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What the hell: How stealth banking bailout reached Obama’s desk
MichelleMalkin.com ^ | 10-7-10 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 10/07/2010 8:03:55 AM PDT by STARWISE

Both the left and right sides of the blogosphere are buzzing about a bipartisan TARP-style banking bailout bill that somehow reached President Obama’s desk in the legislative rush before Congress adjourned for the midterm election break.

The sordid episode underscores everything I’ve spotlighted about the culture of corruption over the last two years — sabotage of the deliberative process, circumventing of rules, backroom deals, and contempt for the will of the people.

Yes, the Vampire Congress strikes again.

The bill is HR3808, the “Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010,” which requires courts to accept as valid notarized letters made out of state, making it harder to challenge the authenticity of foreclosure and other legal documents. Here’s the legislative history of the bill.

Reuters lays out the basic story:

*snip*

And now, the dirty details of the legislative legerdemain that paved the bill’s path to Obama’s desk:

After languishing for months in the Senate Judiciary Committee, the bill passed the Senate with lightning speed and with hardly any public awareness of the bill’s existence on September 27, the day before the Senate recessed for midterm election campaign.

The bill’s approval involved invocation of a special procedure. Democratic Senator Robert Casey, shepherding last-minute legislation on behalf of the Senate leadership, had the bill taken away from the Senate Judiciary committee, which hadn’t acted on it.

The full Senate then immediately passed the bill without debate, by unanimous consent. No debates.

No amendments.

No roll call votes.

More:

The House had passed the bill in April. The House actually had passed identical bills twice before, but both times they died when the Senate Judiciary Committee failed to act.

Some House and Senate staffers said the Senate committee had let the bills languish because of concerns that they would interfere with individual state’s rights to regulate notarizations.

Senate staffers familiar with the judiciary committee’s actions said the latest one passed by the House seemed destined for the same fate. But shortly before the Senate’s recess, Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy pressed to have the bill rushed through the special procedure, after Leahy “constituents” called him and pressed for passage.

The staffers said they didn’t know who these constituents were or if anyone representing the mortgage industry or other interests had pressed for the bill to go through.

These staffers said that, in an unusual display of bipartisanship, Senator Jeff Sessions, the committee’s senior Republican, also helped to engineer the Senate’s unanimous consent for the bill.

Neither Leahy’s nor Session’s offices responded to requests for comment Wednesday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; banking; banks; bloggers; crooksandliars; foreclosures; fraud; leahy; sessions; tarp
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"These staffers said that, in an unusual display of bipartisanship, Senator Jeff Sessions, the committee’s senior Republican, also helped to engineer the Senate’s unanimous consent for the bill."

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Sen. Sessions: how could you ??? I thought you were one of the good guys ... dang!

1 posted on 10/07/2010 8:04:00 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; maggief; penelopesire; Liz; hoosiermama; SE Mom; nutmeg; SunkenCiv

.. Ping!


2 posted on 10/07/2010 8:04:55 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I think it’s time to FLUSH, the POT is full of crap.


3 posted on 10/07/2010 8:09:02 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: STARWISE

I’ve been watching those that found themselves on this list.

http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

(snip)

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison

//

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP


4 posted on 10/07/2010 8:12:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: rovenstinez; maggief

Absolutely!!

THROW ‘EM OUT .. THEN:
TERM LIMITS !!!!


5 posted on 10/07/2010 8:15:29 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
Amazing how fast a bill can pass when it protects the bankers...
6 posted on 10/07/2010 8:15:36 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: maggief

Are they involved also with this steal TARP
bill ?


7 posted on 10/07/2010 8:19:09 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Personally I’m suspicious how the democrats conveniently got out of town before it hit the fan.


8 posted on 10/07/2010 8:22:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: STARWISE

Another Outrage of the Day!

This deserves a protest! A serious Pitchforks and Torches protest!

Before the new congress is seated, before the new year, I would love to see 100,000 Americans on the Capital Mall in a nighttime protest, where I’d love to see 100,000 angry tax-paying Americans light their torches and march up to the White House or the Capital and shake our pitchforks and torches at them. I would call it the “Fair Warning” march.
I would be willing to donate hay, pitch, labor in making torches, I would gladly pass them out and would absolutely delight in watching these torches be lit one by one...

