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Sean Bielat Crushes Barney Frank in Debate on WGBHs Greater Boston
massachusetts-election-2010.com ^

Posted on 10/19/2010 7:56:46 AM PDT by jessduntno

Emily Rooney moderated a debate between Barney Frank and Sean Bielat on October 14th. Rooney starts by noting that Bielat has come from outside of politics to be a surprisingly strong challenge to Frank. She calls it the “race everyone is talking about.”

As usual, Frank does most of the talking. Bielat has been learning how to get Frank to hang himself, and at many points during the debate, Frank does just that. Bielat has Frank almost stuttering and blabbering trying to make complex arguments that appear to make no sense.

Rooney had to cut Frank off several times in what seemed like an act of charity. Bielat speaks for maybe one fifth of the time, and wins easily.

Debate Highlights: Frank’s “Kerry Waffling” Moment

If you watch nothing else, you must see the exchange starting at about 6:50, where Bielat gets Frank into a Kerry-like “I was for it before I was against it” argument. Frank is talking about his opposition to a failed 2005 Bill that would have reformed Fannie Mae:

Frank: “The bill passed the house, so I could hardly be blamed [for opposing it].”

Bielat: “Even though you voted against it?”

Frank: “Yes, I can’t be blamed. It passed the House.”

Bielat: “But you voted against it.”

Frank: “Let me explain. I voted for it in committee. [later] I voted against it because it weakened an unrelated provision. But you can’t blame me for stopping something when I was in the minority.”

Bielat: “No. If you voted against it, I think I can.”

Frank: “But I didn’t stop it. This is what you don’t understand. The bill passed the House where I served…”

Bielat: “At the end of the day you still voted against the bill.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fwank
Bawney gets smoked ... but not the way he would like.

It continues like that for awhile. You can see on his face that Bielat can hardly believe his good fortune at having Barney bury himself like this. Bielat finishes:

“You voted against that bill. In 2004 you co-authored a letter with Nancy Pelosi to the Bush Administration calling for less restrictions on Freddie and Fannie. The record is clear.”

Emily Rooney tries to save Barney at this point by moving the discussion on to other topics, but Barney insists on taking another stab at explaining the inexplicable, making the point that the bill was ultimately blocked, not by him, but by Republicans.

Bielat is incredulous:

“So you’re upset because some Republicans voted the same way you did? Is that the argument that you’re making?”

1 posted on 10/19/2010 7:56:50 AM PDT by jessduntno
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To: jessduntno

So, did Franks boyfriend come back again to make a scene?


2 posted on 10/19/2010 7:59:01 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: jessduntno

So, did Franks boyfriend come back again to make a scene?


3 posted on 10/19/2010 7:59:01 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: jessduntno

RE: Sean Bielat Crushes Barney Frank in Debate on WGBH’s Greater Boston


But will the voters of that district pay attention and even care? They’ve had Bawney for so long it’s like a bad habit...


4 posted on 10/19/2010 7:59:22 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: jessduntno
“So you’re upset because some Republicans voted the same way you did? Is that the argument that you’re making?”

I'm so glad there is finally a crop of candidates calling these a-holes out on their lies and schemes.
5 posted on 10/19/2010 7:59:35 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("Sorry I'm late. I had to stop by the wax museum to give the finger to FDR!" C.Hill (Palin '12))
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To: jessduntno

For Bielat it was a classic case of being in a battle of wits with an unarmed man...


6 posted on 10/19/2010 8:00:33 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WebFocus
Barney, the Bugger of Bayonne doesn't need the votes of the "little people," all he needs is the vote fraud machine in the leftist, gay part of his district to kick in.

Remeber, "Gerrymandering" was invented in Massachusetts.

7 posted on 10/19/2010 8:02:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: jessduntno

Just like any liberal. You start throwing facts in their direction, and they bury themselves.


8 posted on 10/19/2010 8:04:02 AM PDT by Wee-Weed Up
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To: jessduntno

Its annoying the GOP never put a Conservative up against this babbling idiot two decades ago.


9 posted on 10/19/2010 8:06:41 AM PDT by Badeye (I can see NOVEMBER from My HOUSE.)
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To: jessduntno

ouch, gonna leave a mark..


10 posted on 10/19/2010 8:06:46 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: jessduntno

Thanks for posting.

What a great candidate Sean is.

He makes us proud.


11 posted on 10/19/2010 8:09:30 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Kenny Bunk

It was Edmund Gerry(close friend of John Adams)wasn’t it?


12 posted on 10/19/2010 8:09:38 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: jessduntno
Have they found any little boys in your basement lately Barney?
13 posted on 10/19/2010 8:09:40 AM PDT by PLD (When you receive a kindness,remember it;when you bestow one,forget it)
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To: jessduntno

Ping so I can LMAO later.


