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Obama Proposes Rebate for Seniors Deprived of Social Security Benefit Hike
Fox News ^ | Oct. 15, 2010 | Fox News

Posted on 10/15/2010 12:55:22 PM PDT by Washi

President Obama is calling for a $250 rebate for seniors after the Social Security Administration announced Friday that interest rates in 2010 haven't risen enough to justify an increase in benefits next year to the 58 million retirees and disabled Americans who receive the entitlement.

Congressional Democrats, already in a precarious position headed into Election Day, are heeding the president's call.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs announced that in light of the economic downturn and the fact that Social Security will not provide a cost-of-living adjustment for a second year, the president will ask Congress to approve a $250 "economic recovery payment" to seniors, veterans and people with disabilities.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; rebate; socialsecurity; votebuying
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This is a blatant attempt to buy the votes of seniors with taxpayer money.

Notice that this happens two weeks before the election, is announced on Friday afternoon to avoid the immediate attention of conservative talk shows, and benefits those democrats in congress that will "push the president's agenda forward."

This makes me sick, and I hope the seniors will see it for the bribe that it is, and not sell their vote for a measly $250.

1 posted on 10/15/2010 12:55:29 PM PDT by Washi
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To: Washi
$250 "economic recovery payment" to seniors, veterans and people with disabilities.

I don't want it...These SOBs will take it back in taxes at the end of the year...Just like he did in 2009.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 12:59:55 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Washi

I don’t know that this is a plus or a minus.

Obama is not smart to announce two weeks before an election that no cost of living increase is to be forthcoming.

A $250 one time payment although directly attributable to Obama is NOT what most of the seniors are going to think is fair. They know there has bee electrical and food inflation and they aren’t going to buy the lie that there hasn’t been.

A $250 payment is what Obama offered them last time. So this is just keeping pace with last year.


3 posted on 10/15/2010 1:00:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Washi
Well, $250 is better than a pack of cigs or a bottle of ripple. Of course, is your soul worth more than $250?
4 posted on 10/15/2010 1:00:16 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Washi
Social Security payments were originally supposed to be TAX FREE. Now they're not.

BTW, taxes collected on Social Security benefits are not returned to the "trust fund" even though they are all paid at the top applicable rate.

Taxing benefits and not returning the money to the "trust fund" is a double dip on the part of the General Fund.

Most likely $250 will not buy many votes.

5 posted on 10/15/2010 1:00:19 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Washi

But, TRULY, there are some that REALLY need it.

(i.e. my parents...that I cannot make up for)


6 posted on 10/15/2010 1:00:32 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Washi

They’ll probably just go out and blow this $250.00 on a tank of gas.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 1:00:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Less than 20 days to go to election day. I'm giddier than a TV weatherman during hurricane season.)
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To: Washi
you posted, "I hope the seniors will see it for the bribethat it is, and not sell their vote for a measly $250."

$250 doesn't go very far these days.

8 posted on 10/15/2010 1:01:04 PM PDT by Auntie Toots (The GOP has taken on new life..with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman and Jan Brewer))
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To: Washi

ROTFLOL... 250 bucks? Like that’s going to help them? That might cover a few prescriptions for the month.

Our seniors are not stupid.

Obama is such a joke.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 1:02:41 PM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: Washi

Hey, you know what we did when we found out we weren’t going to get a benefit hike? We started an online business. I’m not a benefit bunny, as The-Negro-Without-An-Accent-Unless-He-Wants-One wants me to be.


10 posted on 10/15/2010 1:05:57 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: darkwing104

That’s right.
The One giveth and The One taketh away...............Piss be upon him.............


11 posted on 10/15/2010 1:07:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (The intensity and breadth of the grassroots opposition to the president...is difficult to overstate.)
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To: nagdt

When seniors and taxpayers en masse got $300 each, I believe it was, from Bush, I remember Michelle sneering, “that’s not enough to buy a pair of earrings.” Hey, Michelle, I want enough to buy a pair of earrings.


12 posted on 10/15/2010 1:07:21 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Washi

What’s another 15 billion dollars in debt, right?


