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NATO official: Bin Laden, deputy hiding in northwest Pakistan
CNN.com ^ | October 18, 2010 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 10/18/2010 3:14:42 AM PDT by John W

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri are believed to be hiding close to each other in houses in northwest Pakistan, but are not together, a senior NATO official said.

"Nobody in al Qaeda is living in a cave," said the official, who declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the intelligence matters involved.

Rather, al Qaeda's top leadership is believed to be living in relative comfort, protected by locals and some members of the Pakistani intelligence services, the official said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alzawahiri; globaljihad; immigration; islam; pakistan; teaparty; ubl; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/18/2010 3:14:46 AM PDT by John W
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To: John W

I believe Bin laden has been dead for years. How old would he be now if still alive, and what of the rumors of dialysis . No one can hde for this long.


2 posted on 10/18/2010 3:25:03 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Don’t disagree, but, he would only be 53.


3 posted on 10/18/2010 3:28:28 AM PDT by John W (Chuck Todd Is An Ass)
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To: John W

October Surprise Alert


4 posted on 10/18/2010 3:35:40 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: beef

“October Surprise Alert”

That wouldn’t surprise me in the least. That said, for an electorate outraged over inaction on jobs etc., I don’t picture that the capture or death of either of these jokers this late in the game would magically turn around electoral prospects for the Dems. At this juncture, Obama is so lacking in credibility that if anything there might be a backlash against what is perceived to be an obvious political ploy.

What Obama essentially has proven over the past 2 years is that even a massive infusion of new troops into Afghanistan hasn’t sufficed to run down the man that candidate Obama implied could be captured with ease if only we hadn’t diverted resources to Iraq.

In reality, we’d quickly defeated the Taliban early on and Bush never foolishly aspired to building a democracy in one of the most backward countries on the planet. It’s not likely anyone would have thought adding 30,000 troops back in 2003 purely for the purposes of capturing bin Laden would have been a sensible use of military resources.


5 posted on 10/18/2010 3:52:51 AM PDT by DrC
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To: beef

We pay the Pakis billions in “aid” while they and Iran fund weaponry and C4 for Talibans who use it to kill our troops. The Muslim killing merry go round never stops. It is long past time to kill them all.


6 posted on 10/18/2010 3:53:30 AM PDT by doosee
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To: John W
He is dead Jim.

They perpetuate this myth for power and money reasons... both sides are doing it.

I no longer believe any statement from anyone connected to our government. Reagan said “Trust but verify”. They lost the “trust” part. Now I just verify. Even on the rare occasion that they actually tell the truth... it is usually wrapped in a lie.

LLS

7 posted on 10/18/2010 4:01:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: John W

Right. And Elvis lives next door.


8 posted on 10/18/2010 4:05:36 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: John W

Thanks: The last time I saw a picture of him he looked 75 and was frail. Again: I wonder how a man who looked that bad could make it living in isolation and hiding.

I still say he is dead.


9 posted on 10/18/2010 4:07:07 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: John W

Living on stimulus funds sent to Pockeeesttahhhnnn


10 posted on 10/18/2010 4:08:39 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: doosee

Islam needs to be wiped from the face of the earth, starting with America.


11 posted on 10/18/2010 4:12:06 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree

Islam needs to be wiped from the face of the earth, starting with America.

Agree, communism was outlawed in the US in the early 50s and with ISLAM as a political philosophy it should also be outlawed. Shut down the mosques and deport the followers of this human plague.


12 posted on 10/18/2010 4:16:59 AM PDT by doosee
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To: John W
The ability for terrorists to take state-sponsored shelter in neighboring countries is why Irregular Warfare (IW) operations are so difficult and take so long to come to an end. The last major IW conflict was our involvement in Vietnam which was the second campaign in SEA. Taking both the French and American involvement in Vietnam as a base line IW campaigns can easily last thirty years (1945-1975). That is one of the reasons they are also called “Long Wars”.
13 posted on 10/18/2010 4:28:33 AM PDT by Nip (A COIN carrier since 1975.)
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To: Melchior
Right. And Elvis lives next door.

Yep.


14 posted on 10/18/2010 4:29:34 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: DrC
Bush never foolishly aspired to building a democracy in one of the most backward countries on the planet

Which planet are you referring to?

