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O'Donnell vs. Coons (Facebook & Fundraising vs. Public Polls & the NRSC)
10/18/2010 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 10/18/2010 3:43:12 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads

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To: Brices Crossroads
Keep telling yourself that. In fact, I predieted a long time before it happened, based on her Facebook trends alone that she swousl defeat Castle. You are telling me Facebook predicted she could defeat Castle who had been elected statewide about a dozen times (and beat him pretty convincingly 53-47) and yet

I'm telling you Coons is a dour, completely forgettable, 2nd tier, awful candidate - and because it's Delaware he is still going to win relatively easily. Trying to base the outcome of an election on Facebook popularity is a waste of time.

There is no point in trying to change your mind. You see a lot of enthusiasm and think that is going to translate into a COD win. I think nationwide movement conservative excitement just isn't enough to change the fact that Delaware has been voting reliably liberal the last several cycles and will probably do so again this year. I hope I am wrong, we will see.

21 posted on 10/18/2010 4:53:19 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

“I’m telling you Coons is a dour, completely forgettable, 2nd tier, awful candidate - and because it’s Delaware he is still going to win relatively easily....I think nationwide movement conservative excitement just isn’t enough to change the fact that Delaware has been voting reliably liberal the last several cycles and will probably do so again this year. I hope I am wrong, we will see.”

Then for all of the reasons you just stated, I guess WV is not competitive either? /sarc


22 posted on 10/18/2010 5:12:12 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Brices Crossroads
I am predicting a narrow O'Donnell win. Lawyers will wage an epic battle here. The ultimate outcome may be in the hands of Delaware's Attorney General, Beau Biden. She needs to win big. Everyone please help! You can make calls for her here:


23 posted on 10/18/2010 5:21:32 PM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Excellent, Brices. I have put BC’s analyses in the hands of some of the top reporters and editors in the country. That’s how highly I regard his talents. And I have been in this political game for a VERY long time.


24 posted on 10/18/2010 5:27:09 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: FreeInWV
Then for all of the reasons you just stated, I guess WV is not competitive either? /sarc

I am sure you know that is a completely silly comparison.

West Virginia delivered 56% of its vote to John McCain for President in 2008. Delaware on the other hand gave 61.9% of its votes to Barrack Obama for President in 2008. WVA is a state trending more and more Republican, Delaware is a far left state and getting worse by the election cycle.

25 posted on 10/18/2010 5:32:06 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

When was the last time WV elected a GOP senator? I don’t recall any in my lifetime. Do you?

What is the percentage of Dems to Republicans in WV? (Hint: They outnumber republicans 2 to 1). That hasn’t changed.

The GOP candidate Raese could not be lamer. He’s not likeable. He doesn’t relate well to the people of the state. He has a proven track record of losing. He is a millionaire that lives out of state. His company is not well liked as it has made millions off of the government in questionable highway contracts. He is the guy that the party consistently puts up when nobody else runs. Any other year, he would not stand a chance.

And no, 56% did not vote for John McCain in 08. I never met anyone that had a use for him. Not one person. That 56% voted for Sarah.

So I really don’t see how supporting COD is such a silly idea. Sounds to me like they are scared that people are more interested in supporting tea party folks than their hand picked establishment candidates.


26 posted on 10/18/2010 6:12:41 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Brices Crossroads

“FUNDRAISING:

As has been reported Christine O’Donnell is has raised twice as much money ($3.8 million) as Coons in the last month. Again, as with Facebook, her massive 2-1 fundraising advantage is indicative of interest and intensity, which translates into voters on election day.”

No.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/15/odonnell-outpaces-coons-in-fund-raising/
“raising more than twice as much money in the three months ending Sept. 30”

During most of that quarter she was in a primary, he was waiting to be sacrificed to Castle. Hard to draw any more than that out of the numbers.
(Not to call the WSJ mistaken- but Coons’ Sept numbers are not on the FEC site.)

Interestingly Coons is drawing quite a bit of establishment Dem independent expenditures (which are reported) since then- a million from the DSCC and Actblue. “During the last two weeks alone, the DSCC has spent $351,781 producing and running TV ads opposing O’Donnell. “http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/10/your-daily-dose-of-news-31.html
And lots of 10k donations from unions and other Party regulars, the recent Obama-Biden fundraiser...

I think it inescapapable to conclude Christine’s candidacy is drawing Dem funds from other races.


27 posted on 10/18/2010 6:24:12 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: FreeInWV
And no, 56% did not vote for John McCain in 08. I never met anyone that had a use for him. Not one person. That 56% voted for Sarah.

