn is our ally. I guess in the same way Stalin was our ally.


11 posted on 10/06/2010 10:26:14 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: Pox

You can only liquidate the ISI by taking out the Pakistani army.


12 posted on 10/06/2010 10:31:39 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And we’re sending them how much in foreign aid every year???


13 posted on 10/06/2010 10:34:18 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"THAT'S POCKEESTAHN...."

- POSOTUS.

14 posted on 10/06/2010 10:38:06 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Remember most of our politicians are a reflection of the public as a whole, so what would you expect. Besides some of them are the dumbest money could buy.


15 posted on 10/06/2010 11:13:39 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obambi is the Taliban’s goatBitch.

Larry Sinclair was right.


16 posted on 10/06/2010 11:26:21 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A smoking hole where Karachi stands today, that might be a prudent event.

And so what if Pakistan has nukes too? Theirs are aimed at India. And they know we could turn their nation into glass with a first strike anyway.


17 posted on 10/06/2010 11:32:10 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe we should send Pakistan another $7 billion. Then they’ll be nice to us. I feel sure of it. /s


18 posted on 10/07/2010 1:46:54 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

John Semmens would be proud of that headline


19 posted on 10/07/2010 1:47:23 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: chilltherats

Plus we should bringing them over here as immigrants.


20 posted on 10/07/2010 2:40:48 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: chilltherats

Plus we should continue bringing them over here as immigrants.


21 posted on 10/07/2010 2:41:36 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Getting just real close to open warfare between the U.S., Paki .....

Notice that Hee-a-Ree is next door in Injia, playing kissyface with the Indians?

Almost time for the Hindu Card. That'll remove the Paki Army, ISI, and Taliban in one great big Swat (so to speak -- pun intentional) ..... payback for Delhi, Bombay .....

Plus a good excuse to push India's growing, ballooning Moo population, plus Pakistan's, all the way to Persia. See if they can survive in the wilds of Gedrosia any better than Alexander's army. I think the Hindus don't need to take any more cr*p off the Moo's. The raggies have killed their full quota of Hindus, and the worm's ready to turn and gorge on Moo flesh for a while.

Unpleasant, but then the ISI/Taliwhackers couldn't leave it alone, could they?

22 posted on 10/07/2010 4:19:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Old Sarge

And we have to assume that China would stand by and watch when the US threatens their largest arms buyer and second oldest strategic ally with a nuclear strike??


23 posted on 10/07/2010 5:12:42 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: PGR88
A fence should be put up around Pakistan. No Pakistanis should be allowed to enter the USA from this point forward - would be the most effective Homeland Security measure that we can take.

Good Idea...but you forgot one thing


24 posted on 10/07/2010 5:15:59 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its a good thing the Paks don’t have nukes and a couple billion $ of our weapons.


25 posted on 10/07/2010 5:30:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DTogo

We are losing this war because of our own stupidity and ignorance. Our politicians are about 80% to blame, 10% the American public, and 10% the military.


26 posted on 10/07/2010 5:40:34 AM PDT by petertare (--. of)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pakistan : Afghanistan :: Iran : Iraq


27 posted on 10/07/2010 5:47:56 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Before I make any comments on these foreign relations issues I need to hear from joe biden, the touted expert in foreign affairs. Also, input from the head of the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, john “I’ve been to viet nam” skerry would be very informative. Lastly, hitlery clintoon should have helpful comments given her penchant for effective foreign relations. We are blessed with such a talented team of leaders in foreign relations. nobama was a genius pulling these talented individuals together on his team. all praise the nobama!


28 posted on 10/07/2010 6:06:28 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Playing for the draw. Obama’s fault.


29 posted on 10/07/2010 6:49:03 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: Pox

“Pakistan has been the root cause of the unrest in Afghanistan, and the ISI was the driving force behind the creation of the Taliban.”

I’ve always insisted that there is no war on terror without eliminating the ISI and the regime in Iran and Hezbollah. The Taliban was directly the result of ISI operations. They are still active in supporting the Taliban with intelligence. They created the Taliban in order to keep Afghanastan destabilized. Their approach is to provide strategic depth in the event of a war with India. I think we should threaten to begin supplying India with advanced weaponry and ballistic technology.


