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Article 32 Hearing For Ft. Hood Killer Off To Rocky Start
Military Corruption Dot Com ^ | 10-13-2010 | Major Glenn MacDonald US Army (ret.)

Posted on 10/13/2010 12:09:48 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler

ARTICLE 32 HEARING OFF TO ROCKY START FOR KILLER - MAJ. NIDAL HASAN - WHO GUNNED DOWN AND KILLED 13 PEOPLE AT FT. HOOD, TEXAS LAST NOVEMBER - JUDGE (COL) JAMES POHL WILL RULE ON MOTION BY DEFENSE FOR DELAY - COL MIKE MULLIGAN OF THE PROSECUTION FUMES DEFENSE TEAM "HAS HAD MONTHS TO PREPARE" IN WHEELCHAIR - A KNIT CAP ON HIS BALD HEAD

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For nearly a year now, crazed killer, Maj. Nidal "Allahu Akbar" Hasan, has been drawing full pay and benefits as a major and Army doctor. The "horrible headshrinker" may get some more time to suck up over $6000 a month in Uncle Sam's greenbacks, if his attorney, LTC Kris Prippe, gets his way.

The field-grade attorney whined in court this week he "needed more time" to prepare his defense of the monster sitting nearby in a wheelchair, a knit cap pulled down to his ears, as if the psycho slayer sought to block out hearing about his evil crimes. The lead prosecutor, COL Mike Mulligan, was not amused. "We oppose any further delays," he said. "You've had plenty of time to prepare your case."

He's right. Hasan went on his maniacal rampage last November at Fort Hood, Tex., killing 13 persons (12 soldiers and one civilian). Nearly a year is more than sufficient to get ready for the preliminary hearing. Sources say the court-martial itself is expected to last several weeks. Many victims wounded in the fusillade of bullets are eager to get up on the witness stand and describe the terror they felt as Hasan blasted away at his innocent victims.

HOPEFULLY, REQUEST FOR DELAY WILL NOT BE APPROVED

A ruling on Prippe's request could come momentarily. Judge COL James L. Pohl has said as much. The Article 32 is purely prelude to the big show - the court martial. No way, can even the gutless and politically correct brass, (see our story on foolish Gen. Casey in RSB below), avoid a court-martial on this terroristic crime.

As far as we are concerned, the sooner this shameful shrink is put to death, the better. There are several staff members here at MilitaryCorruption.com who would like to participate in Hasan's execution. Too bad the Army can't dig up Florida's "Ole Sparky," the infamous electric chair that often malfunctioned and fried the chair's occupants like crispy critters.

Giving Hasan the death penalty would send a message "loud and clear" that we will NEVER tolerate such a bloodbath on one of our military bases again. Too bad we couldn't bust and court-martial the wimps and PC-officers who allowed Hasan to get as far as he did. They too, share in the guilt of the "Fort Hood Massacre."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanjihad; article32; crime; domesticterrorism; fifthcolumn; forthood; fthood; fthoodmassacre; hasan; islamicsupremacist; militantislam; military; nadilhassan; politicalcorrectness; texas; traitor; treason; war; warcrime
Article 13 (pre-trial punishment) is what keeps Major Hasan on the payroll. Are there any other snakes out there ready to strike---particulary in aircraft cockpits, nuclear weapon storage bunkers or close proximiity to the leadership? Does anybody care?
1 posted on 10/13/2010 12:09:54 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Funny how other members of our military who are accused of far lesser warcrimes are brought to trial much quicker and with less sympathy.


2 posted on 10/13/2010 12:13:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Too bad we couldn't bust and court-martial the wimps and PC-officers who allowed Hasan to get as far as he did. They too, share in the guilt of the "Fort Hood Massacre."

It was criminal negligence for the politically correct officers to permit a known terrorist sympathizer who'd made death threats against all non-muslims to remain in our military. He had communicated with the enemy and they called that "outreach". I call it treason.

3 posted on 10/13/2010 12:16:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Ah, this situation is probably why the media is now absolutely obssessed with The Great Miner Rescue.


4 posted on 10/13/2010 12:29:09 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Get a rope, hang him high, watch him swing, and let him rot.


