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Jihadist Infiltration On Capitol Hill?
The Hayride ^ | 15 Oct 10 | Christopher Holton

Posted on 10/15/2010 6:24:02 AM PDT by LSUfan

Jihadist organizations, including Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood, have infiltrated America and are carrying out successful influence operations directed at our government and media.

Judging from the results, our media is both clueless and sympathetic to the Jihadists’ efforts and our government is so eaten up with political correctness that our elected officials seem powerless to do anything about what amount to enemy espionage and influence operations inside of the halls of power.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; groundzeromosque; homegrownjihad; immigration; importingterror; invasion; islam; islamiceducation; jihad; jihadinamerica; koran; military; mohammedanism; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; nymosque; obama; palin; quran; religion; sharia; stealthjihad; terrorism; treason; usflag; wot

1 posted on 10/15/2010 6:24:06 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Another reason why November is so important. Our politicians need to understand that if another attack from muslims comes to the US, the people will, most likely, rise up to such an extent that should make every muslim in the US be very, very worried. We need to purge all influence of the muslim world from our government and do it now.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 6:39:10 AM PDT by RC2
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To: LSUfan

LOL. You can’t really believe this can you?

Sadly I really think you do.


3 posted on 10/15/2010 6:59:08 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Did you click on the links within the article? Some might be iffy, but others have pretty good factual basis. And it IS a fact that many in our government, whether part of a larger plot or not, are very supportive of our enemies, with lots of ground support from the media and celebrity class.


4 posted on 10/15/2010 7:06:07 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: LSUfan

Close enough.

If not Al Qaeda, there’s always Grover Norquist.


5 posted on 10/15/2010 7:10:58 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: MadIsh32

I sure as hell do. Or what was the FBI doing running a Muslim Brotherhood stooge through an Anti-Terrorism center?


6 posted on 10/15/2010 7:14:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: MadIsh32
LOL. You can’t really believe this can you?

Are you sad and clueless, or something worse? That is the only question here.

7 posted on 10/15/2010 7:18:31 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MizSterious

I did

Its all a bunch of guilt by association. By the same context, George W Bush is a terror sympathizer because of his relationship with the Wahhabist funding Saudis


8 posted on 10/15/2010 7:20:40 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

When people keep showing up in the same places with known terrorists, we have a need to know why. If you had a clue as to what national security is all about, you’d realize that, but you don’t, so...


9 posted on 10/15/2010 7:26:56 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: MadIsh32

George Bush sent the GZimam out as a representative of the US.

Our military allows jihadists to practice propaganda (hassan) in the open as they do nothing to intervene.

There have been imams in our military who were vetted and despite the radical views, continue on.

The Muslim brotherhood is involved in many Islamic groups in the US.

yes...I take this stuff very seriously as reading verses from the Koran compels us to.


10 posted on 10/15/2010 7:28:02 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: LSUfan

Excuse me, what clearance level do you have?


11 posted on 10/15/2010 8:51:45 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Having gone through your posting history, there’s a question I’d like you to answer, if it isn’t too much of a strain (or possibly classified): are you, personally, a muslim??


12 posted on 10/15/2010 10:00:17 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Its not classified, yes I am Muslim. And probably more politically conservative then people could ever imagine, and based on the campaigns I worked on in my early 20s here in VA I have established my credentials in that sense also.


13 posted on 10/15/2010 10:14:18 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
And probably more politically conservative then people could ever imagine

You mean, you believe in sharia and, eventually, a kaliphate?

based on the campaigns I worked on in my early 20s here in VA I have established my credentials in that sense also

What campaigns, exactly? Might help place you on the political map.

14 posted on 10/15/2010 11:12:42 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MadIsh32

Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the GOP too...just look at Grover Norquist. Your statements concern me. And anyone who brags about security clearances even in jest should not have one


15 posted on 10/15/2010 12:36:05 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: MadIsh32
By the same context, George W Bush is a terror sympathizer because of his relationship with the Wahhabist funding Saudis

Glad you noticed, knowledge is the beginning of wisdom.

16 posted on 10/15/2010 12:40:26 PM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: LSUfan

Who is bragging about security clearances?

And what about Grover? He married a Muslim woman and is now Muslim Brotherhood? lol

Come on man, even the mad hatter isn’t this bad with his late game time management.


17 posted on 10/15/2010 3:19:08 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Hardraade

In the fall of 1998 I had a fun time working for Virginia Dobey, who was running against Jane Woods and some other awful liberal, as a third party candidate for the VA statehouse.

Governor Jim Gilmore in 1997

I worked for Dave Nutter in SWVA.

Seeing that my Congressman was Tom Davis, for several years I had the opportunity to work for him, even on *gasp* Capitol Hill.

Was part of Bush-Cheney 2000.

Since my undergraduate days I have gone into the real world doing real things and simply could not afford the time (nor the meager pay) to stay working in politics.

