Skip to comments.What the Tea Partiers Really Want (Best Essay on American Values I've ever read)
Posted on 10/16/2010 9:50:44 PM PDT by 11th_VAEdited on 10/17/2010 8:17:35 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
The passion behind the populist insurgency is less about liberty than a particularly American idea of karma.
...the law of karma says that for every action, there is an equal and morally commensurate reaction. Kindness, honesty and hard work will (eventually) bring good fortune; cruelty, deceit and laziness will (eventually) bring suffering. No divine intervention is required; it’s just a law of the universe, like gravity.
...suppose you learned that politicians were devising policies that might, as a side effect of their enactment, nullify the law of karma. Bad deeds would no longer lead to bad outcomes, and the fragile moral order of our nation would break apart. For tea partiers, this scenario is not science fiction. It is the last 80 years of American history.
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He must be the one and only psychologist who hasn’t lost his mind while getting a degree of such questionable worth
ref for later
Ping for a great article.
as one with 2 psychologists for neighbors, I would agree.
they are both looney tunes.
Ignorant. Without the social conservatives, you would have no TEA Party.
Pretty good article. The description, while not 100% correct, is fairly accurate. One caveat - I don’t think you can throw people into distinct “libertarian”, “liberal”, and “conservative” categories. Well, maybe the liberal category stands alone, but there are gray areas where the libertarian and conservatives overlap. I know that I sit somewhere between the two, and lean towards not just economic liberty but to a certain extent, social liberty as well.
I thought they were the same thing. (Scratching my head.) I mean, set aside the rosy rhetoric of the liberal, and you have a government engaged in coercion and repression. How is one to achieve their full potential without overcoming the challenges of life? Without the freedom to develop competence and wisdom? There is no wisdom in governments.
I’m a TEA Partier, Bozo, and VERY conservative. I pray to God the energy builds and we take our country back to its founding principles. Those founding principles are socially conservative.
The only one I’ve heard (or seen) ranting about the views of others in the movement is you. Get with the program or get out of our way.
The original Tea Party knew that a virtuous society was the only way to be a free society....they go hand in hand and if we drop the virtues, it is not possible for the "economics" to be successful.
My Nigerian professor said that moral relativism always will lead to chaos and more regulation and bribes as in his country. Moral Absolutes was the foundation that united this country and made it great and created the underlying trust that all economic systems, especially Capitalism needs. All the Founders knew that a religious and virtuous people were needed for this government and the Tea Party is trying to get back to the original intent of that document. You are saying that the Tea Party ignore the main item which made this country the best in the history of man.
Perhaps I’m confused, but I don’t see anything about social regulation in the constitution. Can you point out to me where the government gets the authority to tell me what kind of life I should lead, who I have to work with, who I have to hire, etc...?
Social issues have no place on the floor of congress, period. If it is doing things that influence social behavior one way or the other, it is way out in the weeds and likely should not be doing it.
We want the government off our backs and out of our wallets, not in our faces with a different spin.
“Social Conservatives will be the downfall of the Tea Party Movement.”
The tea party institution in congress will have to be protected, and cleansed from time to time. I will hate seeing a “Tea Party Caucus” in congress. Status quo politicians (your Social Conservatives) will worm themselves into any official caucus for their own ends. Watch how may of their ilk suddenly start calling themselves Tea Party Caucus members once they see where the power is shifting. When I hear people like Hatch and McCaine start claiming they are Tea Partiers, I will violently expel the contents of my stomach onto the ground.
I’d prefer to see any admission into the soon to be elite group carefully guarded. I’d also like to caution that the “T” and “P” should remain lower case.
Right on !
I would really take issue with that. The vast majority of Americans didn't show any care whatsoever as freedoms were eroded over the past 20-or-so years.
The reality is that the Tea Partiers have been kicked out of their debt-subsidized comfort zones and they want back in. They've been forced to swallow the blue pill when they really just wanted to keep taking red pills.
The real dose of cold water for them was when they realized that socialized medicine was going to disrupt our case of national hypochondria. That was accompanied by another dose when family members started being hit in the wallet by the poor economy.
In years past I've stood shoulder-to-shoulder with other Freepers to protest the loss of freedoms - and we were always woefully-outnumbered by our opponents on the left. Where were all these "sons of liberty" then?
I don't think most Tea Partiers are too concerned with their freedom - they just want their red pills back. Red pills that they can no longer continue to pay for with money loaned to them by the third world.