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Posted on 10/09/2010 10:47:46 PM PDT by Kartographer
Back to Costco. On sale for $149.99 is the Food for Health Extreme Emergency Preparedness Kit, which includes, among dozens of other items:
25 servings of Western Stew 25 servings of Potato Soup 20 servings of Oatmeal Water Filtration System
Crank Flashlight/Radio/Cellphone Charger
4 N95 Safety Masks
1 Roll Duct Tape
"Especially developed for Costco members," the megastore assures
(Excerpt) Read more at vancouversun.com ...
“Still short of water,,,
Thats on the to do list as well as a small fireplace out
back to cook or heat stuff...”
Figure an average of 2 gallons of water per person per day for drinking, cooking, washing and personal hygiene. Stock bottled water for convenience, and focus on rain barrels or water collection and purification. There is also water that can be drained from your hot water heater, plumbing system, and toilet RESERVOIR.
A propane grill with a side burner should meet most all of your cooking needs.(a camp stove for indoors). I keep 10 20 lb propane tanks full at all times, and refill each one when emptied. (I grill & smoke meats a lot). That’s a lot of propane for grilling, but it won’t go bad, and it isn’t getting any cheaper.
Be careful cooking outdoors in a SHTF situation unless your willing to share your food!
I’ve got 4 tanks for my grill now,,,
The best thing about where I live is my neighbors,,,
4 0ther vets and about 10 of the young`un’s,,,
We have a good “pinch-point” to seal this place off,,,
Some have generators and freezers,,,
Plenty of beef/pig/deer...
Vlasic pickles has a tall pickle jar..not a gallon....that is excellent for just such a purpose....
my one complaint is sometimes the freezing affects the taste..I put big bags of sugar in and I thought it tasted funny....but in recipes it doesn't matter so much..
As I understand it, the Costco food kit includes giant sized cans that contain 42 servings each. This is fine, if your family has 42 people in it. But if there are only 4 or 5, once the can is opened, the other 38 servings will go to waste without refrigeration, which in an apocalyptic scenario would be absent. Regular sized cans would be better in that situation.
How are you supposed to store leftovers from those large cans?
That stack is certainly NOT portable. I’m going with foods that can be eaten cold - tuna, anchovies, beans, oatmeal, granola bars, beef jerky, etc. - and transportable.
Sounds like you live in my neighborhood!
I haven’t discussed SHTF scenarios with my neighbors, which I need to do, but am reluctant to tell anyone about my stash. Neighbors can be a great asset, but some can be a drain. Know who is the good, the bad and the ugly!
Just remember that generators are only good as long as their fuel supply lasts - usually a week or two at most.
I feel sorry for those that live in a big city, as their resources are limited, but then again, most of them are liberals, and liberals deserve to starve anyway!
We will tend our gardens and livestock while they riot.
“How are you supposed to store leftovers from those large cans?”
You cant! Stick with the standard size cans of fruits, vegetables and meats. Mega sized bags of rice, pasta, salt, sugar, dried beans and things like peanut butter, coffee, honey, pancake mix, flower, spices Bisquick, etc, are ok without refrigeration.
We are tighter than most folks,,,
Very long talks about “what if”,,,
I guess we’ll find out soon enough...
Ditto that. And the wife just can't understand why.
>>”Try a practice run by shutting off your gas, power, water and telephone for the weekend...”<<
This a a normal winter occurence in upstate NY!
We also keep about 6 months of food and needed items in our pantry, along with ammo, lots of ammo.
“As I understand it, the Costco food kit includes giant sized cans that contain 42 servings each. This is fine, if your family has 42 people in it. But if there are only 4 or 5, once the can is opened, the other 38 servings will go to waste without refrigeration, which in an apocalyptic scenario would be absent. Regular sized cans would be better in that situation.”
My first thought when I saw the size of the cans. I always buy large quantities of smaller cans, just for that reason.
To me it shows that they’re not taking this seriously, but rather just trying to cater to people who are worried, but also don’t spend their Sunday mornings researching what they need to know (like some of us).