Here is an old letter to the editor I wrote after the fall of Baghdad for my college newspaper

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/1224/letter-free-iraqis-show-wars-true-purpose/print


18 posted on 10/15/2010 3:25:03 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

So, to sum up, your posting history shows that you supports the mosque at ground zero, if my memory isn’t completely out of whack here. Nevermind that you don’t want to answer the point about your belief in sharia and an eventual kaliphate as a goal, that is pretty significant - as a muslim, you know perfectly well that the only thing that can be likened to is al Aqsa and similar triumphalist structurers.

You confirm that you have been working in politics - even, as you say, on Capitol. You even give your identity in your letter to the editor. There’s a small sticking point in that “voterfactory” seems to have you listed as a Democrat, but of course they may be wrong or there may be more people with that name.


19 posted on 10/16/2010 8:40:07 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

As for part 1, no I don’t believe that Sharia should be in America nor do I believe it ever well. Nor do I think Halakah law should be in America, nor do I believe we should have blue laws in America. If I want to buy alcohol on Sunday I should be able to, nor do I need to see the 10 commandments posted in public.

Essentially, there should be no religiously based laws.

But we already have arbitration done in Halakah courts as well Kosher food all over our grocery stores. I see no issue with Jewish people utilizing Halakah courts for their own means

As for a global caliphate, LOL, you seriously can’t believe that can you? I mean honestly, do you believe there is some Muslim conspiracy to take over the world? If so, I must have missed the meeting that day. If I had any reason to want to live under the rule of ass backwards Mullahs I would have left this country long ago.

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life either, and I consider that a pretty slanderous charge against me.


20 posted on 10/16/2010 9:53:48 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
Essentially, there should be no religiously based laws.

So, then you're not really a muslim, just someone claiming to be.

As for a global caliphate, LOL, you seriously can’t believe that can you? I mean honestly, do you believe there is some Muslim conspiracy to take over the world?

Oh yes, there is. And it's not a question of what I believe either :). We may of course have a discussion as to how realistic their plans are, but groups like Hizb_ut_Tahrir and the Muslim Brotherhood are quite outspoken, and they are just two of a large number of organizations with extremely broad support.

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life either, and I consider that a pretty slanderous charge against me.

Lol. As I said, voterfactory may be wrong, your name may not be unique, or any number of things. Do your own google.

21 posted on 10/16/2010 12:21:48 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

“Essentially, there should be no religiously based laws.
So, then you’re not really a muslim, just someone claiming to be.”

Again with the slander. First with being registered as a Democrat (which you have no proof of whatsoever, you just made it up to try and discredit me) and now with this.

Here is the thing. You don’t know me. Clearly you don’t know Islam. One thing I really despise is someone telling me what I believe or what I am supposed to believe. Its like liberals telling me I want the poor to go to hell because I don’t believe in entitlements.

DO NOT make that mistake again, as you have constantly done in our conversation. When one actually reads into the history of Islam, in particular the early readings of it, they get a much better understanding of the Quran and religiously based laws on earth.

You could say I am not a Wahabbist, which is true, they are madmen. I fall much more along the lines of the Sufi path.

“Oh yes, there is. And it’s not a question of what I believe either :). We may of course have a discussion as to how realistic their plans are, but groups like Hizb_ut_Tahrir and the Muslim Brotherhood are quite outspoken, and they are just two of a large number of organizations with extremely broad support.”

Oh no there is not. You have simply fallen for the words, propaganda and lies of the neo Nazis Robert Spencer and Pam Geller.


22 posted on 10/17/2010 9:28:59 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32; Yehuda; SJackson; MestaMachine; Nachum
“Essentially, there should be no religiously based laws. So, then you’re not really a muslim, just someone claiming to be.”

Again with the slander. First with being registered as a Democrat (which you have no proof of whatsoever, you just made it up to try and discredit me) and now with this.

Let's just clear up a couple of things. First, I never make things up. I didn't say you were a registered democrat, but that Voterfactory lists your name as Democrat, and with all the appropriaate caveats. You will find the relevant listing here:

Voterfactory

near to the top.

As for not believing there should be any religious laws, your own scripture makes you an apostate, which you know d*mn well. I agree with you of course, although I find islamic law malignant being that it seeks to spread by force. In contrast, halachic law is benign, seeing that judaism actually forbids proselytizing. But as for what you profess to believe, I could care less.

I fall much more along the lines of the Sufi path.

Oh bother. Like Gilani??

Oh no there is not. You have simply fallen for the words, propaganda and lies of the neo Nazis Robert Spencer and Pam Geller.

Pam and Rob are neonazis?? Who knew? Really, I think I found a live one :)).

23 posted on 10/17/2010 10:50:40 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Ask him to give one specific piece of ‘propaganda’.


24 posted on 10/17/2010 10:55:26 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Hardraade

Ask him to give one specific piece of ‘propaganda’.


