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Baby snatched for dad's politics back with parents (Oathkeepers)
World Net Daily ^ | 15 OCT 10 | By Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/15/2010 10:47:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Police State USA
Baby snatched for dad's politics back with parents reunited!
Newborn returned to family where father accused of being 'Oath Keeper'

A tiny baby girl snatched from her parents' custody a week ago when her father was accused of being an "Oath Keeper" was returned to her parents today.

According to WND sources close to the case, the accusations against the father, Johnathon Irish, whose fiancée, Stephanie Taylor, is the mother of Cheyenne, have been dropped.

WND originally reported on the case last weekend when the state took the baby, ordering the father to stand with his hands behind his back and frisking him while social workers took the child. The affidavit supporting the actions cited the father's affiliation with the patriotic organization Oath Keepers.

Irish, reached today by telephone by WND, said New Hampshire state law prevents disclosure of details of family court disputes. But the WND source confirmed that the little girl had been returned to the family and there were no future court dates scheduled in the case.

Officials with the state Family Court system could not be reached by WND.

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Just hours earlier a protest was held outside the court where the hearing was going on, and as WND reported, officials with Oath Keepers submitted a demand letter to the state's social services agency to remove the reference in the affidavit in the Irish case.

The organization collects affirmations from soldiers and peace officers that they would refuse orders that violate the U.S. Constitution in light of what they perceive as the advance of socialism in the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: banglist; cps; johnathonirish; newhampshire; nh; oathkeeper; oathkeepers; whoisjohngalt; wnd; worldnetdaily

Johnathon Irish, fiancé and baby

1 posted on 10/15/2010 10:47:06 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1
Amazing what a few thousand fire-breathing phone calls and emails to government bureaucrats can accomplish!!!
2 posted on 10/15/2010 10:48:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
While this baby snatching should NEVER have happened, I just pray that technique of expressing our outrage continues to be effective and we don't find it necessary to resort to sterner measures against these overreaching bureauclowns.
3 posted on 10/15/2010 10:52:19 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: DCBryan1

Accusations dropped???? Accusations dropped??

They come by and snatch up a man’s kids because he is accused of belonging to a political organisation??

Things have gone a bit too far in this country.


4 posted on 10/15/2010 10:52:59 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: DCBryan1

Another example of the ignorance and stupidity of liberalism.....


5 posted on 10/15/2010 10:53:40 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: DCBryan1

Man (Oathkeeper)+ woman (fiancee)= baby. Does not compute.
Not by the Book.


6 posted on 10/15/2010 10:53:52 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Dick Bachert
I just pray that technique of expressing our outrage continues to be effective and we don't find it necessary to resort to sterner measures against these overreaching bureauclowns.

We'll see. I for one am not sanquine about the future.

7 posted on 10/15/2010 10:54:01 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: DCBryan1

This is great news, go Oathkeepers! Anyone know if previous allegations that the baby was abused while under DCYF care have proved true?

Many here felt this case was some sort of scam by the parents, glad to see they were wrong.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 10:54:04 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: DCBryan1

From what I read earlier in the week, this couple has a history of domestic violence and that was the reason for what happened.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 10:55:25 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
that's good however they probably have their sights on the next ‘threat’. It would be better if the people exercised enough power to eliminate these kinds of bureaucratic thugs, put them out of business and jail a few of them.
10 posted on 10/15/2010 10:55:29 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Doulos1

I’m not sure about your generational background, but as a 30 year old conservative man, I see this sort of thing happening all the time. My fiancee is 6 years my senior, and we’re growing concerned about her biological clock and that “dreaded” 40. If we’re not officially hitched in the next couple of years, I wouldn’t be upset or concerned if we conceived. This woman is everything to me, and she’s the first and only woman I’ve ever considered to be “mommy material.”

While the somewhat anachronistic ways of our past are worth holding on to, I think the idea of a “bastard” child is less frowned upon today as it was 40, 50, 60 years ago.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m going to hold out until marriage, but since we don’t use contraception, we understand that we’re “playing with a loaded gun,” so to say.


11 posted on 10/15/2010 10:58:22 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Venturer

Yes! Turn them back. On 2/11 remember it is your America and kick the bums out.


12 posted on 10/15/2010 10:59:18 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: rarestia

Just go to the courthouse tonight and get married.

Problem solved.


13 posted on 10/15/2010 11:01:42 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Venturer

Heads still need to roll.


14 posted on 10/15/2010 11:02:45 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: DCBryan1

This is just a weird story. Last thing I read was the baby had been rushed to the hospital after possible sexual assault while in foster care, now the family suddenly has the baby back.

I’m so confused.


15 posted on 10/15/2010 11:03:16 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: DCBryan1
Irish, reached today by telephone by WND, said New Hampshire state law prevents disclosure of details of family court disputes. But the WND source confirmed that the little girl had been returned to the family and there were no future court dates scheduled in the case.

Pretty much confirms that the bad guys in this incident were the CPS, cops and the judge.

This means that Mr Irish has been threatened by the court with contempt sanctions if he reveals political corruption and agenda in CPS and the court.

16 posted on 10/15/2010 11:04:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

She’s a widow who, in her words, “was sold a bill of goods,” when her late husband rushed her to the courthouse for a wedding.

I’m a traditional man with traditional values, and I believe every woman should have the privilege of a ceremony. I would never deign to a shotgun wedding nor a courthouse ceremony. She’s been through that, she’s my queen, she deserves the royal treatment.


