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Poll: Obama's 2008 Coalition Dispirited and Crumbling; Reps Stand to Benefit on Election Day
The Canadian Press ^ | Sunday, October 17, 2010 | Stephen R. Hurst

Posted on 10/17/2010 12:09:09 PM PDT by kristinn

President Barack Obama is taking his popular wife with him to three campaign stops in the pivotal swing state of Ohio Sunday, but a new Associated Press Poll shows that may be too little, too late with just over two weeks remaining before critical congressional elections.

The survey found that the coalition of voters that swept Obama into the White House just two years ago — aching for change after the eight-year presidency of Republican George W. Bush — has crumbled.

SNIP

The Associated Press-Knowledge Networks survey found that one-fourth of those who voted for Obama two years ago are defecting to the Republicans or considering voting against the party in power in the Nov. 2 election. Many in that number say their switch is more a symbol of anger at the Democrats than a vote in support of the Republicans.

Significantly and in a sign of fundamental voter dissatisfaction with both parties, just as many people who backed Republican presidential nominee John McCain are either supporting Democrats now or still considering how to vote.

The problem for Democrats is that just half of Obama's supporters in the 2008 race say they definitely will show up to vote on Nov. 2, according to the poll. At the same time, the poll found that two-thirds of McCain supporters say they are certain to vote.

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To find out how the electorate's political views have changed since the 2008 election, the AP and Knowledge Networks re-interviewed the same 1,254 people who were part of a random sample of Americans surveyed up to 11 times throughout the 2008 campaign by the two organizations and Yahoo News. The recent interviews occurred Sept. 17 to Oct. 7.

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; barackobama; benefit; buyersremorse; coalition; crumbling; democrats; dispirited; election; electionday; michelleobama; obama; obamas; poll; polls; reps; republicans; stand
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Dispirited and crumbling. Keep the heat on, just a few more weeks to go. Then it'll be crushed and demoralized.
1 posted on 10/17/2010 12:09:15 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

I’m still baffled by all the claims of M.O.’s “popularity.” Despicable woman, hates her country, probably hates her husband, that is, except for him opening doors to wealth and power. Wish she’d take her boob-belt and just go away.


2 posted on 10/17/2010 12:12:22 PM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: kristinn

OH yeah. do not let them up. The BB’ers let these people escape political oblivion in the 70’s. NOW is the time to bury this sick ideology ONCE AND FOR ALL.( Yeah I know it always comes slithering back as history has shown)


3 posted on 10/17/2010 12:14:20 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: kristinn

The Axis of Hopey-Changey


4 posted on 10/17/2010 12:14:48 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: kristinn

So they think that repeating “the popular First Lady, Michelle Obama” line will somehow make it so? Popular in radical circles, amongst some blacks and die-hard Lefty Democrats perhaps. Everywhere else? Not so much. Does anyone here actually know someone who thinks Dear Leader and/or Moochelle are the bee’s knees?


5 posted on 10/17/2010 12:17:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: kristinn
The survey found that the coalition of voters that swept Obama into the White House just two years ago — aching for change after the eight-year presidency of Republican George W. Bush — has crumbled.

Well, they got change.

Even morons eventually realize that there's bad change, worse change and OBama change.

It's like a jumbo jet where all the passengers elect to allow the pilot be the bozo with the best bullshit. The clown had never been in an airplane before...

6 posted on 10/17/2010 12:20:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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“President Barack Obama is taking his popular wife with him to three campaign stops in the pivotal swing state of Ohio Sunday, but a new Associated Press Poll shows that may be too little, too late with just over two weeks remaining before critical congressional elections.”

Too little, too late? Everywhere obummer campaigns for RATs, it’s the kiss of death. Guess the OH and MA RATs want to help him keep that streak alive.


