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A Colorful, Costly Dogfight Takes Shape in House Race (Go Lt Col Allen West!)
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 12, 2010 | Michael Phillips

Posted on 10/11/2010 10:26:12 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

A Colorful, Costly Dogfight Takes Shape in House Race

By MICHAEL M. PHILLIPS

DEERFIELD BEACH, Fla.—In 2003, Lt. Col. Allen West forced an Iraqi prisoner to the ground, counted down to zero and fired a pistol over his head to scare him into revealing planned attacks on U.S. troops. The Army relieved him of command.

In ordinary times, such an event might destroy a man's career in public service. But 2010 is no ordinary time, and Mr. West may soon be in command again—this time as a tea-party-backed, Republican congressman from South Florida.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: allenwest; congress; miami; vfw; west

1 posted on 10/11/2010 10:26:18 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

“In ordinary times, such an event might destroy a man’s career in public service.”

In sane times, such an event would have gotten him a medal for saving US lives.

These aren’t sane times, though.


2 posted on 10/11/2010 10:34:20 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
In ordinary times, such an event might destroy a man's career in public service.

The reporter got this backwards. In ORDINARY times, the guy would be a hero. We don't live in ordinary times. We live in marxist, PC, cry baby times. Every once in a while someone gives us a glimpse into ordinary times.

3 posted on 10/11/2010 10:36:30 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: piytar

is the Colonel doing well?...I hope so...


4 posted on 10/11/2010 10:40:06 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Arec Barrwin

His primary opponent has endorsed Klein....I thought the tea party was supposed to be the whiney babies....but Castle,McCollum,Lisa M and now this....We are seeing who the real children are


5 posted on 10/11/2010 10:41:31 PM PDT by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I hope LCAW wins big


6 posted on 10/11/2010 10:42:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: cherry

Last Ras poll I saw had him up by 6 points.


7 posted on 10/11/2010 10:45:38 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: cherry
is the Colonel doing well?...I hope so...

He looked great on Fox today(Cavuto?) He is sharp. He will be a standout in Congress. His demeanor is no nonsense.

8 posted on 10/11/2010 10:45:48 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Arec Barrwin

“Mr. Klein portrays himself as the pragmatic moderate, willing to cross the aisle—or even cross his own president—for his constituents.”

Pragmatic moderate. Ah-huh. Klein has a lifetime ACU rating of...wait for it...1.33. That’s four points lower than Robert Wexler or Alcee Hastings, and surpassed among Florida Democrats only by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.


10 posted on 10/11/2010 10:46:55 PM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

I’m hoping that reporter gets demoted back to the file room.


11 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:39 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Arec Barrwin

Nate Silver has West winning 49.3 to 48.6 on November second....its a 53% chance of turn over for us......its tight so donate!!!!....Ive donated so much lately ill be living on soup and water for about two months but its worth it


12 posted on 10/11/2010 10:49:20 PM PDT by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: piytar
Lt. Col. Allen West forced an Iraqi prisoner to the ground, counted down to zero and fired a pistol over his head to scare him into revealing planned attacks on U.S. troops. The Army relieved him of command.

Only half the story. The other half is that he immediately reported himself to his superiors. While his conduct was against military regulations he left with his integrity and honor. Both of these qualities are in short supply in Washington.

13 posted on 10/11/2010 11:19:26 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
Scaring(but not injuring) the crap (and intel) out of a terrorist is against the rules?

The rules need changing.

14 posted on 10/11/2010 11:22:37 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

Mock executions are expressly forbidden. Those are the rules.


15 posted on 10/11/2010 11:23:55 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Arec Barrwin




VFW PAC unbelievably endorsed the Rat Klein over Lt. Col. West. The corrupt PAC also endorsed Rats Boxer and Kanjorski!


16 posted on 10/11/2010 11:26:08 PM PDT by red flanker
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To: USNBandit

I agree.


17 posted on 10/11/2010 11:28:13 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: USNBandit

Unless its my life he is trying to save, then he can do whatever it takes.


18 posted on 10/11/2010 11:35:01 PM PDT by buggy02 (Never take life seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.)
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To: piytar

It would have been kept hush hush if possible, denied at all governmental levels if not possible.