5 posted on 10/13/2010 12:36:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

“crazed killer,”

FALSE! This was cold, calculated murder inspired by his Islamic religion.


6 posted on 10/13/2010 12:42:34 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Attacking LTC Prippe for doing his job as a military defense counsel is a cheap shot. It’s what the ARMY pays him to do, and what the military ethics rules require: to present a vigorous defense, even if the tactic may seem frivolous to you. A Grostefan complaint (ineffective assistance of counsel) is an easy way to put off the inevitable for months after the court martial. Why the hell give Maj Hassan any more grounds for appeal than absolutely necessary?

Colonel, USAFR
Former Area Defense Counsel
Former Circuit Defense Counsel


7 posted on 10/13/2010 12:44:37 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr

Firing Squad.


8 posted on 10/13/2010 12:53:03 PM PDT by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: a fool in paradise
This puke was working at Walter Reed Hospital in the outpatient mental health unit at the very same time the Washington Post had a number of reporters on the scene interviewing people.

I would expect the prosecution to bring charges against one or more of the Washington Post writers who knew about this guy's criminal plans but who did not report them.

9 posted on 10/13/2010 12:54:33 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: muawiyah
I would expect the prosecution to bring charges against one or more of the Washington Post writers who knew about this guy's criminal plans but who did not report them.

Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings have said that they would not thwart such an attack if they had foreknowledge of it. Their "first duty is to remain impartial".

There is a youtube clip of them making just such a claim at some sort of townhall forum.

10 posted on 10/13/2010 12:58:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: spokeshave

No argument.


11 posted on 10/13/2010 1:21:18 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: spokeshave

...although I do have a copy of the old AFMAN (Air Force Manual) that gives instructions on the proper construction and operation of a gallows.

Colonel, USAFR


12 posted on 10/13/2010 1:22:39 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Tea Party Reveler
" Are there any other snakes out there ready to strike---"

Just like turning over a rotten log...the government is...

13 posted on 10/13/2010 1:24:30 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: jagusafr

You’re correct of course. Its what any good lawyer would do: more time, motion to dismiss, jury selection (not an option here...), etc.

Would folks want THEIR lawyer to do anything less?


14 posted on 10/13/2010 1:31:01 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

As to procedure, be prepared for what seems like a miscarriage of justice, but what is in reality a very intentional redirection.

It is based on the idea that while the military frequently issues the death penalty, it almost never carries it out, because the President himself must sign off on it, after an outrageously protracted appeals process.

However, the State of Texas is not so hobbled in its pursuit of justice.

So, because he killed both military personnel and civilians, on a military base, the Army has “first crack” at criminally trying him. However, when they are done, he will be given a second trial, by the State of Texas.

But this presents a problem. Because once convicted of his military offenses, he would typically be sent to the military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where he would serve his time before being returned to Texas.

This is problematic, as you can see. So it is up to the military to find a way to convict him of his crimes, so that he cannot be released, no matter what else happens; yet to do it in such as way that he can be expeditiously turned over to the State of Texas.

Because once in the embrace of the loving arms of Texas, he is a dead man, and he will be executed soon enough so that everyone remembers why, instead of dying of old age in Kansas.


15 posted on 10/13/2010 1:32:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: a fool in paradise
Whatever Mike and Peter had to say simply doesn't count when they are on a military base ~ which Walter Reed is.

The "posties" were under the jurisdiction of the military authority as they visited.

16 posted on 10/13/2010 1:34:51 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: muawiyah

http://newsbusters.org/node/4479
Mike Wallace: Journalist First, American Second (with Vintage Video)
By Brent Baker | March 16, 2006

...on an edition of the PBS panel series Ethics in America, devoted to war coverage, which was taped at Harvard in late 1987, Mike Wallace proclaimed that if he were traveling with enemy soldiers he would not warn U.S. soldiers of an impending ambush.

“Don’t you have a higher duty as an American citizen to do all you can to save the lives of soldiers rather than this journalistic ethic of reporting fact?”, moderator Charles Ogletree Jr. suggested.

Without hesitating, Wallace responded: “No, you don’t have higher duty...you’re a reporter.”

