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How drunk is drunk? Officers want state's legal limit lowered (Texas)
KENS ^ | 10/08/2010 | Nadia Ramdass / KENS 5

Posted on 10/09/2010 7:48:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

SAN ANTONIO -- How drunk is drunk? Some police officers in Texas want a newly revised definition.

Currently, the blood alcohol level (BAC) of 0.08 or higher is considered to be under the influence, but one police chief wants to lower that number and change the legal limit.

KENS 5 talked to drivers about the proposed new law and we observed a varied reaction.

The next time you are at the bar or perhaps at a sporting event enjoying a casual cocktail, you may want to think twice about drinking that alcoholic beverage before planning to drive.

"I guess if I got pulled over and had one drink, I would be pretty upset about it," said driver and moderate social drinker April Brown.

The national standard is 0.08, but Austin's Police Chief Art Acevedo is pushing state lawmakers to allow officers to arrest drivers with a BAC between 0.05 and 0.07. The Chief said too many people are being arrested for DWIs and then plea bargaining for a lesser charge.

"One glass or maybe even one beer shouldn't be where you get in trouble for that," said driver Melody Segura.

The American Beverage Institute is urging Texas lawmakers to reject the proposed new law, saying it's attacking moderate social drinkers. The trade group responded with the following remark:

"By further lowering the legal BAC level, this proposal ignores the root cause of today's drunk driving problem, hard core alcohol abusers" (Sarah Longwell / Spokeswoman, American Beverage Institute)

"I think it's great" to lower the limit, said driver Max Sanchez.

Sanchez is for the proposed new law after years of watching his father battle with alcohol abuse and racking up many DWIs over the years.

"I really feel from the moment you take that first drink you know what you’re doing. So I think it's a good thing," said Sanchez.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) of South Texas released this statement in response to the proposed law change:

"In 2009, 1,235 people died and 17,833 were injured in drunk driving crashes on Texas roadways. MADD is committed to supporting our partners and heroes in law enforcement in their dedicated efforts to keep our roadways safe. MADD remains focused on legislation proven to save lives, such as requiring ignition interlocks for all convicted drunk drivers with an illegal BAC of .08 or greater and allowing law enforcement officers to conduct sobriety checkpoints." (Jennifer Northway / Executive Director, MADD South Texas).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’d vote for it but, sadly, it won’t pass in Texas.


21 posted on 10/09/2010 8:31:35 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: WHBates

Weren’t the Trial Lawyers behind the push in states to reduce the limit to .08?


22 posted on 10/09/2010 8:34:54 PM PDT by willk
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To: Responsibility2nd

They (government) want more money. It’s as simple as that. These people have never heard of the law of diminishing returns.


23 posted on 10/09/2010 8:37:48 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have some wishes for law enforcement:

Start serving and protecting

You have turned into unmitigated bullies and asses


24 posted on 10/09/2010 8:40:06 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Austin police chief is not “Texas officers.” It’s the Austin police chief.


25 posted on 10/09/2010 8:40:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Luke21

9 times out of 10 law enforcement is a euphemism for tax collection.

In my (not so) humble opinion, any law based on an arbitrary number is defacto immoral - the focus ought be on safety and smooth flow.

Of course, there isn’t any money to be made with that, so it’ll never happen stateside.


26 posted on 10/09/2010 8:45:12 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: Larry Lucido
Yes.

Herr Acivedo continues his campaign for Reichsführer of Travis County.

He's on the radio a lot down here, and the polite demeanor and friendly disposition with which he describes whatever his new draconian policy of the week is quite disturbing.

I heard he was interviewing for the PC's spot in Dallas; please let him be gone soon.

27 posted on 10/09/2010 8:47:59 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Responsibility2nd

this is probably because of sloppy police work at trial is resulting in dimissials and prosecutors are dealing with piss poor cases.

it is also about generating revenue.


28 posted on 10/09/2010 8:48:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Free clue to KENS 5, if you had a .08 BAC you'd be dead.

The standard BAC for a drunk driving charge is .08%.

Which is a total scam as it is since .08% is not likely going to make you a less safe driver, merely increase opportunities for state revenue enhancement.

The old .1% standard really didn't make you that unsafe a driver but at least was reasonable cut off in that two beers at dinner wouldn't get you there.

29 posted on 10/09/2010 8:49:43 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: carjic
.05? You won’t even be able to have dinner and a drink with your wife and drive back home unless you weigh 350 pounds.

At .05, having ever had an alcoholic drink in your life will qualify.

I bet you didn't know this, but you can be CONVICTED of a DUI with a 0.00 BAC.

30 posted on 10/09/2010 8:52:56 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: AnalogReigns
Your typical accident-causing drunk has a blood alcohol level of OVER .15....nearly twice the legal limit.

DING DING DING DING

We have a winner.

31 posted on 10/09/2010 8:53:00 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

.08 is not even close to drunk for most people


32 posted on 10/09/2010 8:53:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Lazamataz
"I bet you didn't know this, but you can be CONVICTED of a DUI with a 0.00 BAC."

It comes under 'reasonable suspicion'. Small towns everywhere see a funding bonanza.

33 posted on 10/09/2010 9:04:46 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Responsibility2nd

I got an idea:

How about pulling over drivers who exhibit impairment, whether the impairment occurs from drinking, drugs, texting, doing your makeup, reading a book, yakking with your friends on the phone, etc etc etc.

Oh I know it would never happen - it would require actual work. Zero tolerance and checkpoints are much easier.


34 posted on 10/09/2010 9:06:30 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: AnalogReigns
"Your typical accident-causing drunk has a blood alcohol level of OVER .15"

But if your family has enough influence and money, you can bury your car upside down in a tidal river, leaving a woman to drown, and be declared the 'Lion of the Senate'.

35 posted on 10/09/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: willk

Yes and MADD, this entire DWI process has been a cash cow for the trial bar.


36 posted on 10/09/2010 9:07:22 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Lazamataz

They try it all the time in FL. You still get you license pull until after court which could take months. Actually, in FL the DMV (polics) pulls your license (a year BTW) and if convicted the Judge will pull you license. Why this isn’t double jeopardy I don’t understand. If you not convicted you get it back, by that time you have spent 3K to 4K maybe more.


37 posted on 10/09/2010 9:14:50 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Responsibility2nd
""In 2009, 1,235 people died and 17,833 were injured in drunk driving crashes on Texas roadways."

Yeah, I read about that in the papers almost every day;
funny thing though: most of the drunks are also illegals...

Seems one law doesn't mean any more to them than another.

38 posted on 10/09/2010 9:43:38 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: KarlInOhio
"I'm guessing that the primary consideration is an analysis of the fine revenue rather than road tests of drivers at various BACs."

No kidding...

And it just happens that Travis County is facing a budget shortfall!

39 posted on 10/09/2010 9:47:01 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: KarlInOhio

They ought to raise the limit...probably above .10. Maybe .12 or higher. I don’t drink, but if I can drive legally when tired, then one drink shouldn’t disqualify someone.


40 posted on 10/09/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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