19 posted on 10/11/2010 11:39:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: red flanker

Aren’t they the one that acknowledge that they only endorse the Dhims this cycle?


20 posted on 10/11/2010 11:47:48 PM PDT by paudio (How could you be an open-minded person if you are a liberal?)
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To: red flanker

Why on earth would the VFW do this???


21 posted on 10/12/2010 12:10:24 AM PDT by Aria ( "Remember, attitudes are contagious, so make sure yours are worth catching." Sarah Palin 9-18-2010)
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To: piytar
“In ordinary times, such an event might destroy a man’s career in public service.” In sane times, such an event would have gotten him a medal for saving US lives. These aren’t sane times, though.

I agree entirely.

22 posted on 10/12/2010 12:11:54 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Aria
Why on earth would the VFW do this???

There's no honor in that decision at all..

VFW = Veterans For Welfare...

23 posted on 10/12/2010 12:47:44 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: red flanker
VFW PAC unbelievably endorsed the Rat Klein over Lt. Col. West. The corrupt PAC also endorsed Rats Boxer and Kanjorski!

I'm a life member of the VFW, but I will never give one cent to the PAC if this is how it wastes its money. There is more to a candidate than his or her stance on veteran's issues. How about America's issues? I'm proud to have served my country and I don't expect anything in return other than elected officials upholding the Constitution that I put my life on the line for.

24 posted on 10/12/2010 1:05:29 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: guerito1

I remember reading about that incident in `03. I didn`t realize West was that guy. I like him even more now!!


25 posted on 10/12/2010 1:35:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

In movies people are allowed to be heros. We watch entire cities shot up by the action hero. In real life America circa 2003, it gets you an honorable discharge from the Army when you get the information needed to save your troops from an ambush without injuring the prisoner.


26 posted on 10/12/2010 3:35:23 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: USNBandit

Mock executions are expressly forbidden

......but target practice isn’t.


27 posted on 10/12/2010 3:35:44 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way")
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To: piytar
Let's be honest here, folks. If Lt. Col. West had been a white guy, his career in public service WOULD be over.

How funny is it to see this guy make so much noise in politics as a Republican candidate?

28 posted on 10/12/2010 3:37:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: hoosierham

Those are indeed part of the ROI.

The problem is our enemy doesn’t have any rules. And the sooner we get someone like Lt. Col. Allen West into office the better. Some would say he was out of line, took unneeded extreme measures etc. I ask...how do you, yes YOU, really know that? He took those extreme measures, got the information we needed, saved lives, and then turned himself in. What he understood was his enemy.

These are not ordinary times and we do not have an ordinary enemy. If President Bush, Clinton, Bush and even going back through to Reagan and Carter...had defined our enemy properly...we would not be needing to discuss people like Lt. Col. Allen West.

Instead, we got in bed with our enemy. And many of those that turned those sheets down have forgotten to get out of the bed. Instead they attempt to soothe things over with political correctness which obscures the ability to define the enemy. They throw in front of us our own Religious Rights and dare us to defile ourselves in defining our enemy.

So when the Holy War comes here and their warriors behead, maim, cloak our women in darkness, rape, murder, and so on will we have anyone with the courage then...to define the enemy? When a nation holds up a National Religion and a standing army (paid by the government) and a holy army (paid by the church...which is national) how should one define the enemy? When the government sends money and books to the church and the church turns out radicalized holy warriors who will fight and die for the national religion...

Is it not that nations government with which we are at war with? Is it not our enemy that hides behind the mask that is called religion? Are not those holy warriors the foot soldiers of that government(s)?

The progressive left has made us vulnerable.

They have challenged us with our own morals and twisted them into their political correct sins.

They have removed our ability to tap our own resources in favor of their cozy bed of sheets. They are like the beaten wife...who won’t save her own life, but will submit to her husband until her very death(kind of apocalyptic eh?).

Lt. Col. Allen West is the interventionist. He is that good friend trying to her life. All she needs is the courage.


29 posted on 10/12/2010 4:19:25 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: red flanker

Their endorsement of these pigs is not worth the paper it is printed on.