17 posted on 10/15/2010 11:11:31 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: DCBryan1
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!!
18 posted on 10/15/2010 11:12:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 of next Congress- DEFUND THE LEFT (#2 repeal obamacare))
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To: FarRightFanatic
From what I read earlier in the week, this couple has a history of domestic violence and that was the reason for what happened.

Now they are saying it was a case of "mistaken identity"...smells like a government coverup to me. I don't think there ever was any domestic violence - the couple has been saying that was a bogus claim from the start.

19 posted on 10/15/2010 11:15:55 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: DCBryan1
Irish doesn’t, on the surface, sound like a typical “Oath Keeper.” As I understand “Oath Keepers” are mostly military folks. Is he one, or just a wannabee.
20 posted on 10/15/2010 11:19:51 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: rarestia

Buy her a ring, get down on a knee, tell her that there will never ever be another woman besides her. She will say yes.
Get married this weekend for God’s sake, for your sake, for her sake, for your child’s sake. Make it right man. Do it!


21 posted on 10/15/2010 11:25:26 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: DCBryan1

What happen to the frantic reports of the baby bleeding about her nether regions and having to be hospitalized?


22 posted on 10/15/2010 11:45:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Doulos1

“Man (Oathkeeper)+ woman (fiancee)= baby. Does not compute.
Not by the Book.”

According to news articles I’ve seen, the man once posted(literally, apparently) on the Oath Keepers site, the “fiancee” is still married to someone else, and the man himself is by all reports not a nice or good person.

There were allegations of child abuse, and the association with Oath Keepers, and his possession of firearms, as reasons for taking the child. If substantiated, the first is adequate reason for separating them, but the latter two reasons had no business on the affidavits accepted by the court. That is apparently what they are acknowledging by releasing the child back to her parents.

“Does not compute.” FRiend, you SO have that right! In so very many different ways!


23 posted on 10/15/2010 12:08:57 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: Old Student

Thanks for the update. Regardless of what liberal/socialist say there is a right and a wrong. God made the rules our choice is to live by them or ignore them and pay the price.


24 posted on 10/15/2010 12:15:30 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Doulos1
I have to self-ping this for posterity. It's practical, action-oriented, down-to-earth, and probably the most romantic thing I've ever read on FR! If my man said this to me, I would follow him to the ends of the earth. (Make that, "If he says this to me, I will follow him. . . ."
25 posted on 10/15/2010 12:19:55 PM PDT by MissNomer
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To: rarestia

Please don’t forget adoption as a possibility.


26 posted on 10/15/2010 12:46:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: B4Ranch

Please don’t misunderstand, abortion would never be an option, and I would be proud to be the father of this woman’s children.


27 posted on 10/15/2010 1:18:38 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Doulos1

She’s already got the ring. We’re in the planning stages for a wedding, but we’re waiting until I’m done with my Master’s degree next April. We’ll be full bore on the wedding plans thereafter, I can assure you.


28 posted on 10/15/2010 1:19:52 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Venturer
There was more backstory than that. It wasn't just the OK thing.

Nothing proven in court though.

Say a prayer for all involved.

29 posted on 10/15/2010 1:22:57 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: rarestia

The loaded gun you are playing with is a lifetime of regret when/if you get married and can’t get pregnant.

Every day you wait decreases the chance of a pregnancy. There have been many broken hearts because people have waited for just the *right* time.

If you are not convinced, just look at the graph that plots fertility by age. Look at it plunge in the 30’s and 40’s.


30 posted on 10/15/2010 1:29:13 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: FarRightFanatic
From what I read, there were allegations of domestic violence, not a history of proof. The standard for the assumption of domestic violence/child abuse is so thin that it is a common opening salvo in divorce cases--it gets the husband restrained from his own house by court order on mere say-so.

Those allegations need not be supported by physical evidence and the accuser's name is withheld from the accused unless the matter is taken to court (prohibitively expensive for many--especially if their bank accounts have been drained by their ex-to-be and they have been denied access to their domicile and items of value). The standard CPS approach often includes a host of unsubstantiated claims and hyperbole which make the accused out to be a monster. The standards are so vague that virtually anyone can be accused.

Considering his fiance is trying to divorce her (technically, husband) and there are two other children involved, it might have been beneficial for the ex-hubby to be if he could get the couple branded as abusers to keep from having to pay her support if she was awarded the children from that union. All it takes is an anonymous call...

I'm not saying that is what happened, but that is one possible scenario.

31 posted on 10/15/2010 2:14:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rarestia

>> I’m going to hold out until marriage, but since we don’t use contraception, we understand that we’re “playing with a loaded gun,” so to say.<<

You’re going to hold out? Why the he!! would you have to use contraceptives if you are going to hold out?

That was funny!


32 posted on 10/15/2010 2:16:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: rarestia

I said, adoption NOT abortion! I would never suggest abortion.


33 posted on 10/15/2010 2:30:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: MissNomer

Thanks, just a believer trying to get by in the world and maybe help somebody along the way. God Bless you.


34 posted on 10/15/2010 4:06:38 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: rarestia

Good for you man, good for you. God will always bless those who trust and obey His Word. God bless ya, bro.
Keep pounding at the Democrats. I can see November from my house!


35 posted on 10/15/2010 4:10:30 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: DCBryan1

BTTT!


36 posted on 10/15/2010 4:11:09 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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