When Brent Scrowcroft, the then-future National Security Adviser, argued that “you’re Americans first, and you’re journalists second,” Wallace was mystified by the concept, wondering “what in the world is wrong with photographing this attack by [the imaginary] North Kosanese on American soldiers?”


17 posted on 10/13/2010 1:42:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Tea Party Reveler
WHO GUNNED DOWN AND KILLED 13 PEOPLE AT FT. HOOD, TEXAS

He killed 14 people, not 13. Everyone needs to start getting this right.

18 posted on 10/13/2010 1:45:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without Christianity there is no America.)
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Lucky for him he didn't kill any Muslims.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 10/13/2010 1:52:17 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: a fool in paradise
Wallace forgot that when traveling with enemy troops you become part of the target zone.

It's possible that he couldn't actually imagine himself traveling with enemy troops. Can you imagine him trying an ambush interview of an SS colonel?

20 posted on 10/13/2010 1:59:22 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

NEVER blame the defense attorney. That person has an obligation for the MOST vigorous and effective defense possible, no matter who the client. Not an easy job, because of the obvious moral conflicts one will have.

If there is fault, it is to the Judge and to the system. But more to the Judge, for even a Judge in bad system must act to alleviate or nullify the great damages a bad system has. Consequently, to be a good judge in bad system is a Herculean task almost all fail to complete. Still, the Judge bears the fault, even if it is the system which needs correction.


21 posted on 10/13/2010 1:59:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: muawiyah

“Can you imagine him trying an ambush interview of an SS colonel?”

Yeah, I would have liked to see him try with the likes of Joachim Peiper:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Peiper


22 posted on 10/13/2010 2:08:04 PM PDT by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: a fool in paradise
"Funny how other members of our military who are accused of far lesser warcrimes are brought to trial much quicker and with less sympathy."

And that's the reason that that is so. The "lower" the crime, the easier it is to get the thing kicked off, to get a deal for a guilty plea, or to have the offenses handled in an alternate manner.

Generally, around here at Fort Hood, the more serious the crime, the longer it takes to get to court (or even to the Article 32). Oft-times, there are prosecution delays for investigatory reasons .. to allow CID or MPI to conclude their investigations, to ensure that lab work has been done at USACIL, to ensure that all of the witnesses and evidence are lined up, prepped, and ready to go.

However, most of the delays are defense delays for case preparation .. and the more serious the case, the longer the case preparation usually is.

As a Fort Hood court reporter, I see this all of the time. In this particular case, I'm not overly concerned or bothered about the delays. The investigating officer doesn't want to screw up on this, and the easiest way to do so is to force the defense to the proceedings before they claim that they are ready. As an investigating officer, COL Pohl's decisions can be appealed any number of ways, further delaying the proceedings and possibly polluting the processing of the case.

I've said all along that I don't believe that the actual court proceedings will kick off until sometime during the summer of next year (if even then; it may be the autumn). Hasan is not going anywhere: he's paralyzed and being held in the Bell County Jail ... not quite a Mexican jail, but not one of the shining lights of confinement facilities. His money, I'm sure, is pretty much all going to pay for Mr. Galligan, his civilian attorney .. who is notorious around here, even in the smallest of cases, for delay after delay.

All-in-all, this case isn't going anywhere fast. By the time it's held and the inevitable appeals go up the chain, it could very well be President Palin who will be making the decision as to whether he will be executed or not. Which, in and of itself, is a pretty comforting thought: the longer the delays, the more likely that the Moslem-in-Chief will not be making any appellate decisions in the case.

23 posted on 10/13/2010 2:21:12 PM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: a fool in paradise

Like I recall Col Lakin. And him being threatened with being “tazed” and thrown in the van.I remember Army Sp.Michael G.New before him discharged for refusing to illegally alter his BDU
and treated like a slacker for honoring his oath.


24 posted on 10/13/2010 2:24:39 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: jagusafr

Drive On-Sir! T’anks for your most excellent reply


25 posted on 10/13/2010 2:26:52 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

another worthy reply—T’anks. But if I might ask in my fashion would it be impolite for me to make Mr.Hasan a little blanket
to make him more comfortable in his chair.I know a guy does some crazy stuff with pigskin...just asking.