Do you mean the Bush who changed the name Operation Infinite Justice because it was insulting to Allah? THAT Bush?

George W. Bush's failures in playing an amazingly strong hand are too numerous to even begin to discuss.

But his idiotic belief that Islam was just one diorama on the "It's a Small World After All" ride through the Disney World of his mind was surely the worst, followed closely by his fantasy that all that savages and barbarians really want are free elections and women's equality.

15 posted on 10/18/2010 4:35:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: doosee

Too bad it’s still not outlawed today....


16 posted on 10/18/2010 4:36:52 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: John W

yah, I really believe this


17 posted on 10/18/2010 5:01:31 AM PDT by Talf
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To: John W

It certainly would explain how he could have survived with kidney disease all these yrs.


18 posted on 10/18/2010 5:02:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: DrC

Spot on. You using missiles or guns because you are so damn on it!


19 posted on 10/18/2010 7:35:17 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: thethirddegree
Islam needs to be wiped from the face of the earth, starting with America.

I disagree. Start with nuking Mecca, Medina and Qum. That would finish the "religion" as it would remove the possibility of the Muzzies to perform the Haj, one of the central tenants of Islam. Then allow the rest of these idjeets to CONVERT or DIE, just as they did themselves to the Hindus. Payback's a b*tch!

20 posted on 10/18/2010 7:38:51 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("There is no way to refudiate her strategery, so they misunderestimate her.")
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To: John W

This is news? I might be wrong, but hasn’t he been hiding there for awhile?


21 posted on 10/18/2010 9:49:17 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (You better HOPE you end up with a little CHANGE in your pocket after he's finished.)
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To: John W
this is just "filler"; does anyone believe anyone anymore?!

also, does the 'gubmint' care 'bout binnie anymore?!

22 posted on 10/18/2010 9:51:47 AM PDT by 1234 ("1984")
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To: Venturer
There was a tape in January this year.

Osama Bin Laden's New Terror Tape

Also:

Bin Laden issues new threat in tape (3/25/2010)

He is still around.

23 posted on 10/18/2010 9:58:04 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Venturer
No one can hide for this long? You can't be serious? Nor do you understand the logistics and sheer scope of the region in which these animals ek out their lives... Ever heard of Zawahiri, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar & Jalaluddin Haqqani? We have been hunting each of these men for as long as UBL...

Each will be put in the ground one of these nights....but time was always on their side in the short term range once they decided to seek shelter in the Pak border regions...The CIA is to risk adverse in terms of hitting targets and gathering Intel....If the Mil side was put in charge of finding their own targets we could tighten our OODA loop enough to increase the odds of nailing these SOBs.

24 posted on 10/18/2010 10:01:54 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: John W
"Ooga, booga, B O O !

Boogie men always dance on que ( as long as the get their check from the CIA).

25 posted on 10/18/2010 10:05:33 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: DrC

The population is so cynical they would see through a surprise pretty quckly.


26 posted on 10/18/2010 10:09:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: John W

“protected by locals and some members of the Pakistani intelligence services”

I have no doubt that elements of the Pakistani intelligence service know exactly where they are at and are providing protection.


27 posted on 10/18/2010 10:12:42 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nuconvert
The kidney disease myth, is just that. It was debunked by several differing Gov't OGAs back in the late 90s....it started because of equipment purchases that could be duel use....

Knowing someone remains alive and knowing someones given location are two separate realities, both completely conceivably true.

There are numerous ways to conclude (even verify to a set date) that someone is/was alive, without being able to pinpoint their location in any actionable sense.

When one understands the region of the world where he is located along with the logistic complexities regarding both Intel and DA Ops, one understands how he has remained alive.

28 posted on 10/18/2010 10:13:20 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: SevenMinusOne

“it started because of equipment purchases that could be duel use....”

I thought it was started based on his sickly appearance at the time


29 posted on 10/18/2010 10:17:16 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: John W
He's around. He's been sexting back and forth with the Code Pinkos. Nasty stuff, really.
30 posted on 10/18/2010 10:17:27 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: John W

He’s dead, Jim.


31 posted on 10/18/2010 10:21:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: M Kehoe

Here we go!


