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'Dual flush' toilets among conservation proposals OK'd by NYC Council (Change toliet, It's the law!)
SiLive ^ | 10/13/2010 | Peter N. Spencer

Posted on 10/14/2010 6:56:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Flush Twice! It's a long way to D.C.!

and yeah , I know this is going on in new York!

61 posted on 10/14/2010 9:38:19 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What distinguishes an incandescent socket from a CFL socket? (Serious question...)


62 posted on 10/14/2010 9:39:22 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“When does it stop? Does it stop when we micromanage every minute facet of our lives?”

Nope! Once they get into every aspect of your life they’ll find new ways, new mandates, new obligations, new punishments for noncompliance. Think of the future as a boot, endlessly trampling a human face.


63 posted on 10/14/2010 9:44:39 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: TXnMA

According to this site :

http://energystar.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/energystar.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2558&p_created=1148314428

Incandescent light bulbs work by heating a tungsten filament, or wire, until it glows. This is what produces the light you see. Unfortunately, 90% of the energy used to generate that light is wasted as heat, making incandescent bulbs a very inefficient way to light your home.

CFLs, on the other hand, create a chemical reaction among gasses located inside the glass tube, causing phosphors to illuminate.ENERGY STAR qualified CFLs provide bright, warm light and use 75% less energy, produce 75% less heat, and lasts up to 10 times longer.


64 posted on 10/14/2010 9:45:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
No lessons on bulb mechanics needed. (I'm a physical chemist with an electronics R&D background.)

I have and use both types of bulbs.

You implied that wiring/sockets for the two types were not the same. Again, What is the difference?

65 posted on 10/14/2010 10:08:44 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

http://www.beaconlighting.com.au/energy_faqs_answers.php

EXCERPT

Q: Can I replace incandescent lights with CFLs?

A: CFLs are available to fit most of the common household light fittings but not all. New CFLs are being developed and tested for other lighting applications and will gradually become available.

Q: Do I need to rewire my house to accommodate CFLs?

A: Incandescent lamps can be directly replaced with CFLs, however replacement of low voltage halogen downlights requires the services of an electrician.

Q: Are CFL’s compatible with my current light fittings and what base connections do they come in?

A: In most cases you will be able to directly replace all globes throughout your home with CFLs, they do come in a wide range of base types including SBC (B15), SES (E14), ES (E27) and BC (B22), they are also now available in GU10 and GX53 to replace 240 volt downlights and spotlights.

However, there is currently no direct replacement for the low voltage (12 volt) downlight globe as a CFL, we anticipate this will happen in the short future and for now we recommend using 35 watt IRC lamps from a reputable brand. The 35watt IRC will give you the same amount of light as your current 50 watt globe, and will save 30% off your lighting electricity costs. So it’s very easy to make savings on electricity and greenhouse gas emissions today.

Q: Is the mercury found in CFLs dangerous?
A: The trace amounts of mercury sealed within glass tubing in CFLs is not dangerous to users when the CFL is in tact or in use because no mercury is released.

However mercury is a toxic substance therefore it’s important that CFLs are handled carefully and disposed of responsibly.

Q: What if I break a CFL?

A: If you break a CFL you can release mercury into the atmosphere. Gently sweep up the glass fragments and use a damp cloth to pick up fine particles. If the breakage is on carpet, use sticky tape then a damp cloth to clean up the debris prior to vacuuming. Place all debris into a sealed plastic bag for disposal and ventilate the room where possible.


66 posted on 10/14/2010 10:16:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Crap in ziplocks and mail them to the City Council!!!


67 posted on 10/14/2010 10:20:04 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: crusty old prospector

Since when is there 2 kinds of waste in a URINAL?


68 posted on 10/14/2010 10:23:47 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cripplecreek

I still contend that Old Man Kohler did all the engineering & R & D on toilets when he was funning his foundry.

Making decisions on paper doesn’t change basic physics.

They are forgetting to tell you that a source of the compressed air for a faster flush is also required. Aren’t you really eager to have an AIR COMPRESSOR inside your house/apartment?


69 posted on 10/14/2010 10:28:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cripplecreek

I still contend that Old Man Kohler did all the engineering & R & D on toilets when he was funning his foundry.

Making decisions on paper doesn’t change basic physics.

They are forgetting to tell you that a source of the compressed air for a faster flush is also required. Aren’t you really eager to have an AIR COMPRESSOR inside your house/apartment?


70 posted on 10/14/2010 10:28:44 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: “If it’s yellow
Let it mellow
What the heck does “let it mellow” mean? How yellow should it be before we flush it?

Your decision. You're using a gallon of water each time, so when you flush after every use, it starts to add up. This is especially so when you're in desert country or anywhere you pump your own water. In rainy areas I wouldn't worry about it.

Out here in Arizona, even though we're on a regular system, the "yellow" gets pretty bright - until the wife finds out. ;-)

71 posted on 10/14/2010 10:38:10 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: SeekAndFind

“wasted as heat,”

Nope! At night and in the winter when it’s dark and you have the lights on, that heat warms the room. Incandescents make sense for residences. Electric heat is very efficient since all losses show up as heat.

The lights that illuminate the White House at night waste elecricity and heat, though- it goes into the air, causing global warming and it melts the polar bears.


72 posted on 10/14/2010 10:41:07 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a drop in the bucket (pun intended) compared to the water lost because the tunnels bringing it from upstate are ancient. The city estimates it loses 20% of it in transmission. All this tinkering will be for naught when the 3rd tunnel is complete.


73 posted on 10/14/2010 11:19:18 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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This is a drop in the bucket (pun intended) compared to the water lost because the tunnels bringing it from upstate are ancient. The city estimates it loses 20% of it in transmission. All this tinkering will be for naught when the 3rd tunnel is complete.


74 posted on 10/14/2010 11:19:25 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: SeekAndFind
How's THIS for water-efficient?


75 posted on 10/14/2010 8:31:14 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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