13 posted on 10/15/2010 1:07:37 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (I can see November from my house!)
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To: darkwing104

He wants to buy your Democrat vote (not that I’m saying you’re Democrat) He thinks you’re petty enough to sell your soul for $250 cash.


14 posted on 10/15/2010 1:08:27 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: nagdt

I believe the SS death benefit is also $250. Doesn’t take a psychiatrist to read the Democrats’ minds.

I checked it out here - it’s actually $255.
http://dying.lovetoknow.com/Social_Security_Death_Benefit

Lump Sum Death Benefit: This is a one-time payment from Social Security given to the next of kin or beneficiary. As of January 2008, that amount was $255, and only one payment per family is allotted.


15 posted on 10/15/2010 1:08:42 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: nagdt
"ROTFLOL... 250 bucks? Like that’s going to help them? That might cover a few prescriptions for the month."

For some, just a week....BUT...

Michelle Obambi said re Dubyas $600.....

Wada ya gonna do, buy a pair of earrings?-She knows real class !..NOT!

16 posted on 10/15/2010 1:09:45 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: Washi; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
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This is a blatant attempt to buy the votes of seniors with taxpayer money.

Notice that this happens two weeks before the election, is announced on Friday afternoon to avoid the immediate attention of conservative talk shows, and benefits those democrats in congress that will "push the president's agenda forward."

This makes me sick, and I hope the seniors will see it for the bribe that it is, and not sell their vote for a measly $250.

17 posted on 10/15/2010 1:11:56 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: darkwing104

I don’t get it. “Veterans?” Does he mean all vets, or just disabled ones?


18 posted on 10/15/2010 1:13:34 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Washi

My moron younger son is still waiting for the $500 check from Obama, that the college Democrat club promised him if he would vote for the Kenyan Deceiver.

There was a flyer with the $500 promise directly quoted from Obama.


19 posted on 10/15/2010 1:14:34 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: Washi

Actually, this is just par for the course. As an oldster myself, I find it offensive, but the fact is if the Social Security formula doesn’t spit out a COLA for any given year, then to heck with the formula. Politicians of both parties will fall all over themselves to give money to a bloc that votes regularly.


20 posted on 10/15/2010 1:19:41 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: nagdt

“Our seniors are not stupid”.

...I don’t disagree with that, but they are scared. My Mother lives in a 62+ community and whenever dems came out with the “Republicans will take your SS, your teeth etc” ads, some of these people got panicky.


21 posted on 10/15/2010 1:20:17 PM PDT by albie
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To: Washi
Sanders argued that the estimated $13 billion to help seniors pay for "rising health care and prescription drug costs" is a fraction of the $70 billion wealthy Americans would be allowed to keep if Bush-era tax cuts are extended.

I hate these bassturds and their smug sense of entitlement to our money more each passing day.

22 posted on 10/15/2010 1:20:30 PM PDT by workerbee (FAIL, BABY, FAIL!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Nah, we will “blow it” on part of one scrip for my husband’s Parkinson’s meds.

He hits the “doughnut hole” in summer of every year. One scrip costs us well over $300 a month.


23 posted on 10/15/2010 1:23:47 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Washi

Seniors should remember $4 billion to the UN Global Fund. $250 taxable to seniors with no cost of living increase for two years. Woo hoo! Thank you, Barry.


24 posted on 10/15/2010 1:24:25 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Washi

It’s more illustrative of their mindset of their “superior discretion”.

“Oh, yeah, this policy causes a problem with group X, we’ll just make a discretionary allowance or waiver for that group and everything else will be fine.”

The “Chess Piece fallacy” derives from Adam Smith’s description of the person who “seems to imagine that he can arrange the members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces on a chess-board.”


25 posted on 10/15/2010 1:24:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Washi

Just a payoff to those who elected not to live responsibly during their working years.


26 posted on 10/15/2010 1:24:54 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Washi

More scam voter-buying before the election. Given that seniors are far more likely to vote republican, I’m surprised Hussein would even make the phony statement. After all, the death panels were created for the purpose of cleaning out as many conservatives as possible.


27 posted on 10/15/2010 1:26:42 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Washi

Dumb, dumb, dumb. They can keep their measly $250. How many millions is it going to cost to cut all those checks?