25 posted on 10/17/2010 10:55:43 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MadIsh32; Hardraade

“Essentially, there should be no religiously based laws.”

Ummm, those Ten Commandments you don’t wish to see? Like from Exodus in the Old Testament?

Thou shalt not murder.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Just to mention a couple.

Whereas muslims condone and practice taqiyya, (lying.)
muslims are ordered to commit murder of any who don’t submit. (including you.)

I could fill volumes about the founding of mohammadanism which is not what islam once was. It is, by its very nature, a terrorist organization regardless of which sect you claim to belong to. It has contributed NOTHING to civilization yet it makes the most outrageous claims the world has ever heard and issues religious edicts of death to anyone who disputes them.

They have infiltrated our government at the highest levels...and yes, Bush enabled it further, but the real push began with carter.
I would be interested in how you justify what islam is actually doing in, and TO, this country while you are telling us that we don’t see what we see.


26 posted on 10/17/2010 3:53:47 PM PDT by MestaMachine (The waywardness of the thoughtless shall slay them,and the confidence of fools shall destroy them.)
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To: MadIsh32; Nachum
"propaganda and lies of the neo Nazis"

Oh. Speaking of...

27 posted on 10/17/2010 4:05:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (The waywardness of the thoughtless shall slay them,and the confidence of fools shall destroy them.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

28 posted on 10/17/2010 4:12:20 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: MestaMachine

These moving koran-emplacements, look like the Nazi gun emplacements looking out & over the Normandy beaches, as they stare through their slits with the same intentions the Nazi’s did while firing on Allied Soldiers as we advanced & destroyed them...as we will once again when the firing begins.


29 posted on 10/17/2010 4:21:21 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: LSUfan

islam is a clear case of too much ambition, not enough talent.

Stupid koranimals.


30 posted on 10/17/2010 4:25:58 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: MadIsh32; bayouranger; Hardraade
Jamaat ul-Fuqra was founded in 1980 in New York by a Pakistani Sufi named Sheikh Mubarik Ali Hasmi Shah Gilani, along with a front organization called “The Muslims of America”. Most of its members are American citizens, converted to Islam and recruited via the prison system. The group has been associated with assassinations and firebombings in this country and Canada, and various members have been charged with and convicted of criminal offenses. It is thought that the group obtains its funds through welfare fraud, money laundering, and other illegal activities. JF has established numerous compounds, known as “Jamaats”, mostly in remote rural areas in the U.S.A. and Canada. Jamaat ul-Fuqra has been named as a terrorist organization by the State Department.

VIRGINIA




And this is all news to you, of course.

31 posted on 10/17/2010 5:17:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, Virginia, there is a jihad.


32 posted on 10/17/2010 6:23:03 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: MadIsh32

Hello?? Ran away, did you?

Hilarious how you managed to actually prove the headline true. And in one shot prove how you guys are just too stupid and arrogant for your own good ;P - bound for the ash-heap of history, literally.

Oh well. Arab “culture”. What can you say. Off to get some coffee...


33 posted on 10/17/2010 9:16:17 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MestaMachine

If you want a good laugh, you should really watch Gilani’s treatises on djinns. Not just funny haha, but funny peculiar.

Not that Gilani is all that much of a funny creature, as Daniel Pearl would attest to.


34 posted on 10/17/2010 9:29:47 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

If this isn't...
35 posted on 10/17/2010 9:48:42 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MadIsh32

Oh, and neonazis? Allow me to show you some:

http://www.junipersec.com/aryan.htm


36 posted on 10/17/2010 10:26:02 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade; MadIsh32

Wanna tell maddy about the sufi children’s army currently in training?
The sufi have been very good at flying under the radar building on their “reputation” as “peaceful” muslims. Ain’t no such animal.
If the quran is your rulebook, allah, the transgendered idol is your god, and muhammed, the insane, homicidal pedophile, is your prophet, and you claim to be a smart guy, I seriously question what you consider stupid.


37 posted on 10/18/2010 5:01:43 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine
Wanna tell maddy about the sufi children’s army currently in training?

Lol. The merry band of the Naqshbandi. That's a dubya target they're using, in case Ismail here should claim they're just shooting turkeys.

Jaish al Naqshbandiya

Jaish al Naqshbandiya

Jaish al Naqshbandiya

38 posted on 10/18/2010 5:14:46 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Well, “turkeys” is in the eye of the beholder.


39 posted on 10/18/2010 5:42:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Hardraade

No, I actually have a job and run a small business on the side and I get bored easily of message board discussions (in particular when I have had the same conversation 100 times. It gets old after a bit)

However if you are in the DC area please feel free to send me a message. Lunch/dinner/shooting at NRA headquarters is on me and we’ll have a good talk.

In the meantime, get lots of coffee


40 posted on 10/18/2010 7:02:48 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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