14 posted on 10/19/2010 8:11:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Badeye
Its annoying the GOP never put a Conservative up against this babbling idiot two decades ago.

Because the GOP has considered conservatives an embarrassment.

Hopefully they're learning to know better.

15 posted on 10/19/2010 8:12:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

>the GOP has considered conservatives an embarrassment.

Hopefully they’re learning to know better. <

If Charlie Baker and “Little Richie” Tisei are any indication,the Ma. GOP hasn’t learned a thing....

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/baker_tisei/index.html


16 posted on 10/19/2010 8:16:47 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: jessduntno

“So you’re upset because some Republicans voted the same way you did? Is that the argument that you’re making?”

Not many people are that fast on the comeback. We need LOTS more of that.......


17 posted on 10/19/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: SoldierDad

“Ping so I can LMAO later.”

He tied him in knots ... this kid is the real deal.


18 posted on 10/19/2010 8:24:11 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: massmike

Include Jennifer Nassour on that list. Remember when Republicans wanted to be on the front page of The Boston Pilot? Now they trip over Conservatives trying to get on the cover of Bay Windows.


19 posted on 10/19/2010 8:25:18 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Badeye
Its annoying the GOP never put a Conservative up against this babbling idiot two decades ago.

Massachusetts has an overwhelming Democrat voter registration advantage and Barney Frank (of Newton) usually wins re-election handily. I'm sure the RNC stopped putting any real money into Massachusetts races a long time ago, especially against an entrenched liberal such as Barney Frank. However, this is a new era. The Tea Party is a grass roots movement ignited by the destructive actions of the Democrats, now exposed by their actions in congress and the White House as the elitist dictators they always wanted to be. Even Barney Frank will have to fight for his re-election, which is no longer a sure thing. About time.

21 posted on 10/19/2010 8:28:45 AM PDT by Jim Scott (Cautious optimist)
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To: jessduntno
Bielat has Frank almost stuttering and blabbering trying to make complex arguments that appear to make no sense.

Isn't that how Barney is on any given day of the week?


22 posted on 10/19/2010 8:32:17 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Today, Congress. Tomorrow, the White House!)
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Oh...you gotta watch this video. It’s sublime.


23 posted on 10/19/2010 8:33:42 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Give me your secrets, Bring me a sign, Give me a reason to walk the fire.")
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To: massgopguy

I haven’t forgotten about her......

New Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/nassour/index.html


24 posted on 10/19/2010 8:35:14 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: bandleader
That's Elbridge (or Elderbridge ... although I prepped with the guy, I don't remember ... fair ball player) Gerry
25 posted on 10/19/2010 8:35:26 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: Liz
Liz, you are just so "gender-normative," (politically correct way to say "homophobic). Barney's hands never left the table, which is probably why he was tongue-tied.

As far as his debate performance, Barney scored major points by being so "vulnerable." He is the "victim" here and Aunt Zeituni and her supporters will rush to defend him. Remember this is Massachusetts, where Saint Ted scored his first victory because the voters felt sorry for the way he was mistreated by that brute Fitzpatrick.

Also, Barney (aka The Bugger of Bayonne) is to be commended for NOT having his hysterical young catamite rush the stage and make a scene. All in all, this appearance, which would have been counted as a disgraceful loss in a state something like Montana, and where B the B of B would have been laughed out of town or worse, is a Major Massachusetts Victory for the Sodomite Democrat,

26 posted on 10/19/2010 8:48:32 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: WebFocus
They’ve had Bawney for so long it’s like a bad habit ...

You would think more than half the voters would notice that their representative is a radical leftist homosexual whoremonger who is dishonest even when compared to other Democrat congresspeople ... but maybe they like that and consider him an accurate representative of themselves.

27 posted on 10/19/2010 8:49:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love the smell of napalm in November. Cue the Wagner music ...)
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To: Kenny Bunk
As far as his debate (cough) performance, Barney scored points for being "vulnerable,".... and a "victim".... This is Massachusetts, where St Ted scored his first victory because voters felt sorry for the way he was mistreated by that brute Fitzpatrick.

Sniffle----I'm all broke up about it, myself (sob).

28 posted on 10/19/2010 8:57:03 AM PDT by Liz (Nov 2 will be one more stitch in Obama's political shroud.)
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To: jessduntno
"Bielat has Frank almost stuttering and blabbering..."

Well, nothing against Bielat, but that's no big accomplishment!

29 posted on 10/19/2010 9:07:45 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: jessduntno

Opinion follows: Let me qualify by stating that I despise Barney Frank and almost everything he stands for. I did watch the entire video.

