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GOP House Leaders Seek to Avoid Mistakes of '94 [We need to tell them HELL NO!!]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | October 19, 2010 | Naftali Bendavid

Posted on 10/19/2010 10:33:15 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism

PORTLAND, Ore.—Republicans on the campaign trail are bashing the president and his agenda and some are vowing to shut down Washington if they don't get their way. Behind the scenes, key party members are talking a different game.

A number of House Republicans, including some who are likely to be in the leadership, are pushing a post-election strategy aimed at securing concrete legislation, with the goal of showing they can translate general principles into specific action.

Among the ideas is to bring a series of bills to the floor, as often as once a week, designed to cut spending in some way. Longer term, GOP leaders say they recognize they may have to compromise with Democrats in tackling broader problems.

If they recapture the House, Republicans say they are wary of following the example of the class of 1994, which shut down the government in a standoff with President Bill Clinton. Top Republicans contend that passing legislation, or at least making a good faith effort to do so, will earn them more credibility with voters than refusing to waver from purist principles. Races in 2010

"It's pretty clear the American people expect us to use the existing gridlock to create compromise and advance their agenda," said Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.). "They want us to come together [with the administration] after we agree to disagree."

GOP leaders stressed that this depends on the willingness of President Barack Obama to compromise as well. And some say if the post-election atmosphere is especially toxic, such compromises may be difficult.

The approach stands in contrast to the Senate, where Republican nominees including Kentucky's Rand Paul and Nevada's Sharron Angle more clearly represent the anti-establishment instincts of the tea-party movement.

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This needs to be front page news. After the ENORMOUS and tireless time, money, and effort we patriotic conservatives have spent over the past two years trying to secure a House and Senate majority necessary for the Republican party to bring the Obama administration's radical left-wing agenda to a screeching halt, we absolutely CANNOT allow the inside-the-beltway GOP establishment to ruin and destroy this by compromising with the Dems.

Rush Limbaugh is LIVID at the GOP "leadership" over this story and has been blasting them during his entire radio show today. We need to amplify our voices as well and perhaps it's time to start flooding representatives like Darrell Issa, John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell with some phone calls and e-mails. This reach-across-the-aisle-and-compromise-with-America's-enemies approach CANNOT be allowed to stand for one minute longer!

1 posted on 10/19/2010 10:33:19 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Once again revealing their true colors as the party of Democrat lite.

There can be no compromise with a group of horrors dedicated to the destruction of the American way of life.

Start by ending USAID, the Dept of Education, and the Dept of Homeland Security (splitting its functions up between the FBI and CIA as needed). Next up, is the BATF.


2 posted on 10/19/2010 10:36:01 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: DestroyLiberalism

These gentlemen had better start paying attention.

We want leadership - not pussyfooting.

Period.


3 posted on 10/19/2010 10:36:15 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

A losing position: being too willing to compromise.


4 posted on 10/19/2010 10:36:24 AM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: DestroyLiberalism

We all must write to our “Leaders” and remind them where to go — Repealville!


5 posted on 10/19/2010 10:38:36 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: DestroyLiberalism
If we win big, then perhaps the Compromising should start with the Democrats:

How much are they willing to cut from obamacare?
How much are they willing to restrict abortion?
How much are they willing to cut the federal budget? 10%? 20%?

What? They aren't willing to compromise on any of that??? Well, then I guess I don't want to compromise either.

6 posted on 10/19/2010 10:39:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Didn’t someone just try to get elected President by saying this?


7 posted on 10/19/2010 10:39:36 AM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Well, this is their last chance. Either wake up and figure out what’s going on, or the party will die and all these hacks will be shoveled into the dust bin of history.

The time is now. Time has run out. No more time. Wake up or the party dies. NOW.

I’m afraid they’ve already showed their true colors in Delaware. They know that if O’Donnell wins, the party hacks will lose their jobs. So, they’d rather do anything to make her lose. Well, that is no longer an option. Won’t work any longer.


8 posted on 10/19/2010 10:39:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

The only “compromise” that should even be discussed is the same courtesy of “compromise” the RATs showed them!

What’s with these clowns?! Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again?!


9 posted on 10/19/2010 10:40:05 AM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

No, no - they should compromise with us, not the other way around.

This is going to have to be a tsunami - not only for the numbers on paper that would send a message, but because that would mean more fresh blood (brand new members of Congress not tainted by the inside the beltway mode of thinking).


10 posted on 10/19/2010 10:40:11 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Yet_Again

These next two years may be the final two years for the GOP. RINOs are politicians before they are anything else.


11 posted on 10/19/2010 10:41:01 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism
Among the ideas is to bring a series of bills to the floor, as often as once a week, designed to cut spending in some way.

This is a good thing, and I fully support it. Even if those bills fail or are filibustered/vetoed, it shows the new congress is serious about trying to address problems. I hope these bills are not all symbolic fluff-cutting; I want some bills with serious cuts included in this flurry.

Longer term, GOP leaders say they recognize they may have to compromise with Democrats in tackling broader problems.

