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Will Sarah Palin endorsement be Carly Fiorina's albatross?
CS Monitor ^ | 10/6/10 | Amanda Paulson

Posted on 10/06/2010 10:03:09 PM PDT by pissant

Much has been made of Sarah Palin’s impact in elections this year – and whether her endorsement was what made the difference for Joe Miller in Alaska, Christine O’Donnell in Delaware, and numerous other candidates.

But her stamp of approval may not always be a help, especially when it comes to the general election.

A new poll in California found that Ms. Palin is a highly polarizing figure there and that most Californians view her negatively.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: albatross; ca2010; elections; fiorina; palin; sarahpalin
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Too bad DeVore isn't in this race.
1 posted on 10/06/2010 10:03:12 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
The Tea Party(caucus) is getting stronger, and stronger, and stronger..

even in Mexifornia..

2 posted on 10/06/2010 10:07:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Too bad it wasn’t strong enough to get DeVore over the 20% in the primary.

I still think Carly might win. But she’s a target rich environment. And Palin’s support ain’t gonna hurt her.


3 posted on 10/06/2010 10:10:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

“A new poll in California found that Ms. Palin is a highly polarizing figure there and that most Californians view her negatively.”

CA ... polarized? By Sarah Palin? Huh. They paid a pollster to find that out?


4 posted on 10/06/2010 10:11:07 PM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: pissant

Wnhat could possibly make Ms.Plain a “highly polarizing figure
“?

Seriously. Other than the constant hatred spewing from the COmmunists in the media?


5 posted on 10/06/2010 10:11:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: pissant
A new poll in California found that Ms. Palin is a highly polarizing figure there and that most Californians view her negatively.

Considering that marxists control this state from top to bottom, this is surprising in what fashion?

Look who keeps being elected over and over to run the state legislature, city councils, etc, etc.
6 posted on 10/06/2010 10:13:11 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: BenLurkin

CA is the land of fruits and nuts.


7 posted on 10/06/2010 10:13:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
most Californians view her negatively

How about a poll of not "most Californians" but the ones likely to vote in November. I suspect Sarah polls much higher in that group.

8 posted on 10/06/2010 10:14:18 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: pissant

Amanda Paulson’s father is chief executive of Goldman Sachs and her husband is an no-name actor.


9 posted on 10/06/2010 10:17:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pissant

No.

Fiorina running for Senate in a state like California as a Republican is what hurts her. Arnold won but he was a movie star.


10 posted on 10/06/2010 10:19:30 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Too many voters get their “news” from Comedy Central:

How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8


11 posted on 10/06/2010 10:20:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I think you will see some heavily dem districts go GOP. Gunny Pop will beat the marxist Filner in 51. So hopefully races like that will help get Boxer out too.


12 posted on 10/06/2010 10:22:17 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

If Fiorina is smart, she will use Sarah’s endorsement to win.


13 posted on 10/06/2010 10:22:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Neither she nor Whitman will be appearing with Palin on Oct 16 when she goes to Anaheim for a rally.


14 posted on 10/06/2010 10:26:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: hosepipe
Gotta love the push polls that taken to "shape" public opinion, not "sample" public opinion.

Two weeks before the La Raza paid maid via Gloria Allred came onto the scene, Sarah Palin was ahead of Meg Whitman in popularity in CA by a few points, but now I shudder to think how far Meg has fallen.

Governor Palin is More Popular Among California Republicans than Meg Whitman

Favorable/Unfavorable Among California Republicans

Sarah Palin: 74/18

Meg Whitman: 72/18

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So How Does CBS/NY Times Have Palin's Numbers Eleven and Twenty-One Points Lower Nationally than Her Numbers in California and Florida, Respectively?

15 posted on 10/06/2010 10:26:44 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: pissant
DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.You don't live in the state and therefore, are excused for your comments. DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.

Democrats have a nearly 2-1 lead in registration, and most Independents lean left. Irreputable fact. Only in a year like this does someone like Fiorina have a chance, and she still must run a nearly flawless campaign.

Though not socially conservative enough for most here, Campbell would be ahead by 15. His forte is economics, which is exactly the sort of knowledge needed in the Senate at this time in our history. He would have added 75 points to the IQ level of the vanquished Boxer.

16 posted on 10/06/2010 10:29:05 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: onyx

Those are the same numbers the new Field poll mentioned in this piece has for her amongst GOPers


17 posted on 10/06/2010 10:32:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Soul Seeker

The article is propaganda, IMO. They make it sound they are voting for Sarah and not Carly.


18 posted on 10/06/2010 10:32:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: muleskinner

Nope. Watch Gunny Pop beat the pants off Bob Filner in 51


19 posted on 10/06/2010 10:33:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

she is hitting over 50-50

Kali is a tough nut regardless

the state is just so full of minorities and loony crackers..(some in Fresno excluded obviously) but it’s a leftist paradise in urban areas and in the Hemp belt

i don’t blame Palin for the loss but like you I faulted her for endorsing Fiorina over DeVore


20 posted on 10/06/2010 10:35:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: wardaddy

I don’t think Palin is hurting Fiorina at all. She’s helping. But FioRINO avoiding her on her Oct 16 trip out their might be the end of any enthusiasm for Gnarly.