WVA also voted for the "compassionate conservative" Bush in 2000 and 2004 - and then McCain in 2008. It's clearly a state trending Republican. It's entrenched Dem incumbent Senators have hung on, but now that one of those Senate seats is open the liberals are having a hard time holding it because the state is moving to the right.

Delaware on the other hand has voted for Bill Clinton in 92, Bill Clinton in 96, Algore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, Obama in 2008. This is a deep blue state and shows no evidence that is it moving in any other direction but left. Castle is the kind of Republican that can win a statewide general election in Delaware, COD almost certainly can't.

Trying to compare WVA and Delaware is silly, and you should know better.

So I really don’t see how supporting COD is such a silly idea. Sounds to me like they are scared that people are more interested in supporting tea party folks than their hand picked establishment candidates.

I'd expect all Republicans to support her as she is the nominee, but don't get your hopes up. Your welcome to argue otherwise, but come election day I think you'll find she loses by around 10 points. It's just not going to be that close and no matter how much you wish it were otherwise - Delaware is a liberal voting state.

But who knows, I would love to be wrong. Perhaps a real tsunami election will end up rolling from Delaware to California - one that makes winners out of written-off underdogs like COD. It could happen that way. I don't see it in the polling data yet, but who knows.

28 posted on 10/18/2010 6:34:49 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: mrsmith

“As has been reported Christine O’Donnell is has raised twice as much money ($3.8 million) as Coons in the last month. Again, as with Facebook, her massive 2-1 fundraising advantage is indicative of interest and intensity, which translates into voters on election day.”

No.”

Thank you . It is actually closer to 3-1 (3.9 million to 1.5 million) over three months. Don’t quite get your point. She is clobbering him and you are making excuses for why his fund raising is pathetic.

“Interestingly Coons is drawing quite a bit of establishment Dem independent expenditures (which are reported) since then- a million from the DSCC”

Ask yourself why. And why has Biden made three trips there? Because it is slipping away. That’s why. They couldn’t stop Mass from going GOP and they sure won’t stop Delaware.


29 posted on 10/18/2010 6:47:30 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Longbow1969

“Delaware on the other hand gave 61.9% of its votes to Barrack Obama for President in 2008.”

Come on. Biden was on the ticket as a favorite son. Reagan won DE three times. How do you explain that if it is so liberal? Why has it changed from being so conservative.

DE is more conservative than liberal by about 2-1 according to Gallup.


30 posted on 10/18/2010 6:51:41 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Longbow1969

Your reasoning comes from inside the beltway. And that is why the GOP will never understand WV. They never come here, talk to the people, build support, support the candidates. Primaries are usually unopposed. They always assume that we will always vote dem. Every now and then, some stategist says “Omigosh, we might be able to win a seat in WV!” Then they hold us up and say WV is a battleground and trending Republican. Kinda stupid after you’ve seen it the first couple times.

I remember last time Senator Byrd ran for reelection. Hugh Hewitt read the GOP talking points to all of his listeners and declared that Byrd’s seat was guaranteed to go Republican. That Byrd was so mired in scandal that he was guaranteed to lose. The stupid thing was, no GOP candidate had even declared to run against him yet. It was nothing but talk. Not even good propaganda. Byrd did not even campaign (he spent NO money) and still won with over 70% of the vote.

WV might vote Raese in, but it will have nothing to do with supporting the establishment GOP. They are not well liked here. We are just so sick of Obama that we do not wanna give his camp any support whatsoever. Perhaps the people in Delaware feel the same way.

You never did name the last GOP senator from WV.


31 posted on 10/18/2010 7:40:55 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Diogenesis
Unlike most, but not unlike everyone else. Winners of WV, IL and 2nd NY race (DiGuardia vs. Gillibrand) also will be seated immediately, or at least as soon as their rat state machinery can get around to it (recall the delays seating Brown.)
32 posted on 10/18/2010 7:43:28 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Tear down that BARACK-ade!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

When McCain releases his flying monkey daughter to bash C’O in the final days and on the same day that he’s out campaigning for Carly makes me think he’s worried she might win - otherwise why make that a priority near the end of the cycle?


33 posted on 10/18/2010 9:27:21 PM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAKI)
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To: Longbow1969; Brices Crossroads
But who knows, I would love to be wrong. Perhaps a real tsunami election ...

In politics, business, projects, and any other sort of group endeavor, attitude determines your reality a large percentage of the time. In tight competitions, attitude makes all the difference in the world.

Attitude is contagious, whether optimistic or pessimistic.

Optimism creates energy and momentum, and attracts resources to your team effort.

Pessimism creates depression and resistance, and drives resources away from your team effort. It is poison.

O'Donnell will win, even in Delaware.

34 posted on 10/18/2010 10:55:45 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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