This on the other hand is a little unsettling. Politics are of course the art of compromise, but after all we have gone through, they had better not start compromising on our core principals. The article is a little vague on what is specifically meant by this - it could be a trial ballon for traditional GOP surrender, or it could be simply a statement to shut up early complaints from the left. But it feels more likely to be bad than good.

12 posted on 10/19/2010 10:41:31 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If the Republicans don’t at least force some cloture votes and vetos, if they go right into compromise mode, they will become the Whigs of the 21st Century.


13 posted on 10/19/2010 10:42:06 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: A. Morgan
This is NOT the time for compromise or to be reaching ‘across the aisle’ to our rat ‘friends’. This is the time to bring the rats to a grinding halt on ALL of their anti-American, socialist BS. Not just no but HELL NO!!
14 posted on 10/19/2010 10:42:21 AM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: DestroyLiberalism
If they recapture the House, Republicans say they are wary of following the example of the class of 1994, which shut down the government in a standoff with President Bill Clinton. Top Republicans contend that passing legislation, or at least making a good faith effort to do so, will earn them more credibility with voters than refusing to waver from purist principles.

The class of 1994 tried to do too much too fast and lost control of the message - that's what was done wrong, rather than what they were trying to accomplish. There is a difference.

15 posted on 10/19/2010 10:42:51 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DestroyLiberalism

There was a thread here the other day (maybe several) where everyon climbed all over Obama for sayint that one way or another the GOP would take a new tone and “work with him”.

This prompted Gullible Fools into bomarding the place with electons crying “How crazy! Never! No they won’t!”

And now alredy we have the warm up act....

Anyone who thinks the Republicans “get it” now that they are fearing for their survival is insane.

The only thing they “get” is the tone they have to adopt temporarily.

It’s interesting how many here decry the gullilbility of Arizonans re McCain, then proceed to make a showing of their own.


16 posted on 10/19/2010 10:45:09 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Republican Wildcat

Please identify these “leaders” prior to the election.


17 posted on 10/19/2010 10:46:19 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Cicero

“Well, this is their last chance”

LOL!

No, it isn’t.

The next time they will still be the “lesser of 2 evils”. Adn there will still be plenty here crying “a third party is a sure recipe for defeat!”.

Rinse, and repeat....


18 posted on 10/19/2010 10:46:55 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Can you turn “GOP goes RINO, TPA goes 3rd party” into an effective bumper sticker?


19 posted on 10/19/2010 10:47:03 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Well, there they go again...


20 posted on 10/19/2010 10:48:08 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: DestroyLiberalism

HELL no.

And here I thought I wouldn’t curse anymore.

You mock us at your peril, Pubbies.


21 posted on 10/19/2010 10:48:34 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: AzSteven

“I hope these bills are not all symbolic fluff-cutting;”

I have some bad news for you...

What do you think “in some way” is supposed to mean? Particularly from the guys who are already talking about concilliation before the election is even held?


22 posted on 10/19/2010 10:48:37 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: DestroyLiberalism
"Republicans say they are wary of following the example of the class of 1994, which shut down the government in a standoff with President Bill Clinton."

It was Clinton who shut down the government. The Republicans passed and budget and sent it to Clinton for signature. Clinton vetoed the bill and thus shut down the government. Taking the position that the Repubs must conceed to whatever Obama wants and it they don't then it will be the Pubs who responsible for Obama shutting down government is madness.

23 posted on 10/19/2010 10:48:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: DestroyLiberalism

NO you republicans are NOT ging to do that! You all need to learn from Nancy and lock the door and do not listen to the left wail. If you do this then America will turn on yu just as fast as they did to the dems. Listen and Learn we do not want you to work with the dems they are the enemy.


24 posted on 10/19/2010 10:50:03 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Looks as though we still have work to do. A good start would be the RNC and the Quisling hacks infesting the national GOP office in DC. Then, if necessary, another House cleaning in 2012!!!

How unfortunate that the country needed to be driven to the very edge of the statist, collectivist, socialist abyss to get folks off their duffs. I just pray they REMAIN off their duffs as there is more to do. Actually, it should have been done decades ago.

Over the years – when, to steal a line from Billy Joel, I wore a younger man’s clothes – I was involved with several pretty solid conservative candidates for Congress. One was a Democrat (Lawrence Patton McDonald) – because that was the only way he could win in that district. Those old-timers who know Larry’s record will tell you that he was a solid an anti-communist America Firster and more Republican than the Pubbies in nearby districts at the time. (His mother’s cousin was General George Patton from whom he got the middle name – and his incredible resolve and love of this country.)

Those other candidates ran as Republicans. Because I was a rabid Bircher back then (still am philosophically!), those candidates had to pass my rigid litmus test or I went looking for someone who did. For that reason, I hooked up with what the TRADITIONAL country club Pubbie establishment types believed were too radical for their refined tastes.

As those campaigns began to unfold and it became clear to the country clubbers that these guys 1) had a shot and 2) were pretty independent thinkers who would be hard to keep on the reservation once they got sworn in, the local Pubbies communicated that information to the Republican National HQ types who rather quickly sent in campaign “professionals” ostensibly to lock up the impending victory.

Instead, in nearly every case to which I was privy, these “professionals” proceeded to TORPEDO our guy’s campaign in subtle but effective ways.