Either the cost of living went up or it didn’t. Idiots.


28 posted on 10/15/2010 1:27:38 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (When life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.)
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To: Washi
"and people with disabilities"

Yeah; all those getting SSDI for crack addiction, and other trumped-up ailments (shown below)

Included with the check will be a Voting Guide, indicating which boxes to put your "X" in:

29 posted on 10/15/2010 1:30:34 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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To: MrB

Worse: it’s a sign of emerging dictatorship.
Law doesn’t work in his favor? “waiver”.


30 posted on 10/15/2010 1:31:49 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Washi

Sorry King Baraq, my vote isn’t for sale.


31 posted on 10/15/2010 1:32:54 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: Washi

So King Barry is going to rob from the taxpayers and/or borrow to throw some coins to the peasants again with this “rebate”.

The only place this is going to end is the first hyperinflation that the USA has ever experienced.


32 posted on 10/15/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Washi
This makes me sick, and I hope the seniors will see it for the bribe that it is, and not sell their vote for a measly $250.

I promise, it won't buy mine......There! Feel better now?

33 posted on 10/15/2010 1:37:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: Washi

that will be 2 extra cans of catfood for any holiday dinners they have


34 posted on 10/15/2010 1:37:40 PM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: Gaffer

my grand parents never voted democrat until after they died


35 posted on 10/15/2010 1:39:33 PM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: ctdonath2

A dictatorship, or any form of totalitarianism,

is simply an extension of the granting or seizing of “discretionary authority”,

which is what the left is doing more and more all the time.

The health care bill is a great illustration of this.


36 posted on 10/15/2010 1:42:26 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: albie
........they are scared. My Mother lives in a 62+ community and whenever dems came out with the “Republicans will take your SS, your teeth etc” ads, some of these people got panicky.

Even though they have heard the same old line their entire lives during every election, plus the other lie the rats always trot out, that the dem candidate is brainy and the republican one is stupid.

37 posted on 10/15/2010 1:43:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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Just a payoff to those who elected not to live responsibly during their working years.

I'm 65 and I'll get the $250 also and I have lived and voted responsibly my entire life. F.R. has plenty of old coots like me.

38 posted on 10/15/2010 1:47:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: SF_Redux
my grand parents never voted democrat until after they died

That is going to be hard to be for The Post of the Thread Award.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

39 posted on 10/15/2010 1:47:44 PM PDT by The Comedian (They Live. We Sleep.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Either the cost of living went up or it didn’t. Idiots.

Your second sentence is correct, succinct too!

We both know that the cost of living has gone up. Everything has gone up, I can't think of a single thing that hasn't increased in price.

40 posted on 10/15/2010 1:51:43 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: Washi

If they send it to me I’ll buy ammo with it!


41 posted on 10/15/2010 1:53:42 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Graybeard58

If a retired person needs $250.00 in order to survive, it is a strong indication that they were not financially responsible.


42 posted on 10/15/2010 1:56:38 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Graybeard58
I promise, it won't buy mine......There! Feel better now?

Heh heh. Much better. Thanks.

43 posted on 10/15/2010 1:57:41 PM PDT by Washi
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To: Liberty Ship

I don’t get it. “Veterans?” Does he mean all vets, or just disabled ones?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Pretty sure it just means retirees or those drawing a VA disability check.

Of course didn’t Congress vote THEMSELVES a COLA raise? or, to be more exact, didn’t vote to stop it?


44 posted on 10/15/2010 1:57:54 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Oust the incumbents!!)
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To: Washi

I am not for sale. Maybe I am a senior but I am not senile.
I can use the money but that is like 30 pieces of silver.


45 posted on 10/15/2010 2:02:08 PM PDT by americanmother (I)
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To: sodpoodle
"Lump Sum Death Benefit: This is a one-time payment from Social Security given to the next of kin or beneficiary."

NOT EVERYONE GETS THIS. When my step-mother passed away my father thought he would get the one-time death benefit. Turns out he couldn't get it because my step-mother never worked enough to draw her own SS and was drawing off of his SS. So they don't take from your SS to give to yourself.

