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Student Discovers Tracking Device Under His Car
KTVU ^ | 8 Oct 10 | Unknown

Posted on 10/09/2010 7:03:30 AM PDT by LSUfan

A Santa Clara man says that he discovered an FBI tracking device attached to the underside of his car earlier this week and since then, he has received unexpected visits from FBI agents.

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Twenty-year-old Mission College student Yasir Afifi...

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Afifi is a U.S. native who speaks both English and Arabic. His mother is American and his late father was an Egyptian living in the Bay Area, who also served as the head of a local Muslim Community Center. Afifi said he sells computers for Cal Micro and takes frequent trips to the Middle East, where his father lived until he passed...

(Excerpt) Read more at ktvu.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; homegrownjihad; islam; jihad; mohammedanism; religionofpeace; stealthjihad; yemen
And CAIR moves in to sue with Saudi petrodollars...
1 posted on 10/09/2010 7:03:35 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

So Iis this a good news or bad news story?


2 posted on 10/09/2010 7:05:09 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: LSUfan

Racial profiling?


3 posted on 10/09/2010 7:06:04 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: LSUfan

Without passing any judgment on the intended target here, if the courts have ruled that people have no reasonable expectation of privacy in their own driveway (such that LE can place devices and track people) then I say LE has no expectation of keeping stuff that they donated to your car. The tracker is his, now. This police state crap is getting out of hand.


4 posted on 10/09/2010 7:08:54 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: LSUfan

If this guy is NOT BEING tracked somebody should get b!tch SLAPPED...


5 posted on 10/09/2010 7:09:20 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: LSUfan

Student???...


6 posted on 10/09/2010 7:11:52 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: LSUfan
What ever happened to the good o'l days when the spooks provided suspected men they needed intel on, a nice, busty, horny, girlfriend who would kiss-n-tell?

One rule persists with Jihadists, and that being they don't get laid much, except from other male jihadists.

Islam + Sexual Issues = Jihad. It's that simple.

7 posted on 10/09/2010 7:16:11 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: coloradan

The suspect should have fedex’d the tracking device to Tiajuana Mexico and kept his mouth shut.


8 posted on 10/09/2010 7:19:09 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: al baby

I don’t know if it’s good or bad—but it sure seems weird.......Apparently, this young man has a clean record.


9 posted on 10/09/2010 7:21:39 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: LSUfan

Normally, I’d sympathize.

Then I saw that his father was a Muzzie.

Sorry - sympathy off.


10 posted on 10/09/2010 7:22:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: LSUfan

If you attach something to someone’s property, it then belongs to them.
This is the basis for it being illegal to remove light fixtures, light bulbs, TV antennas and such from a building if you move.


11 posted on 10/09/2010 7:22:22 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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“Yasir.” If they were tracking him, they had good reason.


12 posted on 10/09/2010 7:23:08 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: LSUfan

They should all be tracked.

This was probably a red herring, there are tracking devices that can be used that are truly works of engineering.

They can be almost anything, even inside a working oil filter thats just been replaced, or a wiper blade.


13 posted on 10/09/2010 7:24:46 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: LSUfan

If these people are so offended, perhaps they should move to Saudi. Then they wouldn’t have anything to bitch about.


14 posted on 10/09/2010 7:25:34 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: blackdog

or pulled it off and slapped it onto the first garbage truck he saw


15 posted on 10/09/2010 7:29:45 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Da Coyote

Sorry, I don’t buy it. I will take my chances with the Muslims before we have a country where every vehicle is tracked 24/7 by the government. And that’s where this is headed.

Full GPS tracking of vehicles has already been proposed in several states. Full Internet tracking by the government is already the practice in many countries, including Great Brittan, and has recently been floated by Obama’s Orks.

If we don’t stop this now loss of privacy now, our ability to remain free people will be gone in a generation.


16 posted on 10/09/2010 7:33:27 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BuffaloJack

You are correct unless fedgov.con did the attaching.
Then they have the right to recover the property, force you to pay for any damage you may have done to gov property and press charges against you for interfering with a fedgov.con investigation.

Welcome to the new world order which is actually satans master plan to enslave the human race and take as many souls to hell for eternity as possible all the while giving God the middle finger.


17 posted on 10/09/2010 7:35:35 AM PDT by winodog
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To: LSUfan

I Know a guy that places these things for the FBI. Believe me the hoops they have to jump through to get one places is not a casual thing,(despite what the media says) So if they are tracking you, they have a hell of a reason to think they need to.


