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Secret Selling of Halal Meat in the U.S.
Human Events ^ | October 16, 2010 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 10/17/2010 4:36:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

The latest submission to Islam comes to us from the meat industry in both Europe and the United States. Recently I have been reporting on the little-noted but explosive new revelations that much of the meat in Europe is being processed as halal and sold without the halal label. This is not the exception, but the rule, and the people are being betrayed by their own elected officials. And it’s happening here, too.

Yes, folks, if you’re in Europe, and in many areas in America as well, the meat you are eating is probably halal, unless you’re keeping kosher. In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a barbaric, torturous and inhuman method: Islamic slaughter.

Where are the PETA clowns and the ridiculous celebs who pose naked on giant billboards for PETA and “animal rights”? They would rather see people die of cancer or AIDS than see animals used in drug testing, but torturous and painful Islamic slaughter is OK.

Many people have written to me saying that they simply won’t eat halal meat, as they object to the methods used to slaughter the animal. And I agree. The Sharia term for halal slaughter is dhakat. Dhakat is to slaughter an animal by cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar”—in the name of Allah the greatest.

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KEYWORDS: food; halal; islam; religionofpeace
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1 posted on 10/17/2010 4:36:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Cindy; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; Diana in Wisconsin; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; metmom; ...

You don’t have to be a member of ALF or PETA to be appalled by this.


2 posted on 10/17/2010 4:38:58 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wow! No wonder! My steak tastes like pork!


3 posted on 10/17/2010 4:41:14 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Clintonfatigued

“...but torturous and painful Islamic slaughter is OK.”

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It’s what awaits those who keep on singing the same old deceptive mantra that Islam is a ROP. If it is a ROP, then why are we at war with them?


4 posted on 10/17/2010 4:48:02 PM PDT by 353FMG (Unless stopped, ISLAM will be the end of America.)
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To: 353FMG

The real war hasn’t started yet, coming to a theatre near you.....


5 posted on 10/17/2010 4:49:41 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

I dunno...I’m calling BS on this one.


6 posted on 10/17/2010 4:51:05 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, but, - a little known fact is that the meat is then dipped in pig fat before further processing. I’m not sure about the chemistry, but maybe it it has to do with enzymes.


7 posted on 10/17/2010 4:58:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Clintonfatigued

Seriously people, who gives a crap? if the animal is killed with a spike to the brain or a knife to the throat, I don’t see why anyone should care. As long as it doesn’t raise the cost of the meat, I don’t care if it’s halal or not.


8 posted on 10/17/2010 5:11:36 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: LucyT

Hey there Buckwheat, I got yo Hallal hangin’


9 posted on 10/17/2010 5:12:02 PM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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To: AndrewB
I dunno...I’m calling BS on this one.

More facts are definitely needed: like who specfically, which plants specifically? And what is the point if there is no labeling? Who would be the target market?

This is just too general.

10 posted on 10/17/2010 5:12:26 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Live Free or Die)
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To: AndrewB

Don’t. I work in a related industry, and there is a lot of pressure for beef and poultry to be slaughtered according to Halal standards.

Opens up a lot of markets, and keeps you out of trouble.


11 posted on 10/17/2010 5:25:23 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mamelukesabre

>>Seriously people, who gives a crap? if the animal is killed with a spike to the brain or a knife to the throat, I don’t see why anyone should care.<<

Christians should care. It’s not just how they slaughter the animal. It’s also dedicated to Allah as an offering. Christians may want to read the Bible to see how God feels about eating something that has been offered to idols.


12 posted on 10/17/2010 5:25:42 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Outlaw Woman
The issue is that if you have a line that is Halal, all of the meat that line handles needs to be Halal up to the point the animal enters the building (similar with Kosher).

The market is big enough for some plants to change, but not so powerful that all the production is labeled Halal.

13 posted on 10/17/2010 5:27:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CynicalBear

St Paul basicaly said it is no problem, but don’t do it as part of the sacrifical meal.


14 posted on 10/17/2010 5:28:40 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CynicalBear

allah means god. You know what name arabic speaking christians pray to? They pray to Allah. Allah is not an idol.

jehova, dios, god, allah...all the same person, all the god of abraham isaac and joseph.