21 posted on 10/06/2010 10:37:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I like DeVore.

But its tough trying to win a state-wide race as a Republican in California. You think, how could we lose?

Then you look around you at the people in line with you at the polling place and you think, we are so screwed.

Palin, no Palin, the problem with California is Californians. Lots of nice people. Lots of clueless ones that can’t balance a budget to save their lives. Keep sending the same people to Sacramento enacting the same policies and keep getting the same disastrous results and can’t figure out why. And they’ll do it all again.

These are the people we are asking to vote Republican.


22 posted on 10/06/2010 10:40:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I think the opposite. It is the CA GOP rank and file that are by and large pre-programmed for RINOs, just like here in WA. A strong, confident REAL conservative would do well in both locations. But the GOP powers that be fight them all the way.


23 posted on 10/06/2010 10:43:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Neither she nor Whitman will be appearing with Palin on Oct 16 when she goes to Anaheim for a rally.

What a couple of cowardly losers...

24 posted on 10/06/2010 10:47:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant

Actually, I don’t disagree with you. A Repub is a tough sell in California but a conservative is not a tougher sell, in fact a “moderate” is a tougher sell because they can’t distinguish themselves clearly enough from the Democrats. A conservative has no choice but to present his case boldly. A moderate is forever trying to downplay the differences and consequently can’t persuade anyone.


25 posted on 10/06/2010 10:54:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: pissant

I don’t think Palin is hurting Fiorina at all. She’s helping. But FioRINO avoiding her on her Oct 16 trip out their might be the end of any enthusiasm for Gnarly.


I agree. If Palin would do two events in large venues,one north and one south, with Carly, she could get the train on the tracks. Carly doesn’t draw the big numbers to her events and she is sort of low key and is probably afraid to bring in Palin. Her supporters are mostly in the “anybody but Boxer” camp.

If Carly wants to win, she will. I just haven’t seen that fire in the belly, the energy, the ability to generate the excitement needed to overpower Boxer. Carly, call Sarah.


26 posted on 10/06/2010 11:10:26 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: pissant
DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.You don't live in the state and therefore, are excused for your comments. DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.

Democrats have a nearly 2-1 lead in registration, and most Independents lean left. Irreputable fact. Only in a year like this does someone like Fiorina have a chance, and she still must run a nearly flawless campaign.

Though not socially conservative enough for most here, Campbell would be ahead by 15. His forte is economics, which is exactly the sort of knowledge needed in the Senate at this time in our history. He would have added 75 points to the IQ level of the vanquished Boxer.

27 posted on 10/06/2010 11:27:59 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Lancey Howard

Let’s face it if all states had the California electorate, the nation would be sunk already. Some want politicians to act like lions in a state where the voters are liberal jerks.


28 posted on 10/06/2010 11:28:22 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: muleskinner; pissant; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; Czar
DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.You don't live in the state and therefore, are excused for your comments.

Well, I live here. And based on the results of prior elections, such as Simon and Herschenson, DeVore most definitely could win here.

Heck even in the Recall, McClintock/Arnold took 70% of the vote -- and that is when Arnold was running on a conservative platform. Conservatism sells. RINO middle-mush does not.

The problem is, the RINO squishes running the GOP in California won't LET a conservative get on the ballot. They went out and wooed Carly and Meg to run. Then they send out their minions to promote the "they can't win" mantra in regards to any conservative.

There is only one reason conservatives don't win in California: their own party apparatus won't lift a finger to put them on the ballot. (And if they get there on their own, they stab them in the back and sabotage their campaign).

29 posted on 10/07/2010 1:34:16 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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asshole alert...it isn't MS it MRS. jerk


30 posted on 10/07/2010 3:39:49 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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Pissant, was this antiPalin poll by Mitt Romney or Ron Paul?


31 posted on 10/07/2010 4:41:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: muleskinner
DeVore, who could get elected in many states, has no chance here.

It wasn't that long ago that this State nearly elected Bill Simon after an incompetent campaign with his own party stabbing him in the back. Since then, what remained of the conservative GOTV ground game has been completely disassembled. The CAGOP doesn't want us even trying; they think they can buy the offices they actually seek.

Only in a year like this does someone like Fiorina have a chance, and she still must run a nearly flawless campaign.

RINOs get no enthusiasm from the people who used to do all the footwork. The last time you saw that energy was the recall and Prop 8. Both won.

Though not socially conservative enough for most here, Campbell would be ahead by 15. His forte is economics, which is exactly the sort of knowledge needed in the Senate at this time in our history. He would have added 75 points to the IQ level of the vanquished Boxer.