18 posted on 10/09/2010 7:36:12 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: LSUfan

This is interesting.... why didn’t they attach a smaller unit? Good grief.

http://gawker.com/5658671/dont-post-pictures-of-an-fbi-tracking-device-you-find-on-a-car-to-the-internet


19 posted on 10/09/2010 7:36:35 AM PDT by cpanter
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To: LSUfan
Could be a diversion.

Place "tracking" devices on cars of innocent people with mideast origins , and when they're discovered, the public outcry becomes too loud, and laws are passed blocking the FBI, thereby freeing the actual muzzies to do what they want.

Just a wild theory. But with an administration where up is down and down is up, and where right is wrong and wrong is right, nothing would surprise me.

20 posted on 10/09/2010 7:36:35 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: LSUfan

1. Was there probable cause or was the FBI just being lazy?
2. What caused him to “find” it?
3. Why wasn’t it better hidden by the FBI?
4. Certainly I can hide a spare key where “normal maintenance” isn’t going to reveal it!


21 posted on 10/09/2010 7:38:47 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: blackdog

“The suspect should have fedex’d the tracking device to Tiajuana Mexico and kept his mouth shut.”

Snuck it onto one of the Janet Flights from Vegas to Area 51. Now *that* would have caused a stir!


22 posted on 10/09/2010 7:40:09 AM PDT by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: Da Coyote

I’m with you.
If you’re a member of a deathcult ‘religion’ that is terrorizing the world you should EXPECT suspicion. Track their cars, their every damn move.
The 9-11 murderers were ‘innocent’ until they stepped on planes too.


23 posted on 10/09/2010 7:44:37 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: G Larry
1. Was there probable cause or was the FBI just being lazy?

At least one judge has ruled they don't need probable cause or a warrant to do this. Since cars are in a public place, using a GPS device is just like having the police follow you around.

The only thing preventing them from tracking ALL vehicles is lack of budget. There is currently no legal restraint.

24 posted on 10/09/2010 7:50:04 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: basil

There is no reason to believe that this guy has a clean record. Most Jihadis have squeaky clean records all the way up until they do something horrible. The fact that his dad was a “respected member of the Muslim community” holds no water with me either. I know of at least two instances in which Jihadis were found to be sons of local Imams at the community mosques here in the USA, including a case in south Alabama of an American citizen who is now fighting for Al Qaeda in Somalia.


25 posted on 10/09/2010 7:58:26 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Great story here.....
“My plan was to just put the device on another car or in a lake,” Khaled wrote, “but when you come home to 2 stoned off-their-asses people who are hearing things in the device and convinced it’s a bomb you just gotta be sure.”

LOL!!!!

Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/fbi-tracking-device/#ixzz11sCOXSDy


26 posted on 10/09/2010 7:58:49 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: BigBobber

I’m not talking about “probable cause” that stands up in court.
What drew their attention to him?
They should have had strong suspicions and used the GPS for “clinching” evidence.


27 posted on 10/09/2010 8:01:50 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: basil

I’m wondering how he found out about it? Given a tip?


28 posted on 10/09/2010 8:04:11 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: cameraeye

Article says he brought his car in for an oil change and the mechanic pointed it out to him.


29 posted on 10/09/2010 8:10:54 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Yeah...they are all students...doncha know. And they all should be tracked. Don’t bug me with this racial profiling stuff. PC is killing us...........even muslims say there is no such thing as a”moderate” muslim. It’s like being a non-practicing vegetarian.

This Santa Clara MCC is the one that just got a 64 foot tall minaret approved UNANIMOUSLY by the city planning commission....idiots.


30 posted on 10/09/2010 8:17:52 AM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: BigBobber

“one judge has ruled they don’t need probable cause or a warrant to do this.”

Well,,, there is something fishy about Afifi’s stories. His father was a muzzie bigwig, and was on the official “Watch List.” So was Afifi. Afifi sends money to Egypt, supposedly supporting his two brothers. One of his good buddies posted online about a mall, and a bomb. Afifi travels the Mideast extensively. Lotsa flags with this guy.


31 posted on 10/09/2010 8:26:44 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

He may need to be tracked. But they should have to prove that to a judge.