7 posted on 10/17/2010 12:21:35 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 16 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Publius6961

May I share quote of the week?
From
If I didn’t know better, I’d think that his idea of progressivism is less about helping those who need help, and more about finding ways to put money into their own pockets, so they can engage in their various feel-good hobbies without the bother of actually working for a living.
In sum, politics and the exercise of “moral authority” as a business opportunity.

from ‘conservatism-is-compassionate’

it’s all about money


8 posted on 10/17/2010 12:22:55 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Michelle is the popular one, what does that say about her husband?


9 posted on 10/17/2010 12:25:35 PM PDT by altura
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To: MizSterious

thinking: "I hate you, your country, and and even your croissants"

10 posted on 10/17/2010 12:30:23 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: griswold3

‘In sum, politics and the exercise of “moral authority” as a business opportunity.’

Oh, that’s the corrupted Democrat party right there in a nutshell. Oh, and the purists in the party are socialists and communists. Nice bunch, huh?


11 posted on 10/17/2010 12:31:02 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 16 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: MizSterious
I’m still baffled by all the claims of M.O.’s “popularity.”

Me too. I think they're trying to psych us out.

12 posted on 10/17/2010 12:34:54 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: kristinn
Saw this on another forum, no idea where it came from or if it has any credibility whatsoever:

White House Insider: Obama Battling Severe Depression
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world...re-depression/

Our political insider details reports originating from inside the White House regarding President Obama having become increasingly depressed and uncertain over how to proceed following the impending midterm elections in November – elections that appear poised to sweep Democrats from power in Congress.







So you state that President Obama is depressed? How did you come by this information?
From a direct source still working within the White House on a daily basis. As I had stated previously, tensions at the White House have reached a critical stage. The infighting among staff is off the charts. More recently, the president has increasingly withdrawn emotionally from the day to day demands of his job – he has become what was described to me as “empty”.


Empty?
That is correct – empty.



Do you mean to say the president is not doing his job?
Not exactly. He is there, he is getting briefed throughout the day, but President Obama appears to have emotionally shut down, not entirely mind you, but a great deal. It has worsened since I was last there. His natural detachment has become almost chronic to the point of being disconcerting to staff around him. It appears President Obama is suffering from severe depression.


You’re not a doctor, how are you qualified to make such a charge?
No, I’m not a doctor, but from all the reports coming back to me, and from what I did see with my own eyes prior to leaving the White House myself, I think it is a very reasonable assumption to make. President Obama is emotionally shutting down. He is a terribly depressed man.


And why do you think this is happening?
Well for one, he was completely unprepared for the job of being President of the United States. The demands on one’s time, the emotional and physical toll, are considerable. Second, the failure of the administration to effectively communicate to the American people. You have to understand that Obama believed that his ability to orate would be enough – that is proving to have been a considerable mistake on Obama’s part, and he is not dealing particularly well with that reality.


But you are no longer at the White House, correct?
That is correct.


So why then should your opinion on the condition of President Obama be viewed as legitimate?
I certainly understand a healthy dose of scepticism. I still wish to remain anonymous, and for those still supporting the president, I would understand how they would wish to dismiss any reports that diminish President Obama in any way. The fact remains though, I know what I know. And I know what I have been told by very reliable sources still at the White House. There are staff increasingly dissatisfied with this president. When that happens, word starts to get out.


But still…(interrupting)
I would also add what you well know. I have been quite accurate on my previous discussions with you. I indicated there would be a mass exodus of staff from the White House days and even weeks prior to those leaving became public. Larry, David, Rahm, and more have or are in the process of leaving. Your readers need only check the dates of when you published with the public announcements of those departures to confirm that fact. I have been very truthful. I indicated Pelosi was under intense pressure and challenge from within her own party. That has also proven to be accurate. What I have told you to date has been the very thing that has developed surrounding the White House – and what I am telling you now is also just as accurate.