I would be willing to donate pillows (or feathers) and I am sure I could find someone willing to donate at least one large bucket of cold tar.

After a few speaches and the lighting of the torches, march up to the Capital for a few chants, a few speaches, and then we can sing a few patriotic songs. The last words from some speaker/leader will be “You are duly warned.”

And then we can all leave in a deafening silence.

The point would be to let them know, we came to give them a warning, that we love America, and if they continue to ruin it, and fail to heed our warning, they need to leave.
They need to fear us.

April 14 should be Tax REVOLT Day if they allow this to happen. Everyone files the forms, but sends in a check marked VOID. In the memo, I would put, “You no long have consent to govern.” Even if only 3% of returns are done this way, it would be enough to starve Leviathan.

We need to show them we are serious.

PITCHFORKS! TORCHES! TAR! FEATHERS!


9 posted on 10/07/2010 8:22:49 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: STARWISE

And notice that it was a GOP House member who authored the bill - both in this session of Congress and the previous one.

This is why the GOP cannot be trusted. They’re snakes. They’re fully willing to step-n-fetch for the bankers, just as the DNC is.


10 posted on 10/07/2010 8:27:59 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: maggief

That looks like a list of the “old guard”.


11 posted on 10/07/2010 8:29:06 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: STARWISE

Oh, and NB that it passed on voice vote in the House, and by UC in the Senate.

There’s no way to know who was “acclaiming” this piece of crap.


12 posted on 10/07/2010 8:29:06 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: STARWISE
The bill, passed without public debate in a way that even surprised its main sponsor, Republican Representative Robert Aderholt, requires courts to accept as valid document notarizations made out of state, making it harder to challenge the authenticity of foreclosure and other legal documents.
13 posted on 10/07/2010 8:30:18 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: WAW

I completely agree traitors to the people all of them! This screws the people who did the right thing, paid their bills, bought what they could afford I am so disgusted with all of this.


14 posted on 10/07/2010 8:30:34 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: STARWISE

Notary stamps on ebay go for 25 bucks. Folks, don’t miss out on the Robosigning bonanza! Do thousands a day, in your home and make $$$$$ money! Contact Honest Leisler Legal Service Contractors Today!


15 posted on 10/07/2010 8:33:43 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: FromLori

At least they could outsource it all to Pakistan and have Shuria courts do it cheap!


16 posted on 10/07/2010 8:35:10 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: FromLori

I will gladly pass out pitchforks and torches at a rally. I would love to see some patriot Americans show up in their colonial garb carrying long muskets, drum and fife, toting the Gadsden flag.

I would love to see all those torches lit up at night and hear us singing on the Capital steps about the country we love.

I would love to see the photos afterward of the Mall all lit up with our torches, light glistening off the tines of the pitchforks, the small clouds of feathers, reflected in the bucket of tar.

And I’d gladly volunteer for trash duty afterward.


17 posted on 10/07/2010 8:39:33 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: FromLori

I will gladly pass out pitchforks and torches at a rally. I would love to see some patriot Americans show up in their colonial garb carrying long muskets, drum and fife, toting the Gadsden flag.

I would love to see all those torches lit up at night and hear us singing on the Capital steps about the country we love.

I would love to see the photos afterward of the Mall all lit up with our torches, light glistening off the tines of the pitchforks, the small clouds of feathers, reflected in the bucket of tar.

And I’d gladly volunteer for trash duty afterward.


18 posted on 10/07/2010 8:39:33 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: STARWISE

I had apartment buildings a few years back, and I had to deal with contractors all the time for electricity, plumbing, roofing, etc etc etc..

In my experience it is the ones who tell you “You can trust me” that are the ones you can trust the least.

Something like that never occurs to the real honest people.

But the liars are always always always trying to convince you that they are not lying to you.

When some one has to tell you that he will run “the most transparent” govt ever you can be pretty certain he will pull more back door bull$h!t that you ever expect.


19 posted on 10/07/2010 8:42:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (PALADINO for GOV. OF NY --- VOTE LIKE YOUR CHILD'S LIFE DEPENDS ON IT! (BECAUSE IT DOES))
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To: STARWISE

“The bill is HR3808, the “Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010,” which requires courts to accept as valid notarized letters made out of state, making it harder to challenge the authenticity of foreclosure and other legal documents.”