At our preparedness group meeting next week we have a professional self-defense consultant coming in to present on "self-defense with blunt and edged weapons", which I think will be tremendously interesting. Next month we're having a group picnic and having a local expert walk us through the local woods pointing out all the edibles growing in nature.
I believe the TV-program "After Armageddon" is (by far) the most realistic representation of what to expect from a major nation-wide disaster (forget "The Colony", that's kid stuff). This show is available as a series of 9 videos on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r97xoSOEjM).
Well Costco gets the LVPD to shoot people over personal protection weaponry so they most likely will not be doing that. BTW matches in a survival pack are a bad idea - trust me on that. So are Bic type lighters. They do not work when wet. Much better to use alternative means. 9 volt battery, steel wool. Magnesium and flint etc.
More Coffee miss.
ping for later
Good idea. I’ve been “sort of” putting together supplies ... but if “it” hit (I live in a hurricane area), I haven’t a clue where everything “is”. I ordered 3 of these. One for “us” and the other two for my two boys, one lives in Atlanta (where he might need it on a daily basis) and the other lives in Washington DC, ground zero. Pretty good marketing on Costco’s part ... made it simple for me.
I find it important to cache as well. There are going to be millions in this country who will be absolutely unprepared and due to their entire lives being supported by goverment programs, will fare badly and act badly.
They will become roving mobs of hungry people moving, raiding and eating as they move, until they are stopped.
This is why it is so important to have land away from main roads, cache your survival items and let VERY few people know of its existence. Also be prepared to move to that location the very minute that local law enforcement loses control and federal agencies are moving in. You don’t want to be on choked highways.
“..if a widow has children or grandchildren they should first learn to carry out their religious duties toward their own family and in this way repay their parents and grandparents”
I Tim 5:4-6
Point being, Paul had destitute widows and their family taking care of their needs, if they were ignored and tossed unto the Church to take care of that made them worse than infidels.
Enjoy Scripture, do quote the whole issue that is being discussed.
This Costco “survival” package is fools gold aimed at Suburban Moms and Dads who are frightened into doing “something”.
That’s a filipino breakfast, lunch and/or dinner. LOL
To each there own, but I believe the Lord helps those who help themselves, but then it seems there needs be someone to sit on the bridge waiting for ‘gubermint’ cheese for the TV News Crews to flim.
“They will become roving mobs of hungry people moving, raiding and eating as they move, until they are stopped.”
They will, for the most part, likely be easily identifiable.
And I believe the Lord blesses whom He will, we can plan whatever we wish, He controls outcomes.
My larger point is this Costco package is more harmful than helpful, the package is purchased Suburbia thinks they have their needs met, things go bad and their preparation falls flat on it’s face.
What then? They would be far better served buying the items on your list.
The bible is full of instances in which the Lord warns and forewarns people of faith to prepare for a
coming catastrophe, from Noah and the flood, to the children of Israel for their exodus to the book of
Revelations, God has seen fit to warn us of coming events so that we might be able to prepare for them.
May are the times that he himself or his prophets, advised, counseled, exhorted, even commands, that
we prepare for what is about to befall and take shelter while yet there is time. Just as there are many
instances of God proving such warnings the bible is also full of the fate of those who did not heed and
continued with their feasting and making merry, idly pass their days with thinking that they were the
Masters of their own fate and above the plans and the policies of God and so by taking no heed of Gods
words, they took no action and sought no the shelter as directed and thus they perished. But in very few cases did he just hand the people what they needed a those how didn't heed didn't prepare ended up like those left behind when it was HE who closed the ark.
As far as promoting Costco I never shop there and it doesn't mater to me just were you do, but it does mater that so many expect seem and will expect me to share the food and things I sat aside for my wife, child and grandchildren
I believe the Lord bless who he wills, but he still expects us to have a spare tire in our truck when we take a long car trip.
whiskey ... check
toilet paper ... check
Not Mormon, but a country dweller and a farmer, the nearest store is 12 miles away. In bad years while we are hoping, praying and begging for financing there is usually a 3 month gap with no money comming in, in 2008 it was 6 months. I have always been prepared and we have always eaten well.