26 posted on 10/13/2010 2:31:38 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: jagusafr

agreed Sir, we dont want to leave grounds for appeal...but really, a year to form a defense for essentially ‘pre-trial’ ??? what can he possibly use as a defense ???


27 posted on 10/13/2010 5:49:29 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: jagusafr
Too bad you JAGS weren't at Ft Hood that day! You are hated by the troops because of your unjust harassment of the real warriors like the SEALS, Col. Chessani, Lt. Pantano and all the other real warriors. You desk jockey office weenie JAG types infest the military and you are out of control! Military Corruption Dot Com helped expose your pals General Fiscus and Colonel Murphy——no wonder you are pissed. Too bad! Enjoy your comeuppance. The Air Force JAGS are the worst and the most corrupt. I liked what happened to Captain Kaw! I helped arrange that one too! Who's next? YOU! Paybacks are a bitch JAG!
http://www.MilitaryCorrution.com/soundoff4.htm
28 posted on 10/13/2010 9:11:57 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Wow - really? Son, your ignorance and bitterness are showing. I know Mike Murphy and he got what he deserved - initiated by the JAG Corps and stymied by the White House, which refused to release his records and prevented a true sentence from being handed down. He still retired as a 1Lt. I knew former Major General and now Colonel Fiscus and he got better than he deserved - NOT because of the JAG Corps, which recommended an Article 32 hearing, but because of a 4-star line officer, who offered an Art 15 nonjudicial punishment. As far as my personal record goes, TAKE YOUR BEST SHOT.

JAGs are line officers first, and THEN judge advocates. As a class, they are honorable, ethical and extremely competent. We could argue for days about ROEs and RUF - I probably come down much closer to your point of view than that of the headquarters types.

Have a great Air Force day, TPR.

Colonel, USAFR


29 posted on 10/14/2010 5:59:42 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Does anybody care?

So long as Monday Night Football is not interferred with, most will not care.And probably don't want to hear about it.

30 posted on 10/14/2010 6:13:57 AM PDT by sport
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Does anybody care?

So long as Monday Night Football is not interferred with, most will not care.And probably don't want to hear about it.

31 posted on 10/14/2010 6:14:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: a fool in paradise

Well one thing for sure, he did not get where he was in a vaccumm. He all but tool an ad out in the newspaper stating what his intentions were. In my opinion, not that anyone cares,the ones that made possible for him to get to where he was should be court martialed also. The blood of his victims is on their heads equally. For with their paving the way, he would not have been a position to carry out his deed.


32 posted on 10/14/2010 6:23:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: The Comedian

You better not give a muslim so much as a dirty look. Or say you intend to burn some toilet paper a/k/a aquran.


33 posted on 10/14/2010 6:29:15 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Let the guilty face a wrongful death civil trial for which they are personally financially accountable for their deeds.

Defund the Left. Political correctness is killing this country.

The meme is that as tragic as it was to see 4 dozen people gunned down, 25 percent of whom died of their injuries. It would somehow be “more tragic” to take efforts to prevent such domestic terrorism in the future. The system worked. We can absorb a terrorist attack. This wasn’t terrorism, it was just PRE-tramatic stress syndrome... it was a case of workplace related violence TOTALLY unrelated to militant Islam... < /liberal talking points >


34 posted on 10/14/2010 7:38:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: a fool in paradise

“It was criminal negligence for the politically correct officers to permit a known terrorist sympathizer who’d made death threats against all non-muslims to remain in our military. He had communicated with the enemy and they called that “outreach”. I call it treason.”

How foolish you are.

Had any of the officers above hasan done anything (a bad eval, an ass chewing, anything), hasan would have walked into the Military Equal Opportunity (the DoD PC police) office and claim “victim status” and those officers careers would be over. They knew it and hasan knew they knew it.

In the current PC culture of the DoD the only people who would have been kicked out was anyone who reported hasan’s activities.

Gen Casey’s statement regarding “diversity” ensured that no one in the Army would ever consider reporting a muslim as a possible security threat.


35 posted on 10/18/2010 12:52:35 PM PDT by ijrazz
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To: ijrazz

And a change in policy from “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” will see the same flood of “past victims’ claims” and fastracked quota promotions for homosexuals.


36 posted on 10/19/2010 7:34:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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