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How Windows Phone 7 Trumps Android and iOS
techtree ^ | Oct 15, 2010 1815 hrs IST | Rohan Naravane,

Posted on 10/15/2010 7:52:17 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

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They've also made sure that all possible sensors are fitted into WP7 devices; A-GPS, Accelerometer, Compass, Ambient light sensor and the proximity sensor. These may be things that you overlook when you're reading through a phone's spec-sheet, but after using countless phones with these sensors, we feel they are quite nifty. For example, the ambient light sensor automatically adjusts the screen brightness according to the surrounding lighting, thus improving readability and saving battery life. The proximity sensor turns the display off when you put the phone to your ear, again to save power and to avoid any accidental taps on the screen when you're talking.

Next, they've also put 8GB flash memory as a compulsory addition. This solves a peculiar problem that cheaper Android phones before version 2.2 faced; running out of free space when you install many apps (since these phones only had a couple of hundred megabytes to play with). Lastly, they've also set guidelines for cameras; the 5 megapixel minimum count will ensure at least decent image quality on any phone. Secondly, a flash is also compulsorily, so a blunder like this won't happen on a Windows Phone. A compulsory camera shutter button is also a welcome rule if you ask me, since taking pictures is more accurate than tapping a virtual shutter button on the screen. At least it simulates like you're clicking with a camera.

1 posted on 10/15/2010 7:52:22 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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2 posted on 10/15/2010 7:53:55 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I believe WP7 biggest features are no cut and paste and no multitasking. You’d think that since MS is about 4 years late that they would be able to do the basics. Son of Kin.


3 posted on 10/15/2010 7:57:30 AM PDT by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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I believe WP7 biggest features are no cut and paste and no multitasking

Those are the two biggest LACKING features, not the two biggest features. You got it the wrong way round. I still don't see how Microsoft managed not to have those two features at launch. Steve Ballmer should have been sacked long ago, if it wasn't for the fact that the Microsoft board is packed with his pals including Bill Gates.

You’d think that since MS is about 4 years late that they would be able to do the basics.

Agree

” Son of Kin.”

Not even close.
WP7 will be very successful, whether it manages to beat the iPhone and Android in sales or not.

4 posted on 10/15/2010 8:10:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Whowever wrote this has no comprehension of what makes the mobile device market work whatsoever.


5 posted on 10/15/2010 8:10:15 AM PDT by bigbob
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Prediction: It will be another mediocre product from Microsoft.

I don’t see Blackberry users, iPhone users or Android users changing... to get more MS windows problems. And frankly, what was the last MS product that was “cool” or desirable, or part of popular culture?

They now have to try to make the argument that people should buy their phone, and become “uncool” or “lower status in the corporate world”. I may be totally wrong, but I don’t see it happening.

On the other hand, I welcome all competitors to the smart phone arena. The more they fight it out, the better for consumers.

best,
ampu


6 posted on 10/15/2010 8:14:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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IMHO, Microsoft forcing all those “mandates” on phone manufacturers is counterproductive. Besides the fact that if feels like the Federal Government, it is not necessary and will drive certain consumers away. If consumers demand certain features and specs, the manufacturers will provide them.

I think one of best features of Android is that there are so many different phones, with different manufacturers, specs and configurations to choose from. The lack of this is the biggest drawback of Apple ios.

Some people don’t want to pay for a higher resolution screen, a flash, a 1 ghz processor, etc. Also, some of those features can reduce battery life, which is a priority for many consumers.

My wife’s android phone has a 600mhz processor and it pretty much keeps up with my 1 ghz phone in processing speed. She also gets much better battery life and her phone is a smaller and a lot cheaper.

The beauty of Android is that is allows that old, outdated, mechanism known as “the market” to operate. Manufactures make phones that they hope will please the CONSUMERS, not Google. As a result, many great Android phones, in various sizes, with a different specs and features are out in the market, to appeal to the maximum number of consumers, and Anrdoid’s market share is exploding.

Some of the phones will fail and the manufacturers will learn from those failures and make better products (or get out of the business). But, overall, producing phones aimed at pleasing consumers, rather than a software company, is a far superior strategy.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 8:18:55 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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I welcome Microsoft to the mobile competition; the more the merrier.

I'll be interested to see how their different approach to organization (the "tiles") works out. It's a neat idea.

It is a shame, however, that their big splash entry is missing key features like cut/paste and multi-tasking. That will hold it back.

So far, my feeling is "too little, too late", but who knows... could catch on.

8 posted on 10/15/2010 8:32:07 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Whowever wrote this has no comprehension of what makes the mobile device market work whatsoever

Wrong!
On the contrary, pretty much most reviews from most of the top tech sites that I have seen, have Windows Phone 7 trumping Android.

9 posted on 10/15/2010 8:33:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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> IMHO, Microsoft forcing all those “mandates” on phone manufacturers is counterproductive. Besides the fact that if feels like the Federal Government, it is not necessary and will drive certain consumers away.