30 posted on 10/07/2010 6:58:11 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All those trillions we have given Pakistan. Our leaders have lied and lied...and our bureaunazis have complied.

Money sure buys a lot of hate.


31 posted on 10/07/2010 7:04:44 AM PDT by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

You forgot the grand wizards: Saudi Arabia and their minions in OPEC.


32 posted on 10/07/2010 7:06:28 AM PDT by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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To: eleni121

I’m speaking of the actual puppetmasters, not their funders.


33 posted on 10/07/2010 7:41:13 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bingo China, another cigar over here.


34 posted on 10/07/2010 7:44:21 AM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Take their nukes. Use their nukes against them.

More rubble, less trouble.

35 posted on 10/07/2010 8:07:09 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Palin Haley O'Donnell - mmm mmmm mmmmmmmmm)
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To: Vaquero
What's with the cane in that silly picture?

Zero isn't lame, or halt (physically, at least) ... why does he need a cane?

36 posted on 10/07/2010 8:09:18 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Almost time for the Hindu Card. That'll remove the Paki Army, ISI, and Taliban in one great big Swat (so to speak -- pun intentional) ..... payback for Delhi, Bombay .....

I've advocated backing an Indian attack on Pakistan. Those duplicitous POS's in Pakistan are NOT our allies.

37 posted on 10/07/2010 8:21:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Stunning how inept and FUBAR this WH has been with regard to Pak. As is the length the MSM is going to hide this reality from the public.


38 posted on 10/07/2010 8:22:59 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: petertare

> Our politicians are about 80% to blame, 10% the American
> public, and 10% the military

Disagree.

The American Public is about %53 to blame because that plurality, give or take some, continue to vote either for gimme pols, or out of ignorance, or out of blind loyalty, or all of the above.

The pols are mostly doing what those who elected them want them to do: redistribute wealth, play nicey-nicey with the MoHamHeads, push Christianity and Judaism out of the public sphere, and grow government.

Military mistakes are just that. Mistakes. However, because the military is becoming politicized with political correctness and all the other swill that goes with it, their effectiveness has been compromised accordingly.


39 posted on 10/07/2010 8:28:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

> Zero isn’t lame, or halt (physically, at least) ... why
> does he need a cane?

Maybe it’s some kind of scepter.


40 posted on 10/07/2010 8:29:49 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: PGR88

We have what 400,000 illegals in this country that Janet says are nice friendly “just lookin for work folks”. A fence around Paki is like closing the barn door after the horse is out”.

Plus Paki is a NUKE Country. THERE is the REAL danger.


41 posted on 10/07/2010 8:32:05 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We should have gone ahead with option #2 when Cheney gave them a choice. At least some Muslims would fear us now.


42 posted on 10/07/2010 8:33:46 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: ArrogantBustard
What's with the cane in that silly picture?
Zero isn't lame, or halt (physically, at least) ... why does he need a cane?

maybe it is a sex toy for Zero and his boytoy?


43 posted on 10/07/2010 8:35:22 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh well then the ISI’s headquarters sounds like the perfect candidate for the use of a few smart bombs.


44 posted on 10/07/2010 8:57:18 AM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s time to start issuing ultimatums to Pakistan. Either they move their resources from India border and take care of Taliban in West or we will. I am talking about full assaults from the air including bombing and missile strikes and strategic ground operations.


45 posted on 10/07/2010 9:44:49 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pretty good summaries on what we have been up against relating to Pakistan. A lot of stuff being echoed from what we read a number of years back at LWJ and other as to how the ISI really is the main culprit in that they keep the terrorist groups save and sound. The recent floods are a great excuse for the Pakistan Army to not go after the key players in the un-federated tribal areas.
Think I'll bookmark the URL's. Lots of good info.
46 posted on 10/07/2010 10:30:49 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: PGR88

“A fence should be put up around Pakistan. No Pakistanis should be allowed to enter the USA from this point forward - would be the most effective Homeland Security measure that we can take.”

Short of the far cheaper route of turning Wiziristan in to glowing glaas rubble.


47 posted on 10/07/2010 5:35:53 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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