Ok. The law extends full faith and credit to a notarized signature if it was obtained under the laws of the state where the signature was notarized. It gives a presumption of validity to the signature and shifts the burden of proving it is fraudulent to anyone challenging its authenticity.

I guess I don’t exactly see this as a TARP-like bailout for banks unless there are allegations that signatures were notarized fraudulently on a systemic basis. To the extent it does shift the burden of proof from perhaps the bank to a mortgagor, I frankly think the mortgagor should have the burden of proving his or her signature was not validly obtained.

A valid notary does not invalidate a fraudulent deal. The only thing a notary generally establishes is that the person who signed the document presented evidence they were the person whose name is on the document. Some states do have different requirements. In California, for example, any transaction involving real estate requires a thumbprint. The requirements recently changed to no longer allow notaries to skip the valid identification documents if that notary personally knows the signer and attests to that fact.

If people are arguing that a past notary is no longer valid because it doesn’t meet new or out-of-state requirements, then it appears they are trying to get off on a technicality. It does not appear that anything in the new law precludes someone from arguing the deal was fraudulent but, when the documents look official and follow the notary rules of the time and place when obtained, I think the burden belongs with the person seeking to invalidate that signature.

Educate me if I am misperceiving this law but it appears fairly neutral and might be needed in these days of interstate transactions and securitization of financial documents. Now, if you want to argue that financial documents ought not be securitized, have at it. That’s an entirely different matter.


20 posted on 10/07/2010 8:43:09 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: STARWISE

“As a rule of thumb, Congressional legislation that is bipartisan is usually twice as bad as legislation that is partisan.” — Thomas Sowell


21 posted on 10/07/2010 8:44:40 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: rovenstinez

Both parties are almost equally corrupt in terms of banking and wall street.


22 posted on 10/07/2010 8:44:47 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: Leisler

I guess it really shouldn’t be a surprise after knowing how those banksters like goldman sachs, jp morgan, citi paid off obama and many of the senators. I personally have nothing to do with those banks I went to a local bank way back when this all started happening but it’s disturbing now because as a taxpayer we still have to foot the bill and a report came out just the other day there is a $29 billion loss again from the old bailout.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/business/economy/06tarp.html


23 posted on 10/07/2010 8:45:21 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: STARWISE

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3808&tab=committees

Apr 27, 2010: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative’s position was not kept.

Sep 27, 2010: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each senator’s position was not kept.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3808&tab=committees

The bill has been referred to the following committees:
House Judiciary
House Judiciary, Subcommittee on Courts and Competition Policy
Senate Judiciary

http://judiciary.senate.gov/about/members.cfm

* Jeff Sessions, Alabama, Ranking Member
* Orrin Hatch, Utah
* Chuck Grassley, Iowa
* Jon Kyl, Arizona
* Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
* John Cornyn, Texas
* Tom Coburn, Oklahoma


24 posted on 10/07/2010 8:45:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: STARWISE

No politician that voted for this theft of private property ought to be re-elected. Publish the list, please.


25 posted on 10/07/2010 8:45:37 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: NVDave
They’re fully willing to step-n-fetch for the bankers, just as the DNC is.

If they weren't, they would never be permitted to "win" an election.

26 posted on 10/07/2010 8:46:38 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: GlockThe Vote

That they are.


27 posted on 10/07/2010 8:47:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rovenstinez
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I'll second that!

28 posted on 10/07/2010 8:52:43 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: Chunga85

VERY BIG, VERY IMPORTANT PING!!!

History of the bill

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.3808:@@@X


29 posted on 10/07/2010 8:54:53 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: maggief; onyx; penelopesire; hoosiermama; Liz; nutmeg; SunkenCiv; SE Mom; GOP_Lady; Sub-Driver; ...

Jeeeeeeze ...

Thanks a million, maggie.

Records of votes aren’t required ?

What hammer/threats were held over
the pubbie’s heads to procure this ?

Or .. were there any ? What’s the deal ?