46 posted on 10/15/2010 2:02:22 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Washi

What a joke, hubby and I are still waiting for the last one. We did get a $120 tax hike on his Navy retirement this year. Next year we get hit by a $1,200 tax hike...besides the CommieCare tax hikes. And I’m sure the local gov’t wants a property tax hike to boot. Hubby is 70 and not able to work any longer.

That is a months worth of groceries that’s all it is. You should see the frail elderly lined up at our local community center in Millington, TN..the line has tripled in the past 2 yrs. These are 70-90 year olds most on walkers or in wheelchairs or those funky canes, they qualify for $10-30 in food stamps...now if they were illegals, they’d get tons of FREE healthcare, several hundreds of dollars per month in food stamps and free rent.


47 posted on 10/15/2010 2:02:48 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Washi

DEMOCRATS WAR ON SENIORS...pass it on.

How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion

Health law’s heavy impact by Paul Guppy (Taxes)
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/mar/28/health-laws-heavy-impact/

Monthly premiums to rise for 7 of top 10 Medicare prescription plans in 2011
http://www.startribune.com/business/103642009.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiacyKUnciatkEP7DhUr

Social Security: No 2011 increase expected (COLA)
http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/news/economy/Social_Security_cost_of_living_adjustment/index.htm

No Social Security COLA Expected For 2011 News Expected To Be Bad For Democrats
http://www.kptv.com/politics/25344443/detail.html

They forgot to add this to the “Rest of the Story”

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/22/chain-email/chain-e-mail-says-congress-raised-own-salaries-whi/

Shall we wait to see how the media and the establishment Pubbies handle this one?

Harvard Pilgrim cancels Medicare Advantage plan
http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/09/28/harvard_pilgrim_

Seniors’ coverage options dwindle as Medicare Advantage programs close shop
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-advantage_22bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c912a9.html

Survey in New England Journal of Medicine 46% of US Doctors Will Quit Obamacare Passes http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75

ObamaCare has just made me Sicker!
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/bamcare_has_just_made_me_icker_c1dBRZ6M3yuH27rAVnLsvN

In the notice, EmblemHealth told Gowland, who is healthy, “The proposed rate increase includes two components: a basic increase on your type plan and an increase due to the cost of enhanced benefits required by the new federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”

Mayo clinic stops taking Medicare patients
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004

Principal To Cut Jobs, End Med Insurance Business
http://www.kcci.com/money/25224059/detail.html

Obama: We knew health costs would go up
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/118079-obama-we-knew-health-costs-would-go-up

President Barack Obama insisted he can overhaul the U.S. healthcare system without raising taxes for anyone but the wealthiest Americans

The New Federal Wedding Tax: How Obamacare Would Dramatically Penalize Marriage
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/01/The-New-Federal-Wedding-Tax-How-Obamacare-Would-Dramatically-Penalize-Marriage

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1099: The Trojan Horse within Obamacare
http://palmettoinsider.com/2010/09/21/1099-the-trojan-horse-within-obamacare/

Repeal Obamacare: Small-Business Killer
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38496

Senate Expands IRS Form 1099 Reporting Requirement to Include All Rental Property Owner
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75911

Paperwork nightmare: New 1099 mandate must be repealed
http://billingsgazette.com/news/opinion/guest/article_61e61666-bbc1-11df-b2c3-001cc4c002e0.html

Health care law*s massive, hidden tax change( 1099*s)
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/index.htm

Lost in Taxation, The IRS*s vast new ObamaCare powers.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365223062942574.html?mod=rss_opinion_main


48 posted on 10/15/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: trumandogz
If a retired person needs $250.00 in order to survive, it is a strong indication that they were not financially responsible.

I didn't say that I needed it but that I am a "responsible" person and that there are lots of us at F.R.

I've been retired since I was 54 years old and have never needed "government money".

49 posted on 10/15/2010 2:08:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: trumandogz

Even those of us who did/have lived responsibly are finding it difficult to supplement SS with retirement funds.

I can remember when 8% was considered moderate-low rate of return. My 4% CDs renewed at 2%. Now, they are up for renewal again and the rate is 1%.

Money Markets are even worse, with the average around 0.25%.
50 posted on 10/15/2010 2:11:47 PM PDT by TomGuy
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