30 posted on 10/12/2010 4:28:17 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: piytar

In truth, in sane times, no one would even take notice my FRiend.

W


31 posted on 10/12/2010 5:32:38 AM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

USE THE AMMO the enemy gives you! Print the first article out for those seniors that are not online, email the list, print it, hand it out. Tell folks to go read for themselves. I do, then I tell them that my commie rep Steve Cohen gifted them with the $569 Billion tax hike, and the $8.15 Trillion Medicare gut.

How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion

Health law’s heavy impact by Paul Guppy (Taxes)
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/mar/28/health-laws-heavy-impact/

Monthly premiums to rise for 7 of top 10 Medicare prescription plans in 2011
http://www.startribune.com/business/103642009.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiacyKUnciatkEP7DhUr

Social Security: No 2011 increase expected (COLA)
http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/news/economy/Social_Security_cost_of_living_adjustment/index.htm

No Social Security COLA Expected For 2011 News Expected To Be Bad For Democrats
http://www.kptv.com/politics/25344443/detail.html

They forgot to add this to the “Rest of the Story”

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/22/chain-email/chain-e-mail-says-congress-raised-own-salaries-whi/

Shall we wait to see how the media and the establishment Pubbies handle this one?

Harvard Pilgrim cancels Medicare Advantage plan
http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/09/28/harvard_pilgrim_

Seniors’ coverage options dwindle as Medicare Advantage programs close shop
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-advantage_22bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c912a9.html

Survey in New England Journal of Medicine 46% of US Doctors Will Quit Obamacare Passes http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75

ObamaCare has just made me Sicker!
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/bamcare_has_just_made_me_icker_c1dBRZ6M3yuH27rAVnLsvN

In the notice, EmblemHealth told Gowland, who is healthy, “The proposed rate increase includes two components: a basic increase on your type plan and an increase due to the cost of enhanced benefits required by the new federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”

Mayo clinic stops taking Medicare patients
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004

Principal To Cut Jobs, End Med Insurance Business
http://www.kcci.com/money/25224059/detail.html

Obama: We knew health costs would go up
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/118079-obama-we-knew-health-costs-would-go-up

President Barack Obama insisted he can overhaul the U.S. healthcare system without raising taxes for anyone but the wealthiest Americans

The New Federal Wedding Tax: How Obamacare Would Dramatically Penalize Marriage
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/01/The-New-Federal-Wedding-Tax-How-Obamacare-Would-Dramatically-Penalize-Marriage

Obama: healthcare won’t hike middle class taxes
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58J18320090920

1099: The Trojan Horse within Obamacare
http://palmettoinsider.com/2010/09/21/1099-the-trojan-horse-within-obamacare/

Repeal Obamacare: Small-Business Killer
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38496

Senate Expands IRS Form 1099 Reporting Requirement to Include All Rental Property Owner
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75911

Paperwork nightmare: New 1099 mandate must be repealed
http://billingsgazette.com/news/opinion/guest/article_61e61666-bbc1-11df-b2c3-001cc4c002e0.html

Health care law’s massive, hidden tax change( 1099*s)
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/index.htm

Lost in Taxation, The IRS’s vast new ObamaCare powers.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365223062942574.html?mod=rss_opinion_main


32 posted on 10/12/2010 6:25:17 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: WLR

“In truth, in sane times, no one would even take notice my FRiend.”

On second thought, I have to agree with your take...


33 posted on 10/12/2010 10:36:13 AM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: USNBandit
Sometimes the rules need changing.

I have no problem with scaring the holy crap out of murdering scum that behead reporters,stone rape victims,and want to destroy the U.S.

If the other fellow hits below the belt,pick up a 2x4 and wallop him until he surrenders without condition.

Even FDR understood that demanding their unconditional surrender AND making it happen,was the best way to permanently deal with the Nazis.

34 posted on 10/12/2010 10:36:28 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Arec Barrwin
counted down to zero and fired a pistol over his head to scare him into revealing planned attacks on U.S. troops.

I say: too bad his aim wasn't a bit lower.

35 posted on 10/12/2010 12:05:26 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer
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