15 posted on 10/17/2010 5:33:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Clintonfatigued
Dhakat is to slaughter an animal by cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, letting the blood drain out

What is the difference between this method and the kosher method of slaughtering, say, a lamb?

16 posted on 10/17/2010 5:37:01 PM PDT by olezip
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To: mamelukesabre

>> jehova, dios, god, allah...all the same person, all the god of abraham isaac and joseph<<

Are you kidding me? I don’t know where you got that idea but there is no way. Try looking a Muslim in the eye and call his god Yahweh.


17 posted on 10/17/2010 5:38:31 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: redgolum

Well, what I mean is that who really cares what method is used. If they can make some minor inexpensive alteration in the process just so they can claim Halal for those that want it, that’s just good business sense.


18 posted on 10/17/2010 5:41:46 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: CynicalBear

Listen up fool.

CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WHO SPEAK ARABIC PRAY TO ALLAH

get that?

now shove off you ignoramus.


19 posted on 10/17/2010 5:44:33 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: AndrewB

Campbell soup Canada has announced that all their soups shall henceforth be halal. I’ve purchased my last can of Campbell soup. Search “Sharia-The Threat to America.” It’s a long read, but an eye-opener.


20 posted on 10/17/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by Excellence ("A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.")
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To: CynicalBear
I think that if we unknowingly eat meat that has been offered to other gods, God will forgive us. Since now we are aware that this is done, we can always ask the butcher if he knows the history of the meat we're about to purchase.

Blessing our meals and prayer before eating is important now. It would break any curse placed upon our foods. God will take care of the rest. He's cool that way. He gives us many ways to protect ourselves just as long as we look up to Him.

21 posted on 10/17/2010 5:47:52 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: LucyT

;-)

Well, if this is true (any of it), just another reason I’m glad I’m a vegetarian...


22 posted on 10/17/2010 5:50:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

That’s fine if you’re a vegetarian, but, do you have any pets? do they eat meat? I wouldn’t want to feed my pets halal stuff.


23 posted on 10/17/2010 5:55:11 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I make their food.

In fact, I have to go look for one of them right now.


24 posted on 10/17/2010 5:57:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: olezip
Out side of the Mumbo Jumbo it is not too different from any slaughter house. The animal is killed by a knock to the head and immediately hung and bled by slitting it's throat. All animals are slaughtered in this manner. Did you really think the animals were killed by lethal injection. If this method offends you, become a Vegetarian, as animals have always been slaughtered in this manner as it is the best and safest way. Just be glad you weren't born a Pig
25 posted on 10/17/2010 5:58:18 PM PDT by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0?)
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To: mamelukesabre

Allah is God? You do not know the history of Allah. Allah is a demiurge from an animist mideastern sect. Not the God of the Jews at all. By tracing the origins of allah it is demonstrably obvious that this so called god is a demonic spirit. Do your homework before making false claims.


26 posted on 10/17/2010 5:59:18 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: mamelukesabre

My goodness. I evidently touched a sore spot.


27 posted on 10/17/2010 6:02:49 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: little jeremiah
If you make their food, are they also vegetarians?

I cook for my pets also, so I'm curious how you deal with this.

28 posted on 10/17/2010 6:03:17 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Amos the Prophet
The Aramaic for 'God' is 'Allah.' Since Jesus spoke Aramaic the word he would have used for 'God' is 'Allah.'

Peshitta.org Click 'tools' then 'lexicon' and enter 'God' in the search field.

29 posted on 10/17/2010 6:09:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: mamelukesabre

>> if the animal is killed with a spike to the brain or a knife to the throat, I don’t see why anyone should care.

Then you are blind.


30 posted on 10/17/2010 6:10:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Allah translate to God in arabic - I don’t know.
But Allah as “revealed” to that narcistic, arrogant, pedophile Mohammad (may camels poo up his nostrils) IS NOT the God that Christians worship. The Quran clearly defines an aloof, vengeful, arbitrary overlord. There ain’t no love in their god - not a bit.


