Skip to comments.Pentagon to comply with court order to end 'don't ask, don't tell'
Posted on 10/15/2010 2:24:37 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
The Pentagon announced Thursday that it will comply with a court order to stop enforcing its "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring gays from serving openly in the military, even as the Obama administration asked a federal judge to delay implementation of the ruling.
Officials say they need time to institute new policies to ensure that the change won't affect combat readiness or morale. The administration has said it will appeal the ruling to the the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.
In the meantime, "the Department of Defense will of course obey the law," Col. Dave Lapan, a department spokesman, said in an e-mail to reporters. The Pentagon will cease investigations and discharges of service members found to be in violation of the policy, officials said.
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Bringing a tragic new meaning to the word “Foxhole.” :(
I’m looking forward to new methods of attacking our enemies, such as the bitch slap. That will show em! After all, the Europeans armies are feared throughout the world right?
This was predictable. This admin isn’t about to fight this - it’s an agenda item accomplished by court order. Who needs the people or their reps?
The next thing you’re going to see is the new “Hate Crimes Court Marshall” tribunal. Oh, goody!
If DADT is struck down, what is preventing a return to a pre-DADT policy? No new policy or legislation is in place.
What about the folks already serving that did not sign up for the type of duty this capitulation will guarantee?
I think the Zero regime is making a faux appeal, but it’s all theater.
I guess what follows will be court martials for “gay-bashing.” It won’t matter if it really happens or not, just make the allegations, press the charges.
Oh don’t even mention you are interested in getting out right now....services are finding anything to get people out especially the Navy and AIr Force.....downsizing big time. Oops...sorry rightsizing.
"Officials say they need time to institute new policies to ensure that the change won't affect combat readiness or morale."
This is how this works. The President & staff will get an injunction, and the Supreme Court will rule that he has authority over this...and that a judge can’t make such a ruling.
Then we proceed into 2011, with the President stating that he doesn’t have the authority but the Republican House and Republican Senate do...so he wants them to vote on this (which they won’t list in their top twenty things to get done in 2011). The President will comment about this constantly...along with immigration reform (for Latinos)....and special interests. So DADT will continue through all of 2011 and 2012....being used as a political tool. The President can issue an executive order just like Ike....and fix this if he wants. The second piece that would require modification is the court martial book for the military....which would require a page or two of modification...which again....he could do if he wants.
The comical thing here? Think about this....for 18 years DADT stood. Now some Log Cabin Republicans get the right judge and trigger this episode? Any President has authority to cancel DADT. But he really doesn’t want that to happen as long as the Republicans can be forced into the corner over this.
The "diversity police" will start counting the numbers and demand quotas for BLTG promotions.
Meaning, all heterosexuals will quickly be purged from the military with less than honorable discharges?
Starting with alleged anti-gay wisecracks allegedly told while waiting in mess hall or latrine lines?
Leaving the US with a Euro-disco military to fight the Red Chinese in the next Korean War??
Why don’t we just spare ourselves the indignity and surrender to Kid Potato Head now.
They are Republicans because they believe they have to infiltrate the GOP ranks to acheive their agenda on homosexuality.
Michael Moore has suggested a similar tactic for liberals to take over the NRA and thwart it by becoming dues paying members and electing someone like Moore as president.
There is a law.
And there is an Executive order.
The executive order signed by Bill Clinton is the DA/DT policy.
The law still stands. It says YOU MUST ask, and if Gay -you’re out....
But I suspect, the law won’t be followed or the policy.
Log Cabin splinters as gay conservatives exit
The Washington Times ^ | April 15, 2009 | S. A. Miller
A couple of former Log Cabin staffers broke off to form GOProud, a new political advocacy group, amid complaints the older organization was aligned too closely with liberal gay and lesbian causes and failed to provide an effective voice in Washington for gay Republicans...
The Log Cabin Republicans’ “left-of-center positions on important issues have bothered me ... ,” Bruce Carroll, a persistent LCR critic, wrote on his GayPatriot.net blog, applauding the new group.
He continued: “LCR’s silence and unwillingness to stand up and be vocal on true gay conservative issues (outing of Republican staffers, increasing threat of gays being selectively aborted, peril gays face by Islamic extremists) has been mind-boggling. And LCR’s continued obsession in trashing Republicans, yet letting Democrats get a pass on their gay-related hypocrisies, has been infuriating.”
...”The inheritance tax is really a gay tax,” said Mr. LaSalvia, noting that without same-sex marriage, there is no tax exemption for inheritance from a gay partner. That’s the type of policy the traditional gay lobby isn’t going to touch.
At least they’ll find out hwo the skilled pipe cleaners are and will be abe to assign them cleaning duties accordingly.
How would you reconcile that footdragging scenario with the fallout Obama might receive based on allegations that he is actually gay and has any number of gay lovers? If Obama is gay he would have to make it clear that policy has in fact shifted no matter what the admin does on paper and that it is in fact good for gays both in and out of the military to have a temporary foot dragging strategy right now. Hmm, let’s see... if so, Obama might be expected to come out and say that it will take a couple of years to ensure policies are changed to protect against conservative backlash in the military ranks, deflecting blame off him and onto conservatives and heterosexuals. I imagine we’ll see soon enough...
