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L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca says deputies would enforce marijuana laws even if Prop. 19 passes
LA Times blog ^ | 10/15/2010 | Staff

Posted on 10/17/2010 8:27:40 PM PDT by bornred

Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said Friday his deputies’ marijuana enforcement would not change even if Proposition 19, which would legalize the drug in California, passes Nov. 2.

“Proposition 19 is not going to pass, even if it passes,” Baca said in a news conference Friday at sheriff's headquarters in Monterey Park.

Baca, whose department polices three-fourths of the county, was bolstered Friday by an announcement from the Obama administration that federal officials would continue to “vigorously enforce” marijuana laws in California, even if state voters pass the measure.

Baca said the proposition was superseded by federal law and if passed, would be found unconstitutional.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2010; cainitiatives; leebaca; marijuana; prop19
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To: Marie2
Ya got millions running around that have violated federal law and entered the country illegally during wartime, but you expect the cops take time to enforce federal law regarding pot?

Obviously the sheriffs are already picking what laws they enforce and what laws they don’t.

My question was rhetorical in nature...But thanks for the reply.

41 posted on 10/17/2010 11:24:11 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: bornred
"But wheat was a legal item already. If somebody starts growing and smoking dope the day after Prop 19 passes, the net impact to commerce is zero. He didn't buy it last week and he isn't buying it this week."

The net impact to existing commerce would be zero. It certainly would impact future. Of course it would have to be legal in more than one state to qualify as interstate commerce.

42 posted on 10/17/2010 11:28:56 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Yes, but that was a FEDERAL allowed amount; and the FEDERAL allowed amount of MJ is ZERO, so it could still be twisted to apply. EVERYTHING (Just ask Nancey!) is “Interstate Commerce”. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!


43 posted on 10/17/2010 11:40:30 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: tickmeister

I don’t think that pot is any better or worse than any other intoxicant, but the real problem is how do you determine if someone is “under the influence” in an accident (traffic, industrial, etc.). I don’t think that there is any standard, and THC can stay in a system for a long time.

I would not care to travel in California should this pass.

On the other hand, how much trouble can you get into going four miles an hour?


44 posted on 10/17/2010 11:49:47 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: bornred
Inside every so-called "liberal" is a tyrant waiting to come out.

It gets better: The "liberal" in this case is a RINO.

45 posted on 10/18/2010 12:36:53 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I have absolutely no doubt Holder would attempt that same argument. LOL!!!


46 posted on 10/18/2010 12:41:25 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: bornred

One Sheriff—In The Know—intends to use the “Bully Pulpit” before the vote takes place.


47 posted on 10/18/2010 12:49:48 AM PDT by Does so
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To: bornred

Yeah, the law is the law and this Sheriff can’t pick and chose which laws to enforce.

Baca has ignored for years federal immigration law and allowed illegal immigrant criminals to escape punishment and commit more crimes.

The real reason he would continue to enforce federal MJ laws is MONEY.

His department would lose federal grants and training which supplement his budget.


48 posted on 10/18/2010 4:58:13 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: streetpreacher
How can a county sheriff say he is going to enforce federal laws while violating state laws?

A couple of ideas:

1) He thinks it will get him noticed and serve as a path to higher political office.
2) He loves the asset forfeiture goodies and wants them to keep on coming.

49 posted on 10/18/2010 5:18:32 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: bornred
I'm no fan of marijuana, but just what is the difference between that and alcohol anyway (other than the social stigma)?

Both are used to get high, and both can be harmful in excessive quantities. We sell every kind of liquor from wine coolers to everclear and in whatever quantities wanted to anyone over 21, yet an ounce of pot will get you thrown in jail.

I've been around a LOT of people drunk and a lot of people high, and from everything I've witnessed the people high on pot are a lot less aggressive and dangerous than those drunk from liquor.

50 posted on 10/18/2010 5:29:53 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Today, Congress. Tomorrow, the White House!)
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To: politicalmerc
He has NO AUTHORITY save State law and if he tries to enforce a State Law that is no longer State Law then he needs to be put away.