But why share it with me and not others? (smiles)
Well, for one, we know each other, correct? There is that. You do your little blogging ventures, both great and small, and I do my thing. Second, I am using you just as much as you are using me. Let’s not pretend that is not the case. If someone who could do me harm professionally for having shared this information with you attempts to do so, I have a certain degree of deniability based on your own near inconsequential standing – no disrespect intended. I would also add that you are not the only one I am talking to. Lastly, call this process a test balloon, the kind that is often run up in politics. We are gauging the reaction by those within the party, as well as critical supporters outside the party. In essence – can we count on Obama for 2012? We are conceding November 2010. We are about to get our asses kicked. Ok, so be it – let’s get our –expletive- together for 2012. The most critical component of that of course, is Barack Obama. Will he hold up? Can he prove as effective a candidate for 2012 as he was in 2008?


But you indicated before you did not think another four years of an Obama administration would be good for the country. And now you are saying he is suffering from depression. Why would the Democratic Party want to run Obama again in 2012?
Well for one, he’s the sitting president. To attempt to not have him as our nominee would be a significant disruption to the party, a disruption that may prove difficult to recover from in the near-term. Second, I stated that another four years, if they were like these first two years, would not be good for the country. I still believe that, but also I am still hopeful the president can realize his potential, reinvigorate himself to the job, and become the president I and others still believe he can in fact be.


So just how bad is the president’s depression?
It is my understanding it is pretty bad.



Is he being treated?
You will need to be more specific, do you mean by a doctor?


Yes.
Well of course he is being treated. He’s the President of the United States.



What I mean specifically is medication. Is the president receiving medication for his depression? (Long pause)
I believe…yes, I believe he is. I believe he has been for some time actually. As to something more specific, I do not know. Nor do I care to say.


Just to confirm then – it is your belief that President Obama is on anti-depression medication?
Yes – that is what I just told you.


And you are ok with my printing that?
Yeah, or I wouldn’t have told you. I see no shame in being treated for such a condition. I think it much better someone dealing with that kind of thing by getting proper treatment. It’s far better than the damn smoking.


Smoking? The president is still smoking then?
Yeah – I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Yeah, the president is still smoking. The problem is, he’s apparently smoking a great deal, and for a man approaching his 50th year, having smoked for so long, that cannot be a good thing. I’ll put it this way – the smoking is considerable enough that it has become an issue.

An issue? Who has the issue specifically?
I would assume his family. I know the White House – his staff. Certainly his doctors. They have noted the increase in his smoking over the last year. It has apparently alarmed some of them considerably.


So what are we talking about here? More than a pack a day?
Oh yeah, more than that. The guy is under a lot of stress, that is no secret. I smoked for a long time myself. It is a very tough thing to quit successfully, so I certainly know about the struggle to try and do so.


So how would you describe the overall mood of the White House these days?
Troubled. Concerned. Uncertain. And angry. A lot of anger.


And what about the mood of the president himself?
The same.


You have been kind enough to leave our readers with a tidbit of information to further prove the validity of your claims. What can you leave us with this time regarding what is coming from the White House or the Democratic Party that has not yet been picked up by the mainstream media?



Just prior to the midterm elections, a significant figure within the party is going to break out and talk publicly to the media about much of what has and is going on both at the White House and Congress. We need to have a bit of a cleansing process as a party, and this individual is now willing to do just that. It may actually be more than one. From there we can start the process of rebuilding and recovery. It will be much the same as we did back in 1994. That playbook is still as legitimate today as it was then. Don’t count out the Democratic Party – we will be back, and back in a big way, and I still believe back in time for 2012.


Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/world...#ixzz12dfQP1uG

13 posted on 10/17/2010 12:36:23 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This explains the frenetic cross-country campainging and the kitchen sink tactics. Axelrod has been seeing the mass desertion by Obama voters coming.

Like a husband facing his wife moving out on him, Obama is running around trying to remind people of how great it was to be seduced by him two years ago while warning about the guy the voters are about to take up with. (Cue 'You've Lost That Loving Feeling' by the Righteous Brothers.)

14 posted on 10/17/2010 12:37:16 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: kristinn
President Barack Obama is taking his popular wife...

