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To: stormer

“You do know there were people named Rodriquez and Garcia living in what became the United States long before people named Smith and Jone.”

Oh yeah?

Which Spanish colony occupied one of the original 13? Who displaced it?

Since obviously there were no Spanish colonies amongst the original 13 British colonies, which became the US of A...your statement is demonstrably false.

In fact, Britain, and by extension “what became the United States” was nearly continually at war with the Spanish. There were virtually no Spaniards amongst the original colonies...there were certainly no Spanish colonies among the 13 colonies which “became the United States.”

Now, of course there were Hispanics living in areas that later joined/were absorbed into the USA. But the original 13 had nothing to do with Spain, Spaniards didn’t inhabit the colonies, had never inhabited the colonies, and we owe Hispanics nothing for the founding of the United States.


12 posted on 10/14/2010 9:13:40 AM PDT by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts; stormer
“You do know there were people named Rodriquez and Garcia living in what became the United States long before people named Smith and Jone.”

Oh yeah?

Which Spanish colony occupied one of the original 13? Who displaced it?

Since obviously there were no Spanish colonies amongst the original 13 British colonies, which became the US of A...your statement is demonstrably false.


Spike, Spike, poor Spike. Learn to read English. "in what became the United States" doesn't mean exclusively "the original 13 colonies." It means, "in any place that at some point became part of the United States." Try California, Texas, the rest of the southwest, including Colorado, and Florida (as well as Puerto Rico and, for a short while, the Philippines).
13 posted on 10/14/2010 9:19:22 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Spike Knotts; stormer

My kids have ancestors who came on the Mayflower in 1620. They also have ancestors with Hispanic surnames from New Mexico who lived there since the 1500’s.

Those with Hispanic surnames also never lived in the State of Mexico.


14 posted on 10/14/2010 9:21:36 AM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: Spike Knotts

Don’t let the ‘Spanish spoken in the USA before English’ crowd get you down. That’s McCain speak.

Not one of the current immigrant crowd EVER had ancestors on any part of the USA. The few that were here became AMERICANS and stayed here, mostly brought by Spanish missionaries. Unlike the Mexican illegal alien of today, they didn’t want any part of Mexico, and didn’t seek to bring it here.

Mr. Reconquista, Show me yours and I’ll show you mine!

Quote from a Latino who feels this country should be his... “There will never be justice because we were displaced of our lands and until our proper identification is returned back us to, our lands will never be returned to us. But at least return us our identity. We are indigenous people to this land.”

Really? Well, Mr. Reconquista, show me yours and I’ll show you mine.

Mexicans illegally in this country had no ancestors who lived in these United States. I’ve offered the challenge to hundreds of them. The handful of Mexicans who lived here when the US bought that land from Mexico left no descendants in Mexico, especially the southern area and Central America where most illegals now come from. NO, they became AMERICANS. Their progeny are citizens.

This country is sacred land to we NATIVE born citizens, most of us with long historical ancestry. We don’t take lightly being told we don’t belong here, but you invaders do.

I have family who pioneered, built and died defending this country, many were indigenous as you claim to be, buried in Massachusetts, New York, Washington DC, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri, Georgia, Arkansas,Tennessee, Oklahoma Indian Territory, Texas, Kansas, Oregon, California, Arizona, New Mexico, South Carolina, North Carolina, Utah. There are a couple buried in Mexico.

Now, show me yours. Where do your ancestors rest?

Know this, we will protect this sacred ground. There are millions more of us than you and you can’t have enough anchor babies to change it before my fellow Americans get enough of your “attitude”. Go back to the third world you wish to impose on us and take your dream of colonizing my country with you. The sooner the better.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/10/mr-reconquista-show-me-yours-and-ill.html


17 posted on 10/14/2010 9:30:26 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Spike Knotts

Don’t be an anti-Hispanic douche.


18 posted on 10/14/2010 9:33:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: Spike Knotts

LOL! Geographically challenged, are we? As has been pointed out, I never said anything about the original colonies - but let’s ignore that for now. The oldest European-founded city in the US is St. Augustine, Florida, founded 1565 by (gasp) Spaniard, Pedro Menendez de Avilez (note the Hispanic name). Of course if you were from El Pueblo Nuestra Señora Reina de los Ángeles de Porciúncola - oops, I mean Los Angeles - you might have a better idea about your nation’s history. Or San Francisco, El Paso, San Antonio, the San Juan Islands, Montana, the Sierra Nevada, Las Vegas... I could go on.


24 posted on 10/14/2010 9:50:25 AM PDT by stormer
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