Actually, no. A sheriff has a special place in law as the locally ELECTED LEO. There are instances in which county sheriffs have thrown out Federal bureaucrats and the cases have stood. You'd best be damned thankful for that too.

What's funny about this situation is that Baca is citing one Federal law on drugs, while he systematically ignores another on illegal immigration.

51 posted on 10/18/2010 6:00:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: umgud

mj will be legal.Not FDA approved yes he can.


52 posted on 10/18/2010 6:08:23 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: bornred

Baca will send the illegal aliens to ICE and send the dopers to the DEA.

LAT:

“The L.A. Sheriff’s Department wants to extend a joint project with federal immigration officials to identify illegal immigrants in the L.A. jail system.”

“The Board of Supervisors on Tuesday will consider a request by L.A. Sheriff Lee Baca for his department to continue working with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on the effort to track illegal-immigrant criminals.”

“L.A. County was a pioneer in working with the federal officials on screening inmates, and more than 11,000 have been referred to ICE for possible deportation, according to a Times report.”


53 posted on 10/18/2010 8:10:42 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Carry_Okie
What's funny about this situation is that Baca is citing one Federal law on drugs, while he systematically ignores another on illegal immigration.

Wrong.

Program to identify illegal immigrants in jails should be expanded, L.A. sheriff says, October 12, 2010

54 posted on 10/18/2010 8:12:55 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: WaterBoard

He can pick and choose which laws to enforce, but LEOs shouldn’t be arresting or harassing people for something that was made explicitly legal by statute. He is a state LEO and his primary obligation is to enforce state law.

Sheriff Baca doesn’t get to make his own laws, whether they be for drugs, guns, highway speed limits, or anything else he doesn’t like.

It does seem like an awful lot of this boils down to money and control.


55 posted on 10/18/2010 8:56:59 AM PDT by bornred
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To: dragnet2

Well my point was they are suppose to enforce all laws, clearly sometimes they don’t as you point out. But that only screws up the system more. If you guys want to smoke it up, fine CHANGE THE LAW or get a court to say the feds have overstepped. Until that happens I hope you get a small fine and can never get a good job for the rest of your life because of a drug convictions. I’m kidding but still, change the law.


56 posted on 10/18/2010 9:02:51 AM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Paddy Irish
Don’t state police enforce Federal laws? If a state Trooper sees someone violating a federal terrorism law, does he have to let that person go.

Is this a joke?

What about federal laws regarding illegal aliens? The county alone probably has 2 million illegals running through the streets...Upwards of 30 million nationally.

Ya got millions running around that have violated federal law and entered the country illegally during wartime, but you expect the cops take time to enforce federal law regarding pot?

Well my point was they are suppose to enforce all laws, clearly sometimes they don’t as you point out.

Sometimes they don't? Ya think?

Did you ever ask yourself why?

Boy, you're really perceptive

We've got upwards of 30 million in this country illegally, millions more entering illegally every year, during war time, while your federal government forces Americans to pay for this insanity to the tune of hundreds of billions, while they choke off our heath care, hospitals, schools, jails, and social services, undermining and compromising our entire electoral process, etc.

And you make the drunken comment, "Sometimes the Feds don't enforce certain laws"

Ya think this is all an accident?

lol...

57 posted on 10/18/2010 9:24:12 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Are you even paying attention? JUST BECAUSE THEY DON’T ENFORCE ALL THE LAWS, THEY SHOULD! Can I make myself any clearer for you? I think they should enforce all laws, including federal drug laws. If you want to smoke up, change the law. Stop trying to go back door with medical marijuana or state laws. By your @#$!’ed up logic we should stop enforcing all laws because we don’t enforce immigration all the time. You are stupid, put down the pipe.


58 posted on 10/18/2010 9:50:46 AM PDT by Paddy Irish
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To: Redcloak

Bacca is a Dem.


59 posted on 10/18/2010 10:01:08 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Mojave
Wrong.

Just because Baca is trying to get ICE to cover some of his jail costs does not mean he is enforcing Federal Immigration law, particularly because Los Angeles is a "sanctuary city."

60 posted on 10/18/2010 10:09:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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