Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Who Are Israelís Friends in the USA?
Israpundit ^ | October 11, 2010

Posted on 10/11/2010 6:26:16 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

On Friday, I looked at the results of a new poll surveying voters’ opinions on Israel and, more generally, the Middle East. While Americans remain overwhelmingly pro-Israel and are troubled by Obama’s approach to the Middle East, there are significant differences between sub-groups of Americans. In this post, I’ll focus on the cross-tabs that highlight the differences in attitudes toward Israel among religious groups and those self-described atheists. The full cross-tabs can be found here.

I’ll begin with a general observation: almost all the support for Israel statistically comes from non-Jews. This is simply a mathematical reality. The poll sampled 1,000 voters, only 1.6 percent of whom were Jewish (slightly below the commonly used 2 percent figure). Fifty-eight percent were Protestant, and 25 percent were Catholic. That means the overwhelming number of those who support Israel, as is the case in the general population, are non-Jews.

However, this doesn’t mean religion is irrelevant. Take the question as to whether voters favor Israel using military force against Iran if sanctions don’t derail its nuclear program. Overall, 58 percent would approve. That number is 72 percent for Jews but nearly as high for born again Christians (67 percent). Among atheists? It drops to 40 percent. This pattern repeats itself throughout the poll.

On the question of how concerned we should be about Israel’s security, 100 percent of Jews said “very” or “somewhat.” The lowest/worst response was 88 percent (still high) from atheists, and the second highest/best response again came from born again Christians, with 94 percent.

On Obama’s handling of our relations with Israel, 52 percent of Jews approve; only atheists, at 61 percent, have a higher approval. Protestants and Catholics rank him in the low 40s, and once again, born-again Christians give him the lowest marks (35 percent). All groups except atheists think by a strong plurality that Obama is harming Israel’s security. If Israel attacked Iran to prevent it from going nuclear, 66 percent of Jews said that would be a “defensive” move. The number for born again Christians is 71 percent.

This vividly illustrates a point that I and others have made for some time: Jews by themselves are a tiny percentage of the population who, on their own, could not sustain national support for Israel. It is by and large the support from the majority of Christians that nurtures the U.S.-Israel relationship. Protestants and Catholics demonstrate solid support for Israel, while born again Christians consistently are the most critical of Obama and the most supportive of Israel. Although the poll doesn’t ask why respondents believe as they do, it’s fair to conclude that a great number of the most resolute non-Jewish supporters (i.e., born again Christians) do so for religious reasons.

And what of the other Americans, religious or not? It’s reasonable to conclude that there is a large segment of Americans who, for reasons entirely distinct from religion and with no personal or ethnic tie to the Jewish state, nevertheless are strongly committed to its security and survival. That is remarkable, a tribute the innate decency and common sense of the American people. They have, despite a barrage of propaganda from Israel’s foes, figured out who are the “good guys” in the Middle East and which country shares our values and concerns.

This data is helpful in rebutting the Israel-haters’s rhetoric railing against the “influence of the Israel lobby.” Their beef is not with Jews (or only with Jews) who support Israel; it is with their countrymen of every faith. For religious reasons or not, the American public hasn’t been swayed by the delegitimizers and Israel-bashers, to the great frustration of those who blame Israel for the woes of the Middle East.

In the next post on the poll, I will look at the politics of the Israel-supporters and -bashers. No surprise to readers of this blog: Democrats and liberals more generally aren’t the mainstay of support for the Jewish state.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: friends; friendsofisrael; friendsofjews; israel; israelfriends; israelsfriends; jewsfriends

1 posted on 10/11/2010 6:26:17 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I wonder if Israel got the best of the jewish population and sent most of the castoffs to new york.


2 posted on 10/11/2010 6:27:54 PM PDT by utherdoul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ExTexasRedhead; little jeremiah; Beckwith; Fred Nerks

Interesting article on anti semitism developing in the USA.

(data based)


3 posted on 10/11/2010 6:32:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: utherdoul
No , I can say as an Ortho Jew that the best perished in the Holocaust. the worst came to America 1880-1910. fortunately the survivors of the Holocaust both in America and Israel are the future of Jewry
4 posted on 10/11/2010 6:39:25 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: utherdoul
No , I can say as an Ortho Jew that the best perished in the Holocaust. the worst came to America 1880-1910. fortunately the survivors of the Holocaust both in America and Israel are the future of Jewry
5 posted on 10/11/2010 6:39:57 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Very informative article, thanks for posting it.It will mean a lot to Jewish Freepers.

I admire Bibi, and personally believe he now occupies the seat of defender of the Westren World, a seat occupied continuously by a US pesident until the current piece of trash took office.

If one compares their respectie speeches to the United Nations Assembly ( You Tube) in 2009, you can clearly see the truth of what I say. Bibi gae a speech very much like Ronald Reagan would have. Obama just fawned and apologized for America’s “history” and greatness, and genuflected to Muslim countries.


6 posted on 10/11/2010 6:39:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The last few years have overwhelmingly shown that the best friends that Israel has right now are in Canada. Now that the children are running the White House, and both houses of Congress, the only adults left are north of the border.


7 posted on 10/11/2010 6:43:59 PM PDT by MarkBsnr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Not Democrats! And not the fake reformists, and secular “Jews”. They aren’t Jews any more...Hell, they aren’t even *human* much less than Chosen any more. They are Sevants of Baal.


8 posted on 10/11/2010 6:58:50 PM PDT by DGHoodini
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Who are Israel's friends in the USA?