Unlike many here, I actually like Tom personally. Although he thinks he knows a lot about economics, he has no concept for why his social preferences are so terribly costly to State government. His thinking is compartmentalized and he is easily misled (especially in matters of foreign policy). Both he and Fiorina are unrepentant globalists. Either one is especially bad in the Senate.

32 posted on 10/07/2010 6:33:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The power to manage "The Environment" is the power to control the entire economy.)
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No.
33 posted on 10/07/2010 6:43:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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[ A new poll in California found that Ms. Palin is a highly polarizing figure there and that most Californians view her negatively. ]

Many Californians are illegal aliens from several eras.. including the current one.. Most/many see themselves as not Americans but Mexicans.. They are proud of the toilet they hail from.. I was raised there(calif.).. and its much worse than when I was a kid.. At least then most/many wanted to be Americans and Mexicans at the same time.. a serious confusion..

Mexico has always been under Mob Rule.. by mobsters..
Mexico has never had a real government but merely one Mob or another..
Mexicans view this as NORMAL... then and now..

They are sympatico with democrats who are in the same state(of mind)..

34 posted on 10/07/2010 7:20:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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Fiorina would NOT have gained the GOP nomination without the Palin endorsement.


35 posted on 10/07/2010 11:45:42 AM PDT by techno
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DeVore’s hissy fit and unmanly, immature response to Palin’s endorsement of Fiorina told me all I need to know about him.

Grow up, Chuck.

Then try running again.


36 posted on 10/07/2010 11:47:54 AM PDT by hrh40
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To: pissant

Your PDS needs treatment.


37 posted on 10/07/2010 11:48:37 AM PDT by McGruff (I Love the Smell of Desperation in the Morning. Smells like Victory!)
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To: McGruff

Considering I disagree with the premise of this author, you might want to check you PDS (Palin Deification Syndrome) instead.


38 posted on 10/07/2010 12:13:38 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: techno

Don’t remind me.


39 posted on 10/07/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

If Fiorina wins and it is perceived that Sarah Palin helped achieve it that should really shake up the libs.


40 posted on 10/07/2010 12:46:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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To: hrh40

What “hissy fit”?

Chuck was gentlemanly and restrained considering the crap Fiorina did to him. Filing phony ethics charges against him with the state FPPC. Challenging his record as a reservist and implying he lied about his record, making fun of him during the debates — claiming she had all the conservative support and he was “dog-paddling.”

And despite all of her BS, DeVore had only nice things to say in his concession speech.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2530662/posts

Please tell me what you think was “unmanly” and “immature.”


41 posted on 10/07/2010 1:37:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl
"There is only one reason conservatives don't win in California: their own party apparatus won't lift a finger to put them on the ballot. (And if they get there on their own, they stab them in the back and sabotage their campaign)."

By now, this should have become as plain as the ass on a goat except, of course, to the Big Tent RINO Central (RNC/NRCC/NRSC) Rockefeller Republican contingent on FR. They just keep getting sucked in to vote for the "R" no matter what because of the "just win, baby" mantra of the CAGOP and the rest of the establishment GOP. They just keep yanking on that "least worst" lever.

42 posted on 10/07/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: pissant

Caifornia is a basket case of the first order, billions in debt, overrun by violent illegals/gangs, a dead end for private business, and about to return Jerry Brown (!!) to the state house. It’s in freefall. There’s nothing there for Sarah Palin to gain one way or the other—no Republican could possibly win there in 2012 anyway. And Fiorina isn’t going anywhere—she’s the weak “Democrat” in a two-Democrat race.


43 posted on 10/07/2010 5:55:23 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Czar

“Liberal California”, the “best we can do”, a “conservative can’t win”...

The same old tired phrases from out of staters who have no clue or who buy into the BS spewed by the RINO tent.

Add to the RNC/NRCC/NRSC list Rove’s new “Crossroads” groups, the RMSP, the CRP, the New Majority, and the Chambers of Commerce who have very little interest in honest commerce.

I know you know all that, but every 100th time some freeper laments about how Mr./Ms. so-and-so is the ‘best we can hope for’, I feel obliged to educate, or at least try.


44 posted on 10/07/2010 6:14:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: pissant

Get over it!

Time to dance with the winner, whinner!


45 posted on 10/07/2010 6:17:33 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: pissant

Hide and watch!

Fiorina must win on her own because of all the negatives that go along with being a republican in a democrate state.


46 posted on 10/07/2010 6:22:48 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: calcowgirl

Grrrrrrrrrr


47 posted on 10/07/2010 6:57:15 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

All I hear is crickets.
The same for my #29.


48 posted on 10/07/2010 7:19:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl

IT was around that time that my suspicions about the Coronation Crowd here were confirmed.


49 posted on 10/07/2010 7:22:38 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

That “hissy fit” mantra was a major talking point from the crowd and no one ever would support it with any facts.

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly
- it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
- - - Joseph Goebbels


50 posted on 10/07/2010 7:33:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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