31 posted on 10/17/2010 6:10:43 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: mamelukesabre; CynicalBear; Amos the Prophet
jehova, dios, god, allah...all the same person, all the god of abraham isaac and joseph.

Really? Allah has a son name Jesus Christ? Who knew?

I think it is funny that you mention "the god of abraham, isaac and joseph jacob". Even you acknowledge that it isn't the "god of abraham and ishamel" or "god of abraham, isaac and esau". I wonder why it was phrased that way in the OT?

32 posted on 10/17/2010 6:14:46 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: Clintonfatigued
But non-Muslims in America and Europe don’t deserve to have halal meat forced upon them in this way, without their knowledge or consent.

Here in America we decided to replace all the unionized meat packers with Somali Muslims. We shouldn't be surprised that they're butchering animals in accordance with the religion they brought with them after America decided we needed cheap immigrant labor in our slaughterhouses.

33 posted on 10/17/2010 6:17:11 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: TigersEye

Allah is a phase of the sun, translation “The Dawn”, interpretation: Morning Star or Rising Sun. Allah is the contracted form from Alilah and the transliteral is this: The/god/ascends. The reason for the confusion is because the word “Allah” is borrowed from the Chaldean language.

It is not a Aramaic word. More than two thousand years ago the Aramaic word for God was El, and “Elah”, which means “The God”, reading right to left. Another example is the Chaldean word for (sundown),”Me’al”, reading right to left, but also written here left to right for the english language. And as for the Arabs that did worship the God of Abraham, they called Him “Elohiym”, which means “God of the Living”.
The New testament scripture of Matthew 22:37 repeats Deu. 6:5. If this verse were represented in Hebrew, it would, show YHWH, not Allah as the one you should love as the God of you. The translations clearly show that LORD is a substitute for the word YHWH and not a replacement. The problem is the fact that “ALLAH” isn’t used as a replacement for YHWH in the Arabic bible.
Jesus is reported to have cried out in Aramaic: ELOI, ELOI,LAMA SABACHTHANI? If Allah was valid, how come Jesus called out in Aramaic “Eloi”. Although those who have translated the Bible into Arabic used allah as a term for God.

from http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2007/04/allah-origins.html


34 posted on 10/17/2010 6:22:05 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I use the vegecat supplement this place sells:

http://www.vegepet.com/

A person - actually mother and daughter - who have been very active in animal rescue, recommended this to me. I’ve been making my cats’ food for several years and the vet I’ve taken them to says they are well nourished and healthy (except for a genetic thing, they are the offspring of feral cats).

I don’t use exact recipes per se, but have a basic standard one and then add the vegecat supplement, and give them bits of this and that, plus they catch lizards, mice, and assorted bugs.


35 posted on 10/17/2010 6:22:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Amos the Prophet
It is not a Aramaic word.

Those Aramaic Christians disagree and they document it in their concordance very well.

36 posted on 10/17/2010 6:26:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

And Hebrew and all other Christian scholars disagree vehemently. Stand where you choose as will I.


37 posted on 10/17/2010 6:31:50 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: The Theophilus

Look at the origin of Allah and it becomes clear that even Muhammad knew he was starting with the moon god.

It is clear that Allah was a part of the large pantheon of gods and the idea of making Allah a monotheistic god was apparently Muhammad’s decision. There is nothing to suggest that Allah had a relationship to Jehovah God of the Bible. In fact, Allah had previously been worshipped as having three daughters that were gods themselves known as “Allah’s Trinity.” Notice this description. “Where more complex settlement patterns had developed, however, widely shared deities had already emerged, such as the ‘trinity’ of Allah’s ‘daughters’ known as al-Lat, Manat, and al-Uzzah.” (Ibid., p. 105.)


38 posted on 10/17/2010 6:32:21 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: mamelukesabre

I don’t care either. Except for pork, I only buy halal meat from local stores because it’s fresh, isn’t loaded with dye and is less expensive. Store owners are very friendly too.


39 posted on 10/17/2010 6:35:51 PM PDT by neefer (Big city turn me loose and set me free.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

No, they don’t disagree. That is simply false. I will stand by the truth.