30 posted on 10/07/2010 8:57:18 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Sponsor
Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4]-Republican (introduced 10/14/2009)
Co-Sponsors
Rep Braley, Bruce L. [IA-1] - 10/14/2009-Democrat
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 10/14/2009-Republican
Rep Davis, Artur [AL-7] - 10/14/2009- Democrat


31 posted on 10/07/2010 8:59:12 AM PDT by maggief
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To: STARWISE
What’s the deal ?

They are POLITICIANS!!!!!

Politician n. - A four letter word spelled with ten letters.

32 posted on 10/07/2010 9:00:17 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: caseinpoint

Correction: I stated a valid notary does not invalidate a fraudulent deal. I meant to write a valid notary does not validate a fraudulent deal. One can always prove fraud, no matter how valid the notaries.


33 posted on 10/07/2010 9:02:01 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: STARWISE

It is an attempt to reduce the furor over the records “abuses” in the current mass forclosure mess.

Notary evidence? I am not sure how this is a big issue. Most notaries simply state that the person who signed is who he says he is and that they witnessed the signature and the date.

Almost anyone can decide to be a notary. Is this a serious issue? Depends if there is a financial interest in the transaction.


34 posted on 10/07/2010 9:03:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil; caseinpoint

TF, CASE;

I don’t think people are necessarily upset with the substance of the bill. It’s the fact that in the face of recent allegations of fraud on the part of the financial industry- Dems and Pubs, by unanimous consent, stealthily, instantly legalize part of alleged fraud by federal fiat.


35 posted on 10/07/2010 9:13:28 AM PDT by VinL (VinL---It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: maggief

Mike Castle?

Might explain the desperation of the RINOs to make sure he stayed in office.


36 posted on 10/07/2010 9:14:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: STARWISE

6.3 TRILLION we are on the hook for and this will ensure we get stuck paying for it and that figure was from last February I know for a fact that with all the foreclosures since it has skyrocketed since then and note this money was left out of the Federal Budget!

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-01/obama-keeps-fannie-freddie-off-u-s-budget-counts-dividends.html


37 posted on 10/07/2010 9:23:03 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: VinL
instantly legalize part of alleged fraud by federal fiat.

I am certainly for prosecuting anyone who used "fraud" in the forclosure of homes. However if there is no "fraud" and the issue is recognition of a notary across state lines, that is another thing.

This may turn into a revenue enhancer for the legal profession and nothing of benefit will happen for those who were in forclosure. Is this a condemnation of interstate banking? Do you remember the discussion of that issue? Part of the problem of our time is that the institutions are so large as to be above accountability. Old Chinese proverb: "Today's problems were often yesterday's solutions."

38 posted on 10/07/2010 9:29:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Mike Castle?”

Interesting, eh?


39 posted on 10/07/2010 9:38:36 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Personaly I wonder if the surge of the tea party might not have triggered much of this mess because nobody knows if their corrupt congressman will be able to protect them any more.


40 posted on 10/07/2010 9:42:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: STARWISE

Unanimous consent should be abolished.

It is unconstitutional (imho). The constitution requires all bills to be voted on. This is not a vote. They can spin it or use lawyer logic all they want, it is not a vote.


41 posted on 10/07/2010 9:51:18 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: cripplecreek; maggief; STARWISE

Something is going on they don’t want us to know about. Dad said a month ago the stock market would be manipulated before the election to look like it was getting healthier (Soros?).

Is there something else going on they are trying to protect?


42 posted on 10/07/2010 9:51:20 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: caseinpoint
Educate me if I am misperceiving this law but it appears fairly neutral and might be needed in these days of interstate transactions and securitization of financial documents

You have to look at this law in the context of all of the recent (and apparently credible) allegations of fraudulent documents being used in foreclosure procedures. Do you think it coincidental that a bill making it harder to challenge such documents suddenly was rushed through the Senate shortly after this story started breaking?

I don't. I don't blindly trust corporate interests any longer, the financial crises has shown they have serious ethical problems that have been wedded to the other ethical problems that many of our elected officials carry.

43 posted on 10/07/2010 9:55:05 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: STARWISE

YES, TERM LIMITS IS THE ONLY WAY. Career politicians are corrupt by definition.


