Skip to comments.Bosnia: Muslims shelled own people, witness tells court
Posted on 10/18/2010 11:56:23 AM PDT by Nachum
The Hague - A witness for the prosecution testifying in the trial of wartime Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, told the United Nations war crimes tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), that the Bosnian Muslim army at least on one occasion fired at their own people to blame the Serbs during 1992-1995 war. Canadian general David Fraser, who served with the UN peacekeepers in Bosnia, told the tribunal that Bosnian Serbs shelled the capital Sarajevo excessively and unselectively during 44-month siege, But at least in one case, it was determined that a mortar fired from Muslim positions hit the centre
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I guarantee it was in more than one case.
muslims killing muslims? say it isn’t true....
I understand that Angelina Jolie is making a movie where the Serbs were committing mass rape of Muslim women when in truth it was the opposite. There have been protests from a group of women claiming 100,000 members.
The main point of the movie is also going to have a victim fall in love with the rapist. gag.
It certainly wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
The world, including Americans are big time brain-washed when it comes to who the enemy really is in the Balkans, and guess what it ain’t the Serbs.
You will like this one ping.
It doesn’t take much to figure out who the bad guys are. Look at all the hot spots in the world and in 99.9% of the cases, one side is muslim and sometimes, both sides are.
NATO bombed the wrong side.
So, should NATO have bombed Slovenia and Croatia when the Serbs attacked them as well? Under Slobodan Milosevic, Radovan Karadjic and Gen. Ratko Mladic, the Serbs were a murderous bunch. I'm not giving them any quarter in that conflict.
Unfortunately, this is historically quite common.
You might also note the remarkably frequent appearance of the theme in "romance novels" sold almost exclusively to women.
Well, that’s just messed up
I agree. Quite obviously a large number of women find the notion exciting, at least in their fantasy life.
They might not get such a charge out of it in real life.
I’m talking about the Bosnian Muslims! No one’s going to fall for that Saul Alinsky stuff about changing the subject around here.
NATO shouldn’t have been fluffing the Mussie’s territorial ambitions.
It’s a mistake that will cost us for years to come.
When did Serbia attack Slovenia and Croatia?
Why is this a surprise?
Slovenia was attacked by the united Yugoslav Army (NOT “the Serbs”) to prevent its secession. The “war” was over in less than a week, with very few casualties.
The Nazi Croats seceded unilaterally, and disenfranchised the Krajina Serbs who had lived there for over 300 years, and were caught in “Croatian” territory because of borders set by the commies. Serb Krajina seceded, hence the war, which Radovan and Ratko had NOTHING to do with! Under the New World Order, Nazi Croats, Nazi “Bosnian” muslims, and Nazi Kosovo Albanians have the right to secede, but Orthodox Christian Serbs don’t. You call that fair?
Yes the Croats, muslims, and Albanians (who are also muslim) are Nazi. They supported the Nazis in WWII, they’ve NEVER been de-Nazified, and they act like Nazis today. They’re all proud of and celebrate their Nazi connections!
Meanwhile, the Serbian Christians were our allies in WWII, and saved American airmen who were downed during their raids on the Ploiesti oil fields. All the Serbs wanted was to save their territories, and to protect their people who were menaced by implacable, murderous enemies.
And what do our American mis-leaders do? Side with Nazis and muslims!!!! And our media lies and lies about the whole situation, so that you parrot their garbage that “the Serbs are a murderous bunch”.
He’ll be doing that “they started World War One shtick next!”
I have no apriori stake in anything involving the balkans. I am not of slavic origin, a member of the orthodox church etc. and in fact I do not really even know any Serbs. I speak Russian reasonably well and I have a reasonably good idea of how Russians think, and there was a big question mark in 95, i.e. assuming everything you read in the media is correct and the Serbs really are the assholes of the world, is it worth damaging relations with Russia over? To me the answer was not really, but I could not have framed an argument or a case very easily.
When the whole process started up again in 99, I decided to make it my business to go out on the internet and learn as much as possible on the subject. Here's what all I learned:
As nearly as I can tell, the Serbs are the closest thing there are to normal decent people in the Balkans. There were 25 or 26 ethnic groups in the yugoslav federation, only three or four of which had any sort of a problem dealing with Serbs, and those are the three or four which sided with Adolf Hitler in WW-II.
In fact the Serbs declared war on Hitler and held him for many months and sent him into Russia in the dead of winter instead of on schedule, but for which we might all be working in a Nazi coal mine in West Virginia. In fact, the Serbs rescued something like 500 allied airmen who were downed coming back from the raids over Ploesti and other balkan targets. Any allied airman who ever parachuted into Croatia, Albania, or any of the other parts of the Balkans was tortured and killed. The Serbs paid a huge price for this, two or three million being killed in death camps in the surrounding states, which sided with Hitler.
Kosovo in fact had been majority Serb prior to the war and was the ancient heartland of Serbia, with 1500 or so orthodox shrines and monasteries. Many Serbs living in Kosovo were killed by the nazis, and Tito, a Croat, moved many more out of Kosovo, and then you started getting large numbers of Albanians moving into Kosovo to escape one of the worst regimes in the commie world in Albania. Most Albanian Kosovars are in fact illegal immigrants.
Bad went to worse after the war until Milosevic ended up having to rescind the autonomy of the province in 89, and that was the genesis of the modern problems of Kosovo. Milosevic had no options; every other ethnic group in Kosovo was being brutalized by the Albanians. According to every account I was able to read, in the winter of 99, there was in actual fact nothing resembling ethnic cleansing or genocide going on in Kosovo; only a bunch of innocent people trying to protect themselves from a low-grade guerilla war being waged by narco-terrorists with money and arms being supplied by other nations.
In fact the whole problem in Kosovo was the Albanians, who appear to be universally hated in the region. These people average ten or twelve children per family, and attempt to ensconce themselves into little corners of other peoples' countries and breed for fifteen or twenty years until they constitute a majority population in those corners, and then break those corners off into their "greater Albania". Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs and othere refer to this as "rabbit breeding your way to power". That's aside from rape, murder, poisoning wells etc. etc., which they also excel at.
From everything I was able to read, Albanians are responsible for as much as 90% of European heroin trafficking, most of the prostitution south of Germany, most of the traffic in stolen vehicles moving from Europe to Russia and the Levant, and on and on and on. Therefore it came as no surprise to to learn that the real reasons such as they were for our involvement had basically nothing to do with Albanian Kosovars, who no rational person could give a rat's ass over. There were six or eight real reasons for wanting to get into Kosovo and together they did not add up to a believable case and the pentagon advised Slick not to do it.
Nonetheless the thing which was on the front page of virtually all American journals at the time was the Juanita Broaddrick story, i.e. a credible allegation of a brutal rape by a sitting president of the United States, and Slick clearly needed something to get that story off the papers. A week after Kosovo started, there were pictures of Slick and his toadies doing high-fives and talking about hitting a home run. A home run, in fact, which cost the lives of several thousand little slavic orthodox children.
As near as I could tell, NATO commanders realized that this thing was another episode of dog-wagging for which they could not ask pilots to risk their lives over and ordered bombing attacks practically from orbit, and then when they realized they could not harm the Serbian military from 25,000', embarked upon a wholesale campaign of what most people would call war crimes, targetting the Serbian people and their infrastructure hundreds of kilometers from any legitimate military target.
Aside from every other problem with Kosovo, the precedent which it represents cannot possibly be allowed to stand. If ethnicity is everything and ownership and sovereignty don't mean anything anymore, then what are we going to say when the UN comes here demanding that we hand Texas, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, and California over to Mexico on the same perverted basis?
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