Skip to comments.U.S. Alarmed by Harsh Tone of China’s Military
Posted on 10/12/2010 12:37:55 PM PDT by zippythepinhead
BEIJING Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates met his Chinese counterpart, Liang Guanglie, in Vietnam on Monday for the first time since the two militaries suspended talks with each other last winter, calling for the two countries to prevent mistrust, miscalculations and mistakes.
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Obama has our 6.
Our enemies have a window open they will never have again.
Surprising only to those incapable of critical thought.
I know what! Let’s let them steal EVEN MORE of our technology. Or maybe Obama could bring in Clinton to help sell it to them cheap.
“Our enemies have a window open they will never have again.”
I presume you mean between now and the election. It’s October all over again.
Within their own country, the Chinese military are coddled, have great resources, political power, with special rights and privileges beyond those of ordinary people - and they believe their own propoganda. Of course they are arrogant.
All American’s should be worried, very worried.
The scary thing is not China's tone, but that the US is surprised. For several years in response to what should have been an alarming buildup, the Pentagon has either been seeing what they wanted to see and disregarding the big picture, or following political expediency to the letter.
A country doesn't build up it's military the way China has in the last several years unless it has something in mind.
Good opportunity for India and Russia to eat China's lunch.
While Japan & the Phillipines holds their jackets.
Hey, not to worry. I have it on good authority, (free trade proponent freepers), that we have made China LESS of a worry. You see, if we trade with them, and encourage offshoring manufacturing to China, it will raise their standard of living. The Chinese will then see the light, free trade is good for everyone! And, with the process, Americans will be freed up from those dull, meaningless jobs and will be able to pursue more important things.
So, you see. China is a harmless teddy bear. Our good friend, tied to us through economy, and would never harm us. And our people are prosperous, and busily doing more important things than manufacturing stuff we need.
It’s all wonderful.
Bush called the Chinese "rivals" but fell short of treating them as adversaries, even after their little inauguration present of downing a P3 in international airspace. Both presidents signalled weakness.
Obama flashes not just weakness but supine submissiveness. No wonder the Chinese believe their time has come. Expect more aggressiveness, especially around the South China Sea, as China expands its hegemony into southeast Asia and Pacific.
Nothing good about it.
“No problem. Just sell them rights to purchase, and eventually produce, all of our planes, ships, and weapons systems and then they’ll leave us alone. We’ll be their best friends!”
The 11th Fleet is something of an anomaly..
All of the Republican candidates should add the following phrase to their litany of reasons to not elect Democrats:
...and the build-up in aggressive Chinese rhetoric that concerns the Pentagon...
or something like that. No follow-up is necessary. Just lay the idea out there that Bambi and the D’s are concerned, but doing nothing about it.
Who writes these headlines for the NYT?
The Uptown Gay Hiney Slappers?
Or is this phrasing something suggested by the Gaybama administration?
When did the men in American start getting their knickers knotted over “harsh tones”?
You're mixing cliches. The "elephant in the living room" is a huge problem that people ignore until it's too late. The "800 pound gorilla" is the big, bad, boss animal that eats whatever it wants (calls the shots).
That said, you're absolutely right that the Chicoms are the elephant in the living room. We ignore them at our peril.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Keep shopping at Wal-mart folks the Chicoms need your money (to kill your kids). Isn’t it great how we send mountains of $$$ and millions of jobs to China? Way to go Clinton, Bush, Obama!
Well, DUH!! The Brass is just now figuring this out?! We have been saying this for years as they have been building up their strength. I’m just surprised that China has not yet made a move on Taiwan. I thought they would do it once Obama was elected. Oh well, they still have a couple years in which to accomplish that.
There is only one course of action when appeasement doesn't work:
Engage in more appeasment.
the way you described Chinese military, they seem to have the same perks as our government bodies in DC.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates met his Chinese counterpart, Liang Guanglie, in Vietnam on Monday for the first time since the two militaries suspended talks with each other last winter
If we surrender Taiwan now maybe they will forgive all those treasury bonds they own.
Is that our 6? Or 666?
We could sell the chicoms hollywood. Trade them for Taiwan.
We should not fear them. But that doesn’t mean be complacent. Obama sold his own grandma out. He would sell his country out just like he already has.
They need to improve their “Engrish.”
We should be worried if they decide to go to war. America will always be strong. We will face great challenges ahead beyond our comprehension. But we will survive.
Agreed. Keeping in mind that it takes 1.5 Billion Chinese to equal the GDP od 200 million (the Japanese), we should keep things in perspective. There are things a responsible country should do before allowing a dog to bite with impunity. When we see the whites of thier fangs, we need to knock thier face in the dirt, hard. Any other action will be misunderstood to be weakness, thus encouraging more of the same. China is not what they perceive themselves to be. They are itching for a place in the world that they are not yet capable of fulfilling.
Ping...You have had your finger on this pulse for a long time, now. I figured you might want to see this.
In the meantime, we have built their industry from foodstuffs to light bulbs to tracked equipment, rather than insist our own government back off ridiculous moving-target standards without any basis in science so we can build our own. When we can't produce the steel to up-armor humvees fast enough, how in the heck are we going to do full-fledged war production? Not to mention the people we'd need to manufacture things. At least 'Rosie's riveters' were farm gals who knew which end of the pail to pour out of.
Computerized robot controlled production is dandy--if you can get the raw materials and rare earths to make things go--and no one EMPs the grid.
We've been dashing around with the back flap open on our industrial union suit for far too long.
I think before the chins would even consider taking on the US they will need to get some experience. I would look for them to pick a fight with one of their neighbors (except Taiwan) to get a win under their belts and build confidence. They realize that the days of throwing bodies at the enemy are over even with a billion people. I don’t think they will go after Taiwan before they chalk up a victory somewhere. Secondly, I think they have doubts about whether or not other countries in the region would stay out of a fight with Taiwan. One on one they could probably take most with exceptions of Japan, S. Korea, Australia and even Taiwan. But if these countries collectively stand up to them the chins would have a real problem on their hands.
Japan better be concerned about China’s military. They are closer than we are.
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