44 posted on 10/07/2010 10:03:32 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Leisler

...requires courts to accept as valid document notarizations made out of state, making it harder to challenge the authenticity of foreclosure and other legal documents.


Shouldn’t this be a state by state decision anyway? If Ohio wants to accept them, and Nevada doesn’t that should be each state’s choice.


45 posted on 10/07/2010 10:05:09 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: Brookhaven

Large banks want to reduce costs. It’s expensive to have a large bank, nationwide. Frankly, they don’t know the local markets, anywhere. But, wither selling, holding, packaging mortgages, or later foreclosing, they have you, via Uncle Sam, to pick up the losses. Private profit, public losses.

Now local banks don’t get bailed out if they make a local market error. Like us, local banks exist in local free market, and like us, exist only to be squeezed for taxes to support Washington, and large institutions, like the banks, GM, Amtrack, Unions.

The houses are in a state, the title in in a county. It should be delt with closest to the citizen and their property.

Pretty soon the corporations will want to foreclose out of one court in North Dakota, and if you or your lawyer can’t make it there for the 20 second hearing, tough luck.

But right now, the same large sloppy banks that got bailed out financially, and legally for writing all these bad notes, and made huge profits, now they don’t want to pick up the costs of foreclosing on them. Again, the citizens in general, spread out in various ways, pick up the cost of doing their national business model, they keep the savings and get the profits.

Another thing. These are zombie banks. They are dead. Both Republicans and Democrats are, after the first round of massive bailouts, desperate to, by hook or crook, get money into these banks. Otherwise there will be a second bailout or collapse of these banks, and then armed revolution and federal officials hanging from lamp posts. They really need a second bailout, or to be shut down. ( No private person or institution would every buy these toxic banks ) So the solution, bi-partisan in Congress is to rigg the game every which way to strip costs for these banks, and get them money.....all...all at the expense of the average citizen. But it has to be done without us catching on.

BtW, I believe in rapid, legal foreclose and do not and didn’t support Obama’s or anyone else so called modification efforts.

The sooner the house market clears, legally, the better.

But in this case, this is not what is going on behind the scenes.


46 posted on 10/07/2010 10:24:25 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: maggief

Ha! So the neo-cons and RINOs are trying to get ahead of the tea parties in order to save their business-as-usual politics.

Step 1. Defeat the Rats.

Step 2. Throw out these corrupt Pubbies..


47 posted on 10/07/2010 10:25:52 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: dirtboy

EXACTLY.

Especially because the same bill was introduced (by the same scum-sucking Republican) in the last session of Congress - and it went nowhere.

This session, it started going places as soon as the depositions of the robo-signers started hitting the ‘net in April...

Coincidence? I suppose some people still believe in the Tooth Fairy.

I’m not one of them, however.


48 posted on 10/07/2010 10:29:29 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: dirtboy

First these coporations, really Washington’s Mini-Me’s got the bailouts.

Then they got the Federal Reserve Zero Interest money, rapping savers, pension funds( but, F’m, they’re sheeple ),

Now they are getting a sweetheart deal in clearing up these bad morgages.

It’s nice to be joined at the hip with the Fed, and Washington.

Like GW Bush’s Home Ownership Society, and Bwarny Fwank with his Democrat friends in Franny, and Fredie, it’s a bi-partisan porking. Again.

( What partisan? When ever it’s us, working stiff against big anything....unions, banks, corporations....there is no partisan for us. Renaming a post office? yeah, they put on a big show. Dog and pony. The important stuff? All aboard the public rape train, no stopping! )


49 posted on 10/07/2010 10:31:14 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: STARWISE

Thank God he did. If foreclosures are stopped for good, we’ll never get out of this mess. If MBS are determined to be worthless on technicalities, our banking system would crumble. Yes, every bank - from the smallest credit union to JP Morgan Chase - would fail and the dollar would be destroyed.

The US wouldn’t be able print enough money to prevent it.

Think about it - any Senator could have stopped unanimous consent by objecting and no one did, not even Jim DeMint.

Maybe you’d prefer deadbeats being able to stay in their houses rent-free, regardless of the consequences for the rest of us?


50 posted on 10/07/2010 10:49:39 AM PDT by green iguana
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