I would intentionally loudly say a filthy anti-gay wisecrack in the presence of my Company CO and be pleased to get a less than honorable discharge to get out of today’s excuse for a military. I don’t tolerate queers very well. I would be having a hard time serving under a communist, Moslem CiC, too.
An army of rump-rangers and limp-wristed faggots, where real men will NOT join to be bunking with the perverts.
America; we hardly knew ye.....
Military personnel who are forced to live and shower in cramped close quarters aren’t going to tolerate this pro-gay PC bullcr@p no matter how many commander’s policy letters, mandatory classes and sensitivity training sessions are thrown at them.
There will be tragic outcomes to the repeal of DADT as much as there are soldiers who would sooner face a capital general court-martial rather than surrender their bodily integrity.
Obama is CIC. He’s essentially ordered this as the judge is beyond his Constitutional authority.
Can the Republican party issue a "cease and desist" order to have them stop appropriating the title "Republican" as it is slander? (Not that the GOP would ever do this.)
Where does the president get the authority to waive his fairy wand and undo passed law?
God will NOT honor a nation that elevates perversion to a “right”, no way, that’s already been demonstrated. Then there’s the aspect of tainted blood supply for combat needs, the insanity is unbelievable. Total lack of common-sense and morals.
I just think of those poor Chilean miners underground in close quarters all that time. Can you imagine if a couple homosexuals was down there with them? It would have destroyed the cohesive unit and really bring down morale.
Our military has to be in close quarters too. I pray for the future of this country.
EXACTLY!! DADT was a middle of the road compromise between the UCMJ’s outright ban on Homosexuals in the military and “open enrollment”. Without changes to the UCMJ to expressly permit or to eliminate any Articles which directly or indirectly restrict homosexual acts (e.g., Art 120 and 125), the military is not just free but required to comply with the laws in existance prior to DADT.
Ah, yes, and Marines wearing camouflage ballerina tutu’s??
Want the PC Crap to stop?
Require every Officer and NCO serve alternate tours as a Combat Arms Officer/NCO then in a Combat Support or Combat Service Support.
Require Males achieve a Max PFT Score to Qualify to become an Officer or NCO..require the same from any Female based upon the same Male PFT standard (mustn't discriminate right?). Require an Expert Qualification on the Rifle and Pistol range . Set the Bar higher across the board.
Make everyone perform the 3 S's together irrespective of sex.
Tear down those permanent barracks and put everyone back into tents or mobile structures.. (Why spend money on buildings in the US when the mission requires troops to live in the field overseas.. Better to practice field conditions every day.
Require of everyone not deployed a monthly 12mile run/walk in 2 hours or less with 75lb Rucksack or kick them the hell out.
Nothing will work better to get the Feather Merchants out of the Marines and Army.. All the special interest groups want special privilege.. let them bleed and suffer like line troops, Officers and NCOs..
Make everyone pay the price to wear the Uniform and you will see things get back to the way they should be in a hurry..
Your not discriminating on the bases of race, sex or sexual orientation.. You just set the bar to where those special classes will no longer be willing to pay the price while Hicks from the sticks those “bitter clingers to their Bibles and Guns will and laugh Soldier On.
I watched a Bn of Marine Infantry Tejanos start humping at 0500 and finally stop around 1800 and keep it up for days. That will break the uncommitted in a heartbeat. They were not "Special" any thing other than Grunts.. Impressive is the word.
Solve the problem of special interests taking over and degrading the Marines and Army?.... Easy as pie..
W * The real reason women have degraded readiness lies with Women Officers and or Flag Officers. Far too many of both do not comprehend the meaning of Service..It is about them or their Careers not what is best for the Nation.. Female Officers in their Quest to become "Patton" have shoved enlisted females into fields where they are poorly suited and by extension derided fields where the unique characteristics of women results in their performing better with less complications. Upper Body Strength is not something anyone honestly can ignore in the Military from Line troops to Tank Mechanics the ability to manipulate heavy objects and perform hard labor is a big part of the job (a single track block for a tank weighs in around 250Lbs) and Alternator on some vehicles weighs 75lbs. If you cannot manipulate those objects or must get help to do so.. your not performing the Job. To be just a general mechanic the standard in the Army is to be able to carry your hand 75lb tool box 100yards then get to work. If you took 100 female mechanics today maybe 20 could perform that simple task.. The result is the male mechanics must do not only their assigned jobs but assist the females as well.. That reality does not help force readiness. It is also dishonest to pretend females can successfully perform the mission.. Electronic Tech? sure why not.. more importantly why not be honest about it. We do not let every male become a Marine.. Become as Seal or SF Troop.. why let anyone hold down a task they cannot perform for the sake of Political Correctness? Such dishonesty ultimately costs lives. W
Probably will be important if the need for a transfusion arises.
That’s it? It’s over now?
Isn’t that special, the way they whine and bitch about everything.
I’ll say it again: LCR can pound sand, or more likely, each other. You will never ever have an ounce of credibility with me. You have nothing to be proud of when you reveal your personal proclivities are more important than defending this nation and the free world against jihadi terrorists and other evildoers. You do not love, or understand, this Great Nation.
If they had pulled this stuff with the Continental Army, they would have been taken out and shot before sundown.
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