Skip to comments.Idaho won't manage wolves under ESA
Posted on 10/18/2010 4:14:13 PM PDT by epithermal
BOISE - After talks with the federal government collapsed, Gov. C.L. (Butch) Otter ordered Idaho wildlife managers today to relinquish their duty to arrest poachers or to even investigate when wolves are killed illegally.
Otter rejected the wolf management Idaho has conducted for years as the federal government's "designated agent" after a federal judge in Montana returned wolves to Endangered Species Act protections earlier this year.
This means Idaho Department of Fish and Game managers will no longer perform statewide monitoring for wolves, conduct investigations into illegal killings, provide law enforcement when wolves are poached or participate in a program that responds to livestock depredations.
Thats one tough Otter...
Otter ought to have a meeting with all the County Sheriffs in his State and inform them that they have the authority to order the Feds out of their Counties.
This is good, is it not?
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If you prefer States Rights, yes...
You decide. Some more info on this thread:
There’s one governor that will have no problem winning re-election.
I have always desired a wolfskin rug, or maybe a ‘doily’ for the back of the Lazyboy...
Pray for a nonresident lottery on tags...
It sounds like a States’ Rights issue to me. What are the feds doing in there protecting wolves > citizens?? Just taking the pulse of the Idahoans.
There You have IT!
I did decide already, actually. Just interested in feedback from local Northwesterners.
>>Otter ought to have a meeting with all the County Sheriffs in his State and inform them that they have the authority to order the Feds out of their Counties.<<
The County Sheriffs should already know this if they have an ounce of brains.
Now you’ll be able to take heart shots instead of gut shooting them and letting them run off and die in the forest. Skin them out on the spot, salt it and roll it up for the tanner.
Apologies for neglecting this list.
Don’t ya’ll have wolves in Wis.?
We can even use our guns “Made in Idaho” to shot them with!
This is very dangerous. If Otter doesn’t take care of wolves, the population of elk could grow unchecked. If elk population is unchecked, there will be too much elk dung. If there is too much elk dung, this elk dung will cause be man-made global warming. If there is man-made global warming sea levels will rise. If sea levels rise, the polar bears will drown and New York City will go underwater. The only way to prevent this scenario is to raise taxes and use the money to buy carbon credits from Al Gore.
No, no, you got that wrong. We need an explosion in the tasty elk population. We eat them here in Idaho. Harvesting more elk will reduce the pressure to raise those inferior tasting bovine. Less bovine farts, less imagined global warming. Besides, New York City will make good fish habitat.
At last! A truly American act by an American elected official. Christmas has arrived early for the Constitution oriented. First Gov. Brewer and now Gov. Otter.
Who is John Galt?
Sitting here in Idaho County, the middle of what used to be THE place to go to hunt elk, I can tell you Otter has stirred the pot and created the splash that was necessary. We need to quit getting run over by these massive unwanted environmental policies that are being rammed down our throats all over the nation.
This is NOT JUST ABOUT WOLVES!
This is an across the board attack on everyone. The attack comes from judges, from congress-critters, from environmental groups, but most of all from unelected bureaucrats with a mandate only to spend money and expand their job descriptions.
Go Idaho! We need to lead the way. Toss the Feds out on their asses and run our own state the way it is s’posed to be run.
The wolves are so bad that you cannot walk in the woods without worrying about your kids every second.
The wolves are so bad that the elk and moose are gone. The hunting business, which is a significant portion of Idaho County business income, is gone.
Hard to force a law enforcement officer to ignore the law. So we’ll see how well Otter’s plan holds up. I cannot see an Idaho jury convicting anyone of shooting an ‘endangered animal’. All the shooter has to say is the wolf threatened them and they are off the hook. That word should get around quickly. As long as you have a good defense reason for the shot, even if it was your pet that was threatened, ID Fish and Game will take a pass on making charges.
Shoot, Shovel, and Shutup!
Obviously elk dung production will have to be strictly controlled.
A .30-06 should be adequate for the purpose, although YMMV.
I still have my wolf tag from earlier this year.
Oh, hell yeah. If you believe the feds are out of control over the last century and a half, anytime a state wins back some power and the feds are weakened, it's good, even if the feds were 100% in the right on the merits of the issue (and in this case they most assuredly are NOT). If you don't believe the feral goobermint is running amok, you are probably incapable of typing, breathing, or chewing, and we're having this conversation with a virus in your computer.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Should be interesting if the libs in Kali pass medi marijuana, setting themselves up for a fight with the authoritarian liberal feds.
So far your scenario is all pony and no horseshit. I'm still looking for the problem. Oh, I see, the good parts of the country infested with refugee New Yawkers. You have a point.
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I had the chance to talk with Idaho Fish and Game Director Cal Groen a few months back, and he told me the sale of out of state deer and elk tags was way down, the #1 reason being the effect of Canadian gray wolves on the herds. The general (rifle) elk season is only 10 days this year in most parts of the state, except for the Lolo region, where there is no season at all. It's no coincidence that the Lolo region has Idaho's highest density of wolves.
You want feedback from Northwestern hunters on Gov. Otter's telling the USFWS to stick their Canadian gray wolves up their Obamas? Here it is...way to go, Butch!!! Gov. Otter was already going to coast to re-election (last poll I saw showed him with about a 25-30 point lead over his doofus opponent), but I suspect he'll pick up even more support now. He's certainly won my vote over and over again.
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"The locals are exaggerating, there isn't really a problem" is, after all, what the feds have been telling the citizens of Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas for the last several years. That isn't about wolves either.
I propose a compromise...capture the wolves in Idaho and neighboring states. Transport them and release them near the Arizona border with Mexico...if there are too many wolves, send them to New Mexico and Texas as well. California can fend for itself...
Many politic personalities wish to reclaim Idaho's own land, and repeal the 17th Amendment. This should be good :)
Sounded like the wolves were getting closer didn't it? That could get a little spooky, especially if it were some of those big muthas. Of course just waving their arms would have likely sent the pack, er, packing.
Interesting. I figured that the wolves were WAY out of control up there. I hope this guy wins big.
In fact, there sure are a lot of feisty We-the-People type Americans coming forward in lower offices these days, from every nook and cranny. It’s very encouraging.
I now carry a .45 Kimber with plenty of magazines :)
Can’t go wrong with those. Some serious firepower you got there bud.
Congrats to the young hunter who saved 100 elk by killing that bloodthirsty four legged serial killer.
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At last! A truly American act by an American elected official.
Not, as I hear, when it comes to wide loads headed for Canadian oil fields, traveling on narrow, curvy two-lane roads in North Idaho. Google “big loads idaho otter” for information. He must be getting some money from Exxon.
From the article
“Many Idahoans are worried the oil giant’s plan to ship 200 of the Korean-built modules - 24 feet wide, 30 feet tall and 162 feet long - will increase the risk of a major foul-up in the Lochsa canyon east of Kooskia. The shipments exceed the legal capacity of U.S. 12, which snakes up the Clearwater River past Orofino and into Montana.”
The Dem congressman wants a delay.
After my better half purchased a Ruger Montado in .45 LC, I want one myself. Just add a Doc Holliday holster for concealed carry.
"I'll be yore Huckleberry":)))
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Please remove from list. Thanks bunches!
Thanks! Great stuff... on so MANY levels.
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