32 posted on 10/18/2010 10:21:57 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: nuconvert
It has been speculated that he likely has Marfan syndrome, which is more common among tall/thin Middle Easterner’s....
33 posted on 10/18/2010 10:26:19 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: All
Just as every other big bad guy has been killed (and confirmed) from Saddam, to Zarqawi, to the Mehsud clan leaders and a list of other HVTs we have sought out and killed in Stan...through the deck of cards in Iraq.....Each of these men when killed, is confirmed and comes out in rather short notice. None look different, none have elaborate disguises....They are merely scum that have finally met justice. It will be no different for UBL or Zawahiri when that night comes...
34 posted on 10/18/2010 10:32:43 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Venturer

At one time there was no shortage of bin laden videos but no new ones for a long, long time. Why not?


35 posted on 10/18/2010 10:46:59 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Venturer

Pakistan is not our friend and it is no stretch of the imagination to think they are harboring our enemies there. Islamic birds of a feather are flocking together and playing us for fools.


36 posted on 10/18/2010 11:01:08 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SevenMinusOne

I know what Marfan’s is. That would not explain his looking very ill back yrs ago.


37 posted on 10/18/2010 11:27:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: John W
If he is only 53, then he needs to cancel his Grecian formula order,..because that shizzel is not workin'...i'm just saying.
38 posted on 10/18/2010 11:31:11 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: swarthyguy; AdmSmith; Cap Huff

Splitting time between Chitral and Kurram Agency..


39 posted on 10/18/2010 11:54:45 AM PDT by Dog
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To: San Jacinto
At one time there was no shortage of bin laden videos but no new ones for a long, long time. Why not?

First, this really isn't accurate. There has never been a tremendous amount of video of UBL. Secondly, and more importantly....when there was video of him, it was prior to us putting boots on the ground and hunting his sorry as$! UBL clearly became much more interested in his well being, staying alive than with promoting his new found status.

Also note, the video of him that came out shortly after 9-11 was not put out by him or AQ propaganda wing....but it was video that was recovered during a US SOF Op and then released to the public. Could there be other such videos recovered during Ops since (be it 2005, 2007, 2008) and simply not released to the public?

40 posted on 10/18/2010 11:55:10 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: 1234

He matters. Don’t kid yourself.


41 posted on 10/18/2010 11:58:13 AM PDT by Dog
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To: San Jacinto

Operational security...its easier to smuggle out a audio tape.


42 posted on 10/18/2010 12:00:18 PM PDT by Dog
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To: TexasRepublic

Yes: Thay have been playiong us like fools for years.

Pakistan is an outlaw territory in my opinion , Thy pose as a sovereign state ,but are not really of one Government, almost as tribal as Afghanistan and the only ay their Government gets along is to play along. It could collapse at any moment, and the frightening thing is they are a Nuclear power.


43 posted on 10/18/2010 2:03:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: doosee; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

/bingo


44 posted on 10/18/2010 2:26:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Venturer
Yes. Pakistan has become (and only more so with the incredible naive and foolish handling by the Obama Admin) has gone from a quasi-ally to a strategic liability.
45 posted on 10/18/2010 2:47:19 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: John W; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Rather, al Qaeda's top leadership is believed to be living in relative comfort, protected by locals and some members of the Pakistani intelligence services, the official said."
I made such statements a number of years ago. It's going to be tough to drop a JDAM on the goon. He probably is being waited on in some top notch hotel.
46 posted on 10/18/2010 3:01:00 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: b4its2late
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

There are only two reasons I come to these threads anymore. One is to see the Elvis bin Laden posting awards, and two is to post...

12/12/01.

5.56mm

47 posted on 10/18/2010 7:59:57 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: John W

I say first we stop the $4,000,000,000 in aid the United States gives to that sewer. Second, we drop a nuke sucking all the air out of Afghanistan and Pakistan turning all of it into a huge parking lot. Third and last, we all go out into to the streets and celebrate the death of Islam just like they did when the Towers were attacked. What difference is a few fewer million camel jockeys on earth. Just my opinion of course.


48 posted on 10/19/2010 1:30:41 AM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: DrC

Good analysis.


49 posted on 10/19/2010 1:33:49 AM PDT by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator [who served in Vietnam and Rhode Island] said so.)
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To: Nitehawk0325

Sounds like a plan my good man!


50 posted on 10/19/2010 1:34:08 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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