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Biden: GOP could challenge Social Security in court
The Hill ^ | 10-12-10 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 10/12/2010 1:23:40 PM PDT by Justaham

Vice President Biden suggested Monday evening that Republicans might try to challenge Social Security in court in the same manner they've challenged healthcare reform.

The vice president asserted that the GOP could wage a challenge to Social Security's constitutionality over the entitlement program's requirement that all taxpayers participate.

Biden noted at a fundraiser for Dan Onorato, the Democratic candidate for governor of Pennsylvania, that "Tom Corbett is one of a dozen Republican attorneys general actually suing” to challenge the healthcare law, referring to the state's attorney general and GOP candidate for governor.

"I wonder if next it’s Social Security," Biden added, according to a pool report. "We mandate you do that, too.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; biteme; joebiden; slowjoe; socialsecurity; vp
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To: All Blue State
AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!

I'm sure Congress would love it if they could get away with it, but that's nowhere near to being true.

21 posted on 10/12/2010 1:35:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: sten

Silly Sten, we don’t live under the protections of the Constitution anymore. Where have you been?


22 posted on 10/12/2010 1:41:08 PM PDT by CherylBower (Fire the liars)
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To: Sacajaweau

It floors me that this moron is able to walk and breath at the same time.

Mac daddy is he worst POTUS and biden is the dumbest VPOTUS.

The perfect pair.


23 posted on 10/12/2010 1:45:30 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Justaham

yes woe could and we’d have a strong basis for doing so. However the GOP is too spineless to even consider such a sensible and possibly nation saving move.


24 posted on 10/12/2010 1:51:07 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Justaham
"I wonder if next it’s Social Security," Biden added, according to a pool report. "We mandate you do that, too.”

That's your selling point? How far in debt is Socialist Security?

25 posted on 10/12/2010 1:51:45 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Justaham

Not going to happen.

It’s the demwits that have thrown granny and gramps under the bus big time with OBAMACARE!


26 posted on 10/12/2010 1:51:45 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Non-Sequitur
There's a minimum 5 year service time to qualify for retirement, provided you meet the age limit ~ but that doesn't pay very much compared to a FULL CAREER of 40 years.

Congress Critters do earn 2 years service time for retirement for each 1 year served in Congress (or other federal service).

27 posted on 10/12/2010 1:52:35 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Justaham
The Dimwits have failed to deliver COLA for two years in a row because of their excessive spending, and now Biden delivers this scare tactic?

The COLA is directly calculated from the previous year's Consumer Price Index averaged over July through September. The summer of 2008 was when gasoline prices broke $4 and natural gas and food spiked similarly. By Christmas 2008 I paid only $1.41 for gasoline. The following year the CPI was lower than 2008, so the COLA would have been negative except for rules prohibiting a reduction in payments forcing the the drop to be carried over to future years.

If the months used to calculated the COLA had been October through November (avoiding the summer 2008 spike), the 2009, 2010 and 2011 SS increases would have been about 1.5% each year instead of 5.8%, 0% and 0% for those three years.

28 posted on 10/12/2010 1:53:15 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: utherdoul

What a great idea, Joe!

There really isn’t any Constitutional authority for social security, either.

So... you’re saying that we shouldn’t challenge ANY federal program based on Constitutional authority (or lack thereof)?


29 posted on 10/12/2010 1:57:24 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Justaham

30 posted on 10/12/2010 1:58:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: All Blue State

What we really need is a sort of giant Fly paper strips with some really sticky stuff on it. Make it smell like money and they would be stuck all over it, they simply wouldn’t be able to resist. Then you could stand around and watch them struggle and starve......


31 posted on 10/12/2010 1:58:13 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: Justaham

I wouldn’t mid opting out of SS. The Amish can do so. The Amish and Muslims can also opt out of the 0bamacare mandates. But SS is actually a real tax, so this idea of a “trust fund” was always a gimmick to get the public to go along. Because they lack uniformity, and because they were not considered taxes in the law itself, it will be difficult to make a rational case that the mandates are tax. The DOJ has already backed out of the commerce clause argument for the VA challenge.


32 posted on 10/12/2010 2:02:41 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Justaham

It must be getting harder and harder to scare the seniors with the Social Security lies...the lengths to which they must now go, outrageous.


33 posted on 10/12/2010 2:03:15 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: CherylBower

kinda my point

of course, if we don’t live under the Constitution, then the only right they have to make any demands of me are under the threat of violence

otherwise known as tyranny


34 posted on 10/12/2010 2:03:59 PM PDT by sten
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To: Justaham

What really takes gall here is that the Administration under which the VP serves is currently holding hearings to determine whether they can confiscate all private retirement investments and force everyone into a government controlled plan. This is being proposed as a means to “bail out” the underfunded and bankrupt public union pension funds.


35 posted on 10/12/2010 2:13:01 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Joe is such an idiot sometimes.....more often than not...

Yeah, sometimes his gums get to spontaneously flapping and the weirdest random Pelosi starts coming out.

36 posted on 10/12/2010 2:24:17 PM PDT by Sparticus (November - no unrung doorbells!!)
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To: Justaham

Poor thing, he’s off his meds again.


37 posted on 10/12/2010 2:28:14 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Justaham

Unfortunately, we can’t sue the government to block a tax. They have a right under the constitution to tax us.

In fact, if they had simply set a large tax for “health care”, and then provided an equally large tax credit for purchasing health care, they could have effectively mandated health care for everybody, in an unfortunate perfectly legal way.

They do that with all sorts of stuff. They didn’t “require” anybody to buy a hybrid car, but they overtaxed everybody, and then gave tax credits for those people who bought a hybrid.

But with health care, they made it a law that you had to buy health care insurance, and if you didn’t, they imposed penalties.


38 posted on 10/12/2010 2:58:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Justaham
The judicial branch had a chance to strike down Social Security and it dropped the ball. It will take a Republican Congress to end it and I don't think it can be done overnight. I think it will need to be phased out over a 3-5 year period.

Seniors will need a year or two to make other arrangements.

39 posted on 10/12/2010 3:02:56 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Justaham

We’re Americans, we have no standing in court.


40 posted on 10/12/2010 8:11:01 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Liberal homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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