40 posted on 10/17/2010 6:36:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: barb-tex
Did you really think the animals were killed by lethal injection. If this method offends you, become a Vegetarian, as animals have always been slaughtered in this manner as it is the best and safest way. Just be glad you weren't born a Pig

We slaughter our rabbits, chickens, ducks, and turkeys by slitting the throat and letting them bleed to death. Never heard of lethal injection, though. Do not think that would be a good thing with the addition of chemicals? It looks to me that Halal and Kosher are pretty much the same slaughter methods.

41 posted on 10/17/2010 6:36:35 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well, there is only one thing to do- eat pork. Nothing better than bacon- mmmmm!


42 posted on 10/17/2010 6:47:53 PM PDT by fini
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To: mamelukesabre

Allah translate to God in arabic - I don’t know.
But Allah as “revealed” to that narcistic, arrogant, pedophile Mohammad (may camels poo up his nostrils) IS NOT the God that Christians worship. The Quran clearly defines an aloof, vengeful, arbitrary overlord. There ain’t no love in their god - not a bit.


43 posted on 10/17/2010 6:48:54 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: TigersEye
In pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was used by Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity.[15] Allah was not considered the sole divinity; however, Allah was considered the creator of the world and the giver of rain. The notion of the term may have been vague in the Meccan religion.[4] Allah was associated with companions, whom pre-Islamic Arabs considered as subordinate deities. Meccans held that a kind of kinship existed between Allah and the jinn.[16] Allah was thought to have had sons[17] and that the local deities of al-ʻUzzá, Manāt and al-Lāt were His daughters.[18] The Meccans possibly associated angels with Allah.[19][20] Allah was invoked in times of distress.[20][21] Muhammad's father's name was ‘Abdallāh meaning the “servant of Allāh.” or "the slave of Allāh"[20] http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2007/04/allah-origins.html Believe what you will.
44 posted on 10/17/2010 6:59:58 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
I believe I provided a better source than Alan Peters. You're straining at gnats.

Aramaic is the ancient language of the Semitic family group, which includes the Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Arameans, Hebrews, and Arabs. In fact, a large part of the Hebrew and Arabic languages is borrowed from Aramaic, including the Alphabet. The modern Hebrew (square) script is called "Ashuri", "Ashuri" is the Hebrew name for Assyrian, the name being used to signify the ancestor of the Assyrians, Ashur the son of Shem, the son of Noah (Genesis 10:22). Aramaic is quoted in the very first book of the Bible, Berisheth (Genesis) in Chapter 31:47. In fact, many portions of the Old Testament are penned originally in Aramaic, including Daniel chapter 2:4 thru chapter 7.

45 posted on 10/17/2010 7:06:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Nowhere in Aramaic literature is allah synonomous with YHWH.


46 posted on 10/17/2010 7:30:22 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

And neither the word ‘YHWH’ nor ‘eloi’ appear in the Aramaic concordance.


47 posted on 10/17/2010 7:37:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: bunkerhill7

By me the many places (staffed/maybe owned by Muslims) doesn’t sell pork/ham breakfast sandwiches; it certainly is no stretch to guess that any beef product they sell is “halal”.

I guess the only way around this is to partake of the pig!


48 posted on 10/17/2010 7:51:38 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: mamelukesabre
jehova, dios, god, allah...all the same person, all the god of abraham isaac and joseph.

Wrong kemosabe. You might want to do a bit more research before spouting off what you don't know:

Is Allah really another name for God?

Did the Meccans worship Yahweh God?

Ba'al, Hubal, and Allah

Just a few above to get you started. You've been a victim of islamic propaganda to make their religion more palatable. The truth is there is a great deal of scholarly opinion out there that that Allah is not only NOT yahweh, Jehovah, God, or Dios......He's in fact Baal....a pagan deity right out of the Old Testament.

49 posted on 10/17/2010 7:59:04 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: TigersEye
The Aramaic for 'God' is 'Allah.'

Uh no. Read this link for the truth.

The number of Americans who have been deceived by this nonsense is appalling.

50 posted on 10/17/2010 8:04:42 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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