Nothing like blowing your credibility in the first sentence.

15 posted on 10/17/2010 12:37:19 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; quidam

Quidam was much more fun and clever with the rumor-mongering.


16 posted on 10/17/2010 12:39:57 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: kristinn

“popular wife”

Is this an adjective that has to be used every time his wife is mentioned? It reminds me of “billionaire-Ross Perot” or “bumbling-President Bush”?


17 posted on 10/17/2010 12:42:27 PM PDT by maica (Freeper 'rllngrk33' coined the acronym 'LAME' the other day...'Liberal Activist Media Establishment')
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To: kristinn
I think that Obama and the Great Cow should come up here and give their support to Carol Che-Porter, she is down by 10.

I ran across a woman at the Local Market Basket and gave her one of my Che-Porter stickers. She had worked for Che's father and was totally Baffled how she had turned out. The term was LOW, in old fashioned woman talk not a good thing.

18 posted on 10/17/2010 12:43:42 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: kristinn
Fresh from three straight days of events in Delaware, Massachusetts and Ohio, Obama heads to the West for stops in Portland, Oregon, on Wednesday, Seattle and San Francisco on Thursday, Los Angeles and Las Vegas on Friday and Minneapolis next Saturday.

Interesting itinerary. What do Delaware, Massachusetts, Ohio, Oregon, Washington, California, Nevada, and Minnesota have in common? That's right: eight blue states, zero red states. And what does that tell us? Right again: the Dems are playing defense. It's always good to confront your enemy on your enemy's turf.

Perhaps I should apologize for calling some of these, most notably Ohio and Nevada, "blue states," but they were so in 2008. I don't think either will be in 2010 or 2012.

19 posted on 10/17/2010 12:45:54 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: kristinn

With this momentum, we need to start pushing for repeal of the 16th Amendment, 17th Amendment and of course term limits. Now and beyond election day.


20 posted on 10/17/2010 12:46:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Baraq’s Toxic Coattails

(love the sound of that phrase)


21 posted on 10/17/2010 12:49:46 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Her personality is even uglier than the jackass.


22 posted on 10/17/2010 12:52:10 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: italianquaker

nt


23 posted on 10/17/2010 12:52:47 PM PDT by italianquaker ( teabag the vote!!)
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To: kristinn

The strategy should be to set the bar as high as possible to reap the full benefit of this political momentum.

On the table should be a consideration of the repeal of 16th & 17th Amendments, eliminating the Department of Education, the EPA, and as many others as can be rationally discussed.


24 posted on 10/17/2010 12:54:33 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: MizSterious
I’m still baffled by all the claims of M.O.’s “popularity.”

That's just it. They're only claims. MOchelle is only (marginally) popular among the hard-core left and liberal Democrat blacks.

She's graceless, tasteless, tactless, and mean. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then millions of horrifically damning 'words' have already been said about this awful woman.

What other First Lady have you ever seen with a permanent 10,000 kilowatt scowl? That alone, says everything about her.

25 posted on 10/17/2010 12:58:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kristinn
The Associated Press-Knowledge Networks survey found that one-fourth of those who voted for Obama two years ago are defecting to the Republicans or considering voting against the party in power in the Nov. 2 election.

That's the key right there.

26 posted on 10/17/2010 12:58:55 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: kristinn
Do you have any idead how hard it is to keep together a coalition of illegal alien Mexican supremacists, black separatists, Islamic terrorists, transsexual prostitutes, dead voters, and Ron Howard?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 10/17/2010 1:14:29 PM PDT by The Comedian (They Live. We Sleep.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
So just how bad is the president’s depression?

It is my understanding it is pretty bad.

Here.


28 posted on 10/17/2010 1:21:55 PM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Mother...My Couric itches.")
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To: kristinn
President Barack Obama is taking his popular wife with him...

He has two wives?

29 posted on 10/17/2010 1:26:33 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Doogle

There is complete, unedited, naked hatred in that glare.


