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1 posted on 10/17/2010 2:34:48 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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...will help students like Neff be more independent and get better jobs.

What jobs? Someone isn't paying attention to Barry's "new norm".

2 posted on 10/17/2010 2:37:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Public Servants Gone Wild".)
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Wrong title. “Intellectually Disabled” is the term that applies to how most students come out of college these days.


3 posted on 10/17/2010 2:37:57 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (If my kids make a mistake in the voting booth, I don't want them punished with a community organizer)
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This, and they take up space in public universities that should go to others.


4 posted on 10/17/2010 2:38:01 PM PDT by whitedog57
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This says more about the (lack of) value of a modern college education than anything else.


5 posted on 10/17/2010 2:38:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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Barky wen t to college in the 1980s. Barky is the very definition of intelectually disabled.


7 posted on 10/17/2010 2:42:43 PM PDT by jospehm20
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Downs? He should get a full ride for a degree in Poli-Sci.


10 posted on 10/17/2010 2:47:21 PM PDT by badgerlandjim
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Great, they want to turn college educations into what high school educations have become. Worthless.


11 posted on 10/17/2010 2:49:31 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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I don't know what to say here--I do not want to be crass, but programs like this might be better suited at the local community college level, rather than the "higher" University level. I do not begrudge any education to anybody, especially if they are willing to pay for it. But do my tax dollars need to go to fund the education any student, intellectually disabled or not. Granted I got taxpayer funding through the G.I Bill--but that was the agreement I made when I signed on the dotted line.

I have would have no problem with limited tax payer funding of student education, say for doctors, etc--but those students upon graduation need to give back. In a new doctor's case, serve rural and under served communities. Tain't nothing free folks.

As for the intellectually disabled. I see no use in taxpayer money to fund such education, except that it makes us "feel good" In the end, what will this citizen contribute? Its a tough question and not a nice one to ask--But in these difficult economic times, they must be asked.

Now if the family, or the intellectually disabled person themselves wished to pay for their education--then of course--no problem. I just don't see scholarships and what not being granted to these students.

Its crass, I know, but in the end, its takes more than hugs to contribute to society. That's why I see this on the more local community college level.

13 posted on 10/17/2010 2:54:45 PM PDT by abigkahuna (screw em all)
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As the mother of three mentally/developmentally disabled boys I have to disagree with this. Seriously, my boys are not and will not be cut out for college or ‘white collar’ jobs. The mentally disabled CAN work and CAN hold descent jobs but to try to ‘mainstream’ my boys would be cruel to them. They are wonderful individuals that have many skills that can benefit themselves and society but to try to make them into something they are not is wrong. They are not ‘normal’ in the most accepted sense of the word but they are exactly what God wanted them to be.


14 posted on 10/17/2010 3:01:16 PM PDT by sfimom (shift key on vacation again...)
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Yep. I am a college teacher and I get official missives all the time from counselors requesting that I extend examination times, assignments content and change presentation methods to accommodate the learning disabilities (ADD, dyslexia etc) of specific students. Athough it is an adminstrative nightmare to do so, I comply to provide a good faith learning experience for all students. Having said that, I do have to wonder at the logic that “college is for everybody.”


18 posted on 10/17/2010 3:06:43 PM PDT by yetidog (/*)
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What next? Scholarships and special admissions programs for one-armed violinists?


29 posted on 10/17/2010 3:37:09 PM PDT by Clioman
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this is the all inclusive educational endeavour. a person whom is higher functioning due to having a dvelopmental disability may be able to attend college. so the person is able to socialize more. I worked for a time in a program that allowed people with developmental disabilities being employed in a supported employment setting, many of the jobs were placements in state jobs whereby the person would work in a non challenging positioning shredding documents, opening mail, discarding unused license plates and various other non challenging jobs. One problem was the socialization issue - they wanted to talk to others. a client thought it was appropriate to strip naked at the end of her shift each and every day, what a disaster.

I hated the job because having a disability myself when I asked for a reasonable accommodation the employer stated that it was not possible. I thought it was ironic - working with people with developmental disabilities accommodated when a person whom was capable of doing the job with a reasonable accommodation the employer stated it was not possible.

There is a double standard - people with developmental disabilities will be hired to do employment at no more than 600.00 a month for socialization. but a person with a disability whom is capable of employemnt with a reasonable accommodation (not being placed in the print shop for the supported employee) in turn was basically discharged from employment because the employer refused to change the work setting for one person, but the supported employee was reasonably accommodated for his position, so I filed a civil rights complaint and when getting to court the business was deemed discriminatory and paid plenty for its own stupidity. I cannot go into the details other than kind of a general sense.

I served my time in the military, injured, for a time in a wheelchair, usage of canes to get around, lungs damaged from the dust from bombing in Lebanon.

it is my desire to always work and so forth. after this i used the proceeds to go back to college get a masters degree in counseling with the proceeds from the settlement


30 posted on 10/17/2010 3:41:06 PM PDT by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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It seems to me that anyone who can cope with college is not, by definition, intellectually disabled.


36 posted on 10/17/2010 4:33:03 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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At least they will be smarter than most of the athletes.


37 posted on 10/17/2010 5:08:22 PM PDT by Ferndale
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Introducing your new Obama’s CommieCare surgical corpse...


38 posted on 10/17/2010 5:17:37 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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Very nice. Later, Mr. Neff will be able to go into politics, or possibly become a bank loan officer.


39 posted on 10/17/2010 5:18:11 PM PDT by Grut
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I never thought I would ever see it on FreeRepublic but here it is, a full thread of total ignorance.

So sad.

40 posted on 10/17/2010 5:37:54 PM PDT by New Perspective (My 6 yr old son has Down Syndrome, are you going to kill him too Obama?)
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Sure, why not? Everyone else goes to college. Having a college degree at one time was a prestigious possession. Today, it’s equivalent to a high school diploma.


42 posted on 10/17/2010 5:47:07 PM PDT by OldPossum
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More intellectually disabled youths go to college...

From there they seem to go on to take positions in Congress, the White House, and other leadership positions in the United States.

43 posted on 10/17/2010 6:41:56 PM PDT by GingisK
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