Once during a particularly busy time, my DIL and grandaughter came in and my granddaughter said “Grandma, we don’t have any groceries and we were too tired to go shopping so I told Mom, ‘Let’s just go shopping at Grandma’s.’”
If you are always prepared you just buy when things are on sale and save a lot of money. I pay full price for very few things.
That’s what my husband says and we’ve all eaten plenty of weevils but I’d sure rather not.
Sugar is fine it will last forever and you don’t have to freeze it, if it gets hard you just have to dissolve it. Honey is the same, if it hardens just heat it.
The best way to get rid of the weevils is to get an airtight bucket, put your food in it and add dry ice. It will fumigate your food without hurting you.
If you are good friends with a Mormon, or even if you aren’t they usually have a common place with a dry canner and they will let you purchase the supplies and use their canner if you ask.
You can find oxygen absorbers online.
Thats a filipino breakfast, lunch and/or dinner. LOL
You can actually get spam, eggs and rice in the McDonalds in Hawaii. It’s a popular cultural thing.
A SHTF sociatal collapse scenario although possible may be a remote probability. But a hurricane, tornado, power failure, flood or other natural disaster is not.
Anyone who doubts the wisdom of making basic preparations for emergency scenarios should watch four or five hours of Katrina news re-runs showing humongous herds of people too reliant on government or too stupid to even fill an empty bottle or jar with drinking water for themselves and their kids.
Now is the time to decide if you want you and your family to be thrown in the middle of a Katrina style mob or if you want to control your own destiny.
The Costco “kits” and other commercial offerings aren’t exactly what knowledgeable Preppers would recommend but they are a good start for people who want to do something. Making the kits available and bringing them to the attention of shoppers will help develop some awareness and get people thinking about taking some responsibility for their own well being.
I keep plenty of wood on hand for the purpose of keeping the house heated. It can also serve as fuel for cooking. Subzero temps in early December are common.
Thanks for the weevil info.
but it does mater that so many expect seem and will expect me to share the food and things I sat aside for my wife, child and grandchildren
and I’m glad to see you are prepoared to share with the poor, the needy, the sinner, the prostitute, the polygamist, the homosexual...
Thats commendable for when that day comes...
But what are you doing now ???
Did you share your food with a drug addict today ???
Did you hug a person with AIDS today ???
God loves the drunks and the homosexuals just as much as He loves you ...
More on drug expiration dates:
Thanks for the link. Reading the article reminded me that if you need daily medication, it would be wise to renew as soon as the drug plan allows and store up a stash .
You ask me what I dd today to service? And what part of the scripture are you following by asking that question?
Its’ been my expweiwnce that those who ask about deeds have done little themselves or have done for the wrong reason.
You may wish to study wah the scripture has to say about pride.
But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. James 2:18
but it does mater that so many expect seem and will expect me to share the food and things I sat aside for my wife, child and grandchildren
I took this statement to mean that you were boasting (pride) that you planned to feed your neighbors, the hungry...
Are you now saying that you wont do anything for the starving others ???
You plan to be greedy and say you wont share your bread ???
Then it would appear that those you accused of
“those who ask about deeds have done little themselves or have done for the wrong reason.”
are the very ones who have done MORE than you yourself...
Even that little they gave or will give to others (the least of these) is a lot to God...
Now what was it you said you would do ???
Oh thats right...
BTW how can there ever be a “wrong reason” for feeding the hungry” ???
I plan to take care of my family, as directed.
As for the hungry I trust that GOD will feed them if they have faith.
Yep, and it’s not a bad idea to store it vacuum-sealed in the fridge - which will probably extend the shelf life even more.
Barter your wheat into something you can use.
Yeah, that’s us in South Alabama, and yet the Pretender in Chief just keeps coming here. Heck even a hurricane goes away eventually ;).
thanks for the link