30 posted on 10/17/2010 1:31:53 PM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Doogle
thinking: "I hate you, your country, and and even your croissants"

How disgusting that this woman in the position of First Lady refuses to be polite when representing our country. Laura Bush always put our country first whether she felt like it or not. She had class. This woman has no class. She insulted the Queen too,when in Britain.

She is a disgrace to American black people. I'm sorry, our good black citizens must be dissappointed and embarassed by this behaviour of our first black First Lady.

31 posted on 10/17/2010 2:08:05 PM PDT by tommix2
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To: Gorzaloon
Yeah.


32 posted on 10/17/2010 2:22:05 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: The Comedian

Well, they are the only ones PBO has got left of his coaliton. Everyone else has either gone tea party conservative, planning to vote straight conservative GOP, indy, or are too discouraged to even bother to vote.


33 posted on 10/17/2010 2:26:37 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: MizSterious

The media, aware that Obama is an abject failure, is grasping for any lifeline available. They think it is his wife; however, no matter how popular they try to make her, she is still damaged goods.


34 posted on 10/17/2010 2:47:27 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: MizSterious

Yes, and I’m also sick of how the MSM is constantly swooning over how glamorous she is. Just like Venus Williams after a million dollar makeover, she still looks like something your hound dog dragged in.


35 posted on 10/17/2010 2:49:39 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: kristinn

Let us hope this trend continues


36 posted on 10/17/2010 3:10:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: MizSterious

I am stunned by all the media outlets that treat the Wookie like she is fashionable and all that. How can they even choke out a lie like that?

It’s all politics of course.


37 posted on 10/17/2010 3:14:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: The Comedian

lol

Once they win they’ll be trying to kill each other


38 posted on 10/17/2010 3:21:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: MizSterious

First ladies, on a very generic basis, are often “popular”, in that they’re not considered part of the political stuff going on with their presidential husbands.

If Moochelle were to be compared to other first ladies, I imagine, she’d be waaaaay down on the list.

Just a hunch.


39 posted on 10/17/2010 3:29:42 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Marty62

Who are the BB’ers?


40 posted on 10/17/2010 3:30:30 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: kristinn
Significantly and in a sign of fundamental voter dissatisfaction with both parties, just as many people who backed Republican presidential nominee John McCain are either supporting Democrats now or still considering how to vote.

How many people could be that stupid?
41 posted on 10/17/2010 3:39:37 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: kristinn

Looks like this weeks mantra fom central Communist News control will be...Extremeists...


42 posted on 10/17/2010 3:39:49 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: COBOL2Java

Well you gave me a big laff for my day.


43 posted on 10/17/2010 3:40:32 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fishtalk

“...dispirited and crumbling...” Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


44 posted on 10/17/2010 4:01:39 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Yes, and I’m also sick of how the MSM is constantly swooning over how glamorous she is.

Especially considering that they never raved about Laura Bush, nor do they rave about Sarah Palin. They both are classy and impeccable dressers. Even when Palin is hunting or fishing she still manages to emit class.

45 posted on 10/17/2010 4:02:56 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Fishtalk

Baby Boomers.


46 posted on 10/17/2010 4:22:18 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: kristinn

Did Google completely change the link after you posted this? The current link has nothing about a poll.


47 posted on 10/17/2010 4:41:06 PM PDT by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: kristinn

“Dispirited and crumbling”

Exactly how I like my libs. Turn ‘em on a spit until they’re all nice and crumbly. Yum...


48 posted on 10/17/2010 4:52:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: upchuck

Imagine that. They rewrote the headline and the article but kept the same URL. This is a good example of why FR wanted to be able to post full text versions of articles.


49 posted on 10/17/2010 4:57:39 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: Admin Moderator; upchuck

As upchuck noted, Google News and the Canadian Press (aka the AP) have rewritten the headline and article but have kept the same URL. At least we’ve got this excerpt of the original for the record.


50 posted on 10/17/2010 5:00:26 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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