*raises hand*
9 posted on 10/11/2010 7:40:35 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DGHoodini
Biblical Christians are uneasy; they know that Historical, institutional Christianity has run it's course and is loosing momentum. They sense in their kishkas that Israel are God's chosen and that, somehow, they are called to defend her. They just don't know how they fit in, i.e. Why G-d has preserved the Jewish people and yet called them (biblical Christians) to be in relationship with Him and with Israel. What then will they do? They will turn to Torah by the millions and their sons and daughters will fight and die defending the Scriptures, the People and the Land of Israel.
10 posted on 10/11/2010 7:41:08 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I am.


11 posted on 10/11/2010 7:51:06 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Freedom has ceased to be a birthright; it has come to mean whatever we are still permitted to do.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Who Are Israel’s Friends in the USA?

I stand with Israel.

12 posted on 10/11/2010 8:37:14 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan; SJackson; left that other site; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; ...
"On Obama’s handling of our relations with Israel, ... and once again, born-again Christians give him the lowest marks (35 percent)."

Hmmph. 35 percent must have been the misguided liberal element.














If you'd like to be on or off this
Christian Supporters of Israel ping list,
please FR mail me ~
  -  -

There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had
spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass. (Joshua 21:45)

Free Republic does not suffer criticism of Jewry ... Stormfront
Letter To The President In Support Of Israel ~
'Final Solution,' Phase 2 ~
Warnings ~
The Nature Of Bruce ~


Pray For The Peace Of Jerusalem [FR]
The Joshua Fund
The Jerusalem Connection
Christians United For Israel
Christian Friends of Israel
Jerusalem Watchman

"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets...."—Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
The Holocaust Chronicle ~
" ... It's time we recognized the nature of the conflict. It's total war and we are all involved. Nobody on our side is exempted because of age, gender, or handicap. The Islamofacists have stolen childhood from the world."—FReeper Retief
"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."—FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."—FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"—Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."




Click The Pic To Donate

13 posted on 10/11/2010 9:19:57 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/cufi/index?tab=articles

http://www.cufi.org
“CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR ISRAEL”


14 posted on 10/11/2010 9:58:09 PM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: utherdoul

I have Jewish friends who voted BO...Union members they will always vote Democrate. They do not follow politics at all and just go with the flow of the Union. Easy to say we have less than a warm friendship when it comes to politics....but it’s pretty good on religious matters.


15 posted on 10/11/2010 10:01:42 PM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan
I am not a spiritual person, but I have stood with Israel and Conservative Republicans since the 1950’s.

It bewilders and demoralizes me that 80% of American Jews stand with the left wing of the Democratic Party.

16 posted on 10/11/2010 10:08:40 PM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DGHoodini

I have to completely distance myself from that comment of yours.


17 posted on 10/11/2010 10:22:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DGHoodini

I have to completely distance myself from that comment of yours. It’s just that He is not yet done and we of all people should know better that when those “Baal” Jews come back to God, it is going to be AMAZING!


18 posted on 10/11/2010 10:31:04 PM PDT by Dogbert41
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Salem

It was a Typo.

It SHOULD read MINUS 35%! LOL.

No, I guess not(sigh). Open Our eyes, Father!


19 posted on 10/12/2010 5:05:35 AM PDT by left that other site (Your MiQ-MaQ Paddy Wacky Bass-Playing Biker Buddy(El Kabong))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

20 posted on 10/12/2010 5:22:36 AM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I stand with Israel!!!!


21 posted on 10/12/2010 5:38:10 AM PDT by GregB (The Sarah Palin snowball express is rolling downhill get behind her or get rolled over!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The Christian support can be attributed to several possible causes:

1. Weak-minded, bitter Christians, clinging to guns and religion, and getting seduced by smooth-talking Jews;
2. An international Christian conspiracy;
3. Racism.

No. 1 doesn’t work, because if they can be seduced one way by smooth-talking Jews, then they can be seduced another way by other smooth-talking ethnics. No. 2 and 3 therefore are most likely. It’s all on account of an international conspiracy of bitter, smooth-talking Christian racists, clinging to guns and religion, and in favor of the oppression of piece-loving Palestinians./sarc


22 posted on 10/12/2010 11:03:04 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I support Israel, but I think we’d be better off as a country if we quit funding both sides of that problem over there. Maybe instead of paying both sides for their failure to resolve their differences, we should hold out the carrot of funding when they demonstrate the ability to resolve their differences.


23 posted on 10/12/2010 11:12:59 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: utherdoul

Self-selection, I like to think.


24 posted on 10/12/2010 4:45:21 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: utherdoul
Only one group of Jews are reliably liberal, the ones descended from those came here from Eastern Europe between 1880 and 1920. Their grandparent and great grandparents were warped the Leo Frank Lynching and Triangle Factory fire into supporting the left and imagining Ameican conservatives as Czarist hordes. Most American Jews are descended from this group. The rest of us have much more sense.
Most Israeli Jews are dwscended from survivors of the Holocaust, or from Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews who fled Muslim violence.
25 posted on 10/12/2010 4:49:35 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Conservative Coulter Fan.
The poll sampled 1,000 voters, only 1.6 percent of whom were Jewish (slightly below the commonly used 2 percent figure)... This vividly illustrates a point that I and others have made for some time: Jews by themselves are a tiny percentage of the population who, on their own, could not sustain national support for Israel. It is by and large the support from the majority of Christians that nurtures the U.S.-Israel relationship. Protestants and Catholics demonstrate solid support for Israel, while born again Christians consistently are the most critical of Obama and the most supportive of Israel.

26 posted on 10/12/2010 5:23:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson