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Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic
New York Times ^ | October 9, 2010 | George Markoff

Posted on 10/10/2010 4:36:17 PM PDT by lbryce

Anyone driving the twists of Highway 1 between San Francisco and Los Angeles recently may have glimpsed a Toyota Prius with a curious funnel-like cylinder on the roof. Harder to notice was that the person at the wheel was not actually driving.

The car is a project of Google, which has been working in secret but in plain view on vehicles that can drive themselves, using artificial-intelligence software that can sense anything near the car and mimic the decisions made by a human driver.

With someone behind the wheel to take control if something goes awry and a technician in the passenger seat to monitor the navigation system, seven test cars have driven 1,000 miles without human intervention and more than 140,000 miles with only occasional human control. One even drove itself down Lombard Street in San Francisco, one of the steepest and curviest streets in the nation. The only accident, engineers said, was when one Google car was rear-ended while stopped at a traffic light.

Autonomous cars are years from mass production, but technologists who have long dreamed of them believe that they can transform society as profoundly as the Internet has.

Robot drivers react faster than humans, have 360-degree perception and do not get distracted, sleepy or intoxicated, the engineers argue. They speak in terms of lives saved and injuries avoided — more than 37,000 people died in car accidents in the United States in 2008. The engineers say the technology could double the capacity of roads by allowing cars to drive more safely while closer together. Because the robot cars would eventually be less likely to crash, they could be built lighter, reducing fuel consumption.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: driverlesscars; google; innovation
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To: 4buttons
How did it become legal for these guys to NOT be in control of their automobiles?

Think of it like cruise control. The computer is controlling the vehicle, but there is a driver behind the wheel ready to override if he doesn't like what the computer is doing.

21 posted on 10/10/2010 5:32:40 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
Driving with no hands on the wheel IS reckless driving in EVERY state.... I am sure it is against the law which is why they didn't let the story out until there were many miles logged.

It also won't run Windows,, it will be Google OS. Just think of all the "search results" they can drive you to now.

"I want the best burger in town. Take me there". Google then determines who paid the most for the best burger in town and then takes you there.....
22 posted on 10/10/2010 5:52:39 PM PDT by phalynx
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Kubuntu Kars?


23 posted on 10/10/2010 6:32:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: lbryce

A car with no driver would be a car that would be really easy to steal.


24 posted on 10/10/2010 6:41:50 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: lbryce
I would estimate we are about 10 years out from these becoming a commercial reality. First it will be implemented on long-haul trucks. (Seriously, I would NOT suggest truck driving as a long-term career for any young person for simply this reason). The cost savings for businesses will be too great to ignore.

Then it will spread down to luxury vehicles, and kits for handicapped and seniors and so on. Yes there will be errors and problems, but I expect that they will be rare from the outset - much lower than the risks of having human drivers. (I work as a quality engineer in automotive safety electronics.) This stuff is being developed over a long period, step by step, so there is time to refine the testing techniques and recognize the odd scenarios that could stump or fool the software.

I would strongly agree that two things be kept inviolate: that drivers be able to take control of the vehicle, and that the autonomous controls be strictly tied to driver input/control (not subject to remote manipulation or command).

25 posted on 10/10/2010 7:59:40 PM PDT by Liberty1970 ("Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you." - RoadTest)
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To: muawiyah
"You could send your car all by itself to the dealer for a check up and any warranty work."

True, and delivery vehicles could become extremely lightweight, designed to carry only the cargo and no passengers.

26 posted on 10/10/2010 8:03:16 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: lbryce

Teamsters are gonna love it - all bennies, no work.


27 posted on 10/10/2010 8:05:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Even people that can drive, could spend the commute time doing other things. For example putting on their makeup or eating breakfast, or texting....oh...well, you could do those things without being hazard. You could also read, work, etc.


28 posted on 10/10/2010 8:05:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"I’m sure the car of the future will have a MS Windows OS that will crash at the wrong time. Explain that one to your insurance agent."

I don't think anyone is suggesting letting microsoft design car operating systems.

My '96 Chevy has a computer that controls the engine and the cruise control. Almost all modern day cars do. In the event of a computer failure, the car goes into "limp mode", the individual components, fail safe to preset values that are still driveable but far from optimal.

There will be computer failures and some redundancy will have to be built into the cars. But relative to humans, the computers don't tire, don't get distracted (non-microsoft OS), and can do more things at once than a human.

29 posted on 10/10/2010 8:15:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Tucker39
"Man! I wish my ‘60 Chevy Impala would have had that! Imagine being driven around while you neck in the back seat. I was born too early!"

There is that downside. It would have been awesome when we were young. But as a parent, I'd be looking for that vehicle chaperone program.

30 posted on 10/10/2010 8:20:46 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Liberty1970
"I would strongly agree that two things be kept inviolate: that drivers be able to take control of the vehicle, and that the autonomous controls be strictly tied to driver input/control (not subject to remote manipulation or command). "

Generally agreed, but they should be options.

I can think of exceptions to this. A car owned by a DWI offender or other unsafe driver shouldn't allow the driver to take control.

Conversely, couriers, taxis, business vehicles, parents, guardians, may want remote control. It just needs to be secure enough to keep terrorists at bay. I think there are situations you should be able to alter the route, remotely, but you shouldn't be able to alter the programming remotely.

Once the technology is in place. How do you keep a terrorist from programming cars to attack? All he has to do is gain physical possession of the car and be able to make alterations. Some thought needs to be given to that.

Do we want to allow car owners to hack their own vehicle's software? Allowing it could make for vast improvements, as every car owner, could become a source of technical development. But without controlled testing, they could introduce errors that would be unsafe.

31 posted on 10/10/2010 8:30:08 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Once the technology is in place. How do you keep a terrorist from programming cars to attack? All he has to do is gain physical possession of the car and be able to make alterations. Some thought needs to be given to that. Do we want to allow car owners to hack their own vehicle's software? Allowing it could make for vast improvements, as every car owner, could become a source of technical development. But without controlled testing, they could introduce errors that would be unsafe. Anything can be misused, just like guns. But is it an acceptable risk? IMO yes...
32 posted on 10/11/2010 2:20:25 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: PapaBear3625

I repeat-

How did it become legal for these guys to NOT be in control of their automobiles?


33 posted on 10/11/2010 4:55:09 PM PDT by 4buttons
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