Once again, I think we see Microsoft trying to figure out why Apple is so successful, and coming up with a "cargo cult" response.

Restricting options has always been Apple's hallmark -- they exert tremendous pressure to keep things a certain way (or limited number of ways). But that's a means to an end -- the end is the user experience as defined in the Apple Interface Guidelines. The restrictions only exist to accomplish a much larger and loftier goal.

Microsoft goes to copy Apple again, and believes that if they make a lot of similar restrictions, they will be similarly successful. Unfortunately, they don't have anything like Apple's history of successfully defining the user interface. *sigh*

Cargo cult (on Wikipedia)

10 posted on 10/15/2010 8:39:26 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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> pretty much most reviews from most of the top tech sites that I have seen, have Windows Phone 7 trumping Android.

Fortune-telling is risky stuff. I personally try to avoid doing it, and don't put much stock in others' prognostications.

It will be interesting to revisit all these predictions in a year, and two years, and three years.

But of course, that's rarely done, because it's embarrassing. :)

11 posted on 10/15/2010 8:43:29 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Prediction: It will be another mediocre product from Microsoft.

Windows Phone 7 is very good actually. Read the reviews, which have been really good. You are out of date with the times.

I don’t see Blackberry users, iPhone users or Android users changing... to get more MS windows problems. “

Over 1.3 billion cell phones are sold every year. Out of that number, only very tiny number(approx 100 million units last year), were smart phones. By far most cell phones sold today are not smartphones. Microsoft doesn't have to take any users from iPhone/Android/Rim. All they gotta do is grab a good chunk of the vast untapped new smartphone users, moving up from ordinary cell phones.

And frankly, what was the last MS product that was “cool” or desirable, or part of popular culture?”

The XBOX 360, which is busy clobbering the Wii and PS3 in monthly sales even as we speak?
Kinect, which will launch in November and is already experiencing very impressive pre-orders(pre-orders are sold-out in sections of the UK market for example)?

12 posted on 10/15/2010 8:44:17 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dayglored
Fortune-telling is risky stuff.

No fortunetelling We are talking about the technical merits of Android as compared to WP 7 here, not how well WP7 will do in the market, and the general prognosis has been that WP7 is a better product than Android is.

13 posted on 10/15/2010 8:48:33 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: dayglored
WP7 (with it's tiles design) is totally different from how the iPhone works. This is a very good, new concept(for smart phones), from Microsoft. Plus WP 7 is linked to XBOX Live which will deliver a much better gaming experience than the iPhone..and XBOX Live has been around since 2001, long before Apple even dreamed about cell phones.
14 posted on 10/15/2010 8:53:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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> No fortunetelling We are talking about the technical merits of Android as compared to WP 7 here, not how well WP7 will do in the market, and the general prognosis has been that WP7 is a better product than Android is.

Ah, my error.

I am not versed enough in the comparative technical merits of the two platforms to make a solid judgment yet, and I withdraw my comment.

15 posted on 10/15/2010 8:53:33 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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> WP7 (with it's tiles design) is totally different from how the iPhone works. This is a very good, new concept(for smart phones), from Microsoft.

Yep, I'm very interested to see how that works out, and is embraced by the users. It's a very neat idea.

And if it catches on, it'll be a long-awaited "plus" in MSFT's "innovations" column.

16 posted on 10/15/2010 8:56:14 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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That could be the case. If so, I think Windows Mobile 7 is doomed to failure. Apple already has the “cargo cult” market sewn up.

There is nothing wrong with Apple's strategy, as clearly a good segment of the market wants that sort of structure and consistency and is willing to sacrifice variety and choice to get it. Buying an iPhone is fairly safe, because even if you don't do a lot of research, you know it is going be a pretty good product. I do think this will limit Apple's market share, in the future, though.

If WinMob7 wanted to be a huge success it should have tried to out Android, Android, by giving manufacturers more freedom to produce phones they believe the public wants, only making a better OS than Android.

I do think it was important to initially get WinMob7 running on some very high end hardware, but it should not be required for all WM7 phones. I think they fell a bit short in this, as the first WM7 phone is basically a Samsung Galaxy S which is a very good phone, but is about 3 or 4 months old. Microsoft should have launched on hardware that was ahead of the market, rather than playing catch up.

17 posted on 10/15/2010 8:57:53 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: coaltrain

WP7 DOES have multi-tasking. And Cut & Paste isn’t there in this version. I know it’s stupid, but I believe they will do the same thing as apple and add it very quickly. I bet the holiday launch had them cut a few key features to get it to ship on time. But the nice thing is they can add them later since they will be able to patch the phone.


18 posted on 10/15/2010 9:00:12 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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And frankly, what was the last MS product that was “cool” or desirable, or part of popular culture?

XBOX 360.

19 posted on 10/15/2010 9:01:43 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh ya...forgot to mention gues what WP7 has built in? XBOX Live integration. So it does appear they are leveraging their “Cool pop culture” win into the WP7.


20 posted on 10/15/2010 9:02:59 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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