Barney has been on O’Reilly several times and typically wins on debate points. In this debate, Barney was his typical droning and overbearing self. He sat slumped in the chair and did not look anywhere near as professional as Bielat. A lot of the discussion was over the heads of most of the voters in Taxachussetts. From a strictly debate standpoint (as viewed by voters) Barney got in as many shots (even if most were lies) as did his opponent. So from that standpoint, the debate was a draw.

In the final analyis, however, the idiots in his district will likely re-elect the homo.


30 posted on 10/19/2010 9:08:03 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: jessduntno

BFL, though I don’t think I can watch barney getting spanked without losing my lunch.


31 posted on 10/19/2010 9:09:12 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Liz
Dear Liz,
Thank you for sympathetic reaction to my brutalization at the hands of that hunky Marine. What a tease! I thought he was "coming on to me, but then ... those questions ... from Hell! So glad you understand, as those evangelical neanderthals from the southern part of my district so obviously do not!

Confident of victory because of support from friends like you, I look forward to redecorating my flat in DC, and if you're ever in town after you and your girl-and girl-boy-gang in Newton vote for me, I would appreciate your reaction to the new curtains in my breakfast nook.

Fondest Regards,
Barney

32 posted on 10/19/2010 9:10:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Dear Barney,

Why don’t you go perform an anatomical impossibility with yourself.

Your pal,

Liz


33 posted on 10/19/2010 9:14:18 AM PDT by Liz (Nov 2 will be one more stitch in Obama's political shroud.)
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To: secondamendmentkid

“Barney got in as many shots (even if most were lies) as did his opponent. So from that standpoint, the debate was a draw.”

Huh? Bawney westled a dwaw fwom him based on lies? Weawwy?


34 posted on 10/19/2010 9:14:27 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: Liz
Dear Barney,
Why don’t you go perform an anatomical impossibility with yourself.

Well, as long as he doesn't do it in the street and frighten the horses....

35 posted on 10/19/2010 9:23:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: jessduntno

It would a a great night on November 2nd to have Barney Frank go down in defeat.


36 posted on 10/19/2010 9:44:35 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: jessduntno
Barney raised strawmen after strawman.. so fast they all couldnt possibly be addressed..
Thats what he does... talk so fast the strawmen couldnt all be addressed..
He goes in many directions... on purpose..

BUT he zeros in at the end of the diatribe to appear to be cogent..
What Bielat did was hang onto one(of the) strawman like the grim reaper..
Thats the clue.. expose his circle jerk gambit..
Frank masterbates the issues by raising issues not spoken of..
then returns to the issue at hand.. the con is confusing the issue by non issues..
THEN expecting "you" make sense of what he just almost said...

Appears to work too... unless you(the opponent) exposes the gambit..

37 posted on 10/19/2010 9:47:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Jim Scott

Actually, if you look back to 1982, the GOP NEVER even tried, which is why this babbling idiot has won ‘easily’.


38 posted on 10/19/2010 9:49:30 AM PDT by Badeye (I can see NOVEMBER from My HOUSE.)
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To: jessduntno

This debate is pathetic.
Barney is his typical blubbering fool.
Bielat, The moderator, me....we are all like WTF is this tard blabbering about?
lol

How could any sane minded human being vote for that obnoxous clown?
And don’t blame all of MA, I’m from the 9th.
I WISH i could help vote this freak out.


39 posted on 10/19/2010 10:45:05 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: jessduntno

Um, LOL. He tied him in knots? Maybe not the best way to phrase considering who Bawney Fwank is!! LOL.


40 posted on 10/19/2010 10:45:05 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: SoldierDad

“Um, LOL. He tied him in knots? Maybe not the best way to phrase considering who Bawney Fwank is!! LOL.”

Small knot. No hitch.


41 posted on 10/19/2010 10:49:00 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: jessduntno

LOL


42 posted on 10/19/2010 8:40:33 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: jessduntno

This young man Bielat is going to be a major player on the national stage some day.


43 posted on 10/19/2010 8:45:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jessduntno

Bawney always seems to speak like he has a mouth full of _____! And, why was he constantly shifting and lifting up his @rse? And, his answers? How the hell could he possibly have been elected and re-elected for all these years? Those who vote for this @sshat got what they deserved. Now, it’s time for the voters in that district to wake up and get rid of the dead wood (pun fully intended).


44 posted on 10/19/2010 10:41:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: SoldierDad

Thpeaking of Bawney; did you see this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5ZS1TP0DU2c


45 posted on 10/19/2010 10:59:05 PM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: jessduntno

Probably not. I am unable to view at the present time. I’ll watch later.


46 posted on 10/20/2010 1:04:10 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: jessduntno

Wow! Hard to run away from your own words there, Bawney! What a complete @rsehat.


47 posted on 10/20/2010 6:53:22 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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