Modern technology is making police surveillance less and less costly. Tactics like shadowing or staking out that used to be rare becasue of the expense in manpower are now cheap because men can be replaced by inexpensive machines. Unless there are legal constraints their use is going to become widespread.


32 posted on 10/09/2010 8:57:00 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: LSUfan

FBI is right, CAIR is wrong.


33 posted on 10/09/2010 9:05:22 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: LSUfan

“It’s an expensive piece of federal agency property and we need it right now, where is it?” said the agents, according to Afifi.

He said it was in his living room and returned it to the agents
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What? This tracking device only works while attached to a car? Why didn’t the FBI know where it was anymore? Did he disable it? This is the part that makes the least amount of sense to me.


34 posted on 10/09/2010 9:24:19 AM PDT by clashfan
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To: LSUfan

Afifi - check
Student - check
Frequent trips to ME - check
Computer “sells” - check
Head of muslim “community center” - check
“late father was an Egyptian living in the Bay Area” contradicted by “the Middle East, where his father lived until he passed in” - can’t keep his story straight so double/triple check (who passes IN?)

Let’s hope the FBI planted listening devices while in his apartment.


35 posted on 10/09/2010 9:26:07 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: mountn man; G Larry
...when he took his car in for an oil change. "They lifted it up. I was doing an oil change. Then I saw a glimmering black device with a wire hanging out," said Afifi. Afifi said under the car near the exhaust he found two devices attached by magnets. He removed them...

Yes, I agree that it could be a diversion since his story continues to smell. He can't even keep his story straight about his father. So, the garage let him get under the car to change the oil himself - and changing the oil by the exhaust? No, I don't think so. Yet, the msm eats this up and the sheeple follow blindly along.

36 posted on 10/09/2010 9:45:27 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: LSUfan; basil
There is no reason to believe that this guy has a clean record. Most Jihadis have squeaky clean records all the way up until they do something horrible. The fact that his dad was a “respected member of the Muslim community” holds no water with me either.

Ft. Hood - Hasan. Nuff said.

37 posted on 10/09/2010 9:49:01 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: BigBobber

“they should have to prove that to a judge.”

I agree abdo-lutely! And so do my LEO friends. One of the articles I found through links, mentioned a 30 or 60 day warrant to track this guy.


38 posted on 10/09/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: LSUfan; cameraeye
Article says he brought his car in for an oil change and the mechanic pointed it out to him.

No, he said he saw it and he removed it. See my post #36. His story doesn't pass the smell test. Since when do customers get to go underneath a car on the rack, much less change their own oil. What mechanic is dumb enough to be opening his mouth over tracking devices? If it was some unidentified black box with wires hanging out, the mechanic would be dumb not to be running out the back door dialing 911. But, hey, any time I take two unidentified black boxes with wires hanging out off my car, I always take them home and let them sit on my coffee table for a few days, uh huh.

39 posted on 10/09/2010 10:00:11 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: LSUfan
Student Discovers Tracking Device Under His Car

Yeah, and Rodney King was a "Motorist."

40 posted on 10/09/2010 10:23:51 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: LSUfan

Well, if I were to discover a tracking device of any kind under my car, I’d detach it and toss it into the river. And never tell a soul.


41 posted on 10/09/2010 10:33:40 AM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: LSUfan

FedEx it to overseas.


42 posted on 10/09/2010 10:49:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: bgill

Are you saying this guy is Hasan’s son? Good grief!!!!


43 posted on 10/09/2010 11:50:56 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Good grief, how did you come to that conclusion. No, the discussion was about so called well respected within the muslim community. So was Hasan but look at what happened there.


44 posted on 10/09/2010 2:10:01 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: BigBobber

If you don’t have ties to the middle east I wouldn’t worry about it. I know it seems like we are being spied on but if you have nothing to hide why bother. In the modern age of technology we all may have to make sacrifices to keep our country safe from foreign and domestic threats.


45 posted on 10/09/2010 2:52:57 PM PDT by 3rdcoastislander
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To: Eye of Unk

I’ve been thinking the same thing.

That hunk of junk was ridiculously bulky and awkward. I can’t believe that represents top-of-the-line. Maybe the real one is hidden somewheres else?

And all the articles on the subject dance around the notion of this dude’s mysterious father. That and the fact that he visited the ME regularly gives plenty of reasonable cause for suspicion.


46 posted on 10/10/2010 12:24:48 AM PDT by sinanju
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