From that experience I can tell you that the Pubbies at the HQ in D.C. would rather have a Democrat win a given district than have a pubbie up there who would embarrass them by refusing to follow the party line.

If YOU become involved in campaigns for solidly conservative, America and Constitution loving, hard-nosed, independent thinking candidates in 2010 and 2012 and beyond – and I pray many of you do — please DO NOT trust any of those folks from GOP HQ in Washington. If they want to send you no-strings cash for your campaign, take it. If, however, they “suggest” sending in one of their “professionals,” tell them to fuggetaboutit.

They ARE WHO GOT US INTO THIS MESS AND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!

“The common and continual mischief of the spirit of Party is
sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to
discourage and restrain it.” G. Washington


25 posted on 10/19/2010 10:50:34 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: A. Morgan

a compromise with Obama = getting NOTHING we want and EVERYTHING he wants!


26 posted on 10/19/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by a real Sheila (REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: DestroyLiberalism
Paging Casey Stengel: "Does anyone here know how to play this game?"

It's really quite simple: you kick their asses and then make them compromise with you. Why is this so hard for Republicans? Are they so desperate to be liked by the establishment media (that will always detest them, no matter what they do)? Are their spouses ignoring them? Were they abused as children? Winning feels good, honest. You guys really ought to try it sometime before doing the usual French Army impression.

27 posted on 10/19/2010 10:51:03 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

The horse is out of the barn. They can’t go back. Now, if they don’t compromise, the dems will say the republicans are liars.


28 posted on 10/19/2010 10:51:09 AM PDT by Crawdad (Obamacare will lead to back-alley physicals.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Compromise with Communism is subversion. We are not electing Republicans so we can get socialism on a slower time schedule.

HELL NO TO COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 10/19/2010 10:52:36 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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Tell them.

Republican National Committee

310 First Street, SE
Washington, DC 20003

info@gop.com

p 202.863.8500 | f 202.863.8820

Read more: http://gop.com/index.php/page_content/act#ixzz12pN9LfOV

For toll-free numbers paid for by Members of Congress, click here .

The following numbers are paid for by advocacy groups. They may stop working at any time.

866-338-1015

877-851-6437

877-210-5351

Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) 1-800-582-1001


30 posted on 10/19/2010 10:53:36 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

It’ll probably be the Senate RINO’s who sabotage everything for us


31 posted on 10/19/2010 10:53:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: AzSteven
Among the ideas is to bring a series of bills to the floor, as often as once a week, designed to cut spending in some way.

This is an idea which will never happen, is not meant ever to happen. It is boob bait-- sounds good, won't happen. If the GOP wants to prove their bona fides, they can start by passing a budget--which we never got this year from the 'rats btw-- and pass it at about the levels of 2007.

Then they can defund all of obamacare, and dismantle the cancerous bureaucracy the bill creates.

If they do that then they can go play their little reindeer games like they always do.

32 posted on 10/19/2010 10:54:08 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DestroyLiberalism
If true I suppose the next step is a constitutional convention.

I am not surprised by this story though, I must admit. RINO's are undoubtedly democrat lite.

33 posted on 10/19/2010 10:54:09 AM PDT by atc23
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To: DestroyLiberalism
Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.). "They want us to come together [with the administration] after we agree to disagree."

It sounds to me like Issa just disqualified himself from any kind of leadership position. Someone needs to ask him what part of Obama's desire to destroy the country does he want to get together with Obama on?

34 posted on 10/19/2010 10:54:51 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Republican Wildcat
The class of 1994 tried to do too much too fast

yep, ditto the class of '08. Both of them resulted in massive backlash. A more moderate pace likely would have resulted at least the same legislation, without everyone getting kicked out at the end of the term.

"More moderate" doesn't necessarily mean "More agreeable". It can also mean, "We're not going to force every little thing that we've ever wanted on the electorate."

But, unfortunately in this case, past history shows that it likely means "more agreeable".

35 posted on 10/19/2010 10:57:27 AM PDT by wbill
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To: DestroyLiberalism
obama's response to a request for compromise was, "I Won!"...

ANY COMPROMISE ON ANY PART OF THE OBAMA AGENDA IS A VOTE AGAINST AMERICA...
36 posted on 10/19/2010 10:57:39 AM PDT by FrankR (You are only obligated to obama to the extent you accept his handouts.)
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To: Cicero

“Well, this is their last chance. Either wake up and figure out what’s going on, or the party will die and all these hacks will be shoveled into the dust bin of history.”

They do not realize how close they stand to oblivion.

This truly is their last chance. If they botch this, remain passive or sell out in 2011, they will be abandoned en masse, and with finality.

In 2012, it will go like this for them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3fQEwedU8&feature=related


37 posted on 10/19/2010 10:58:37 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: AzSteven

“Politics are of course the art of compromise, but after all we have gone through, they had better not start compromising on our core principals. The article is a little vague on what is specifically meant by this - it could be a trial ballon for traditional GOP surrender, or it could be simply a statement to shut up early complaints from the left. But it feels more likely to be bad than good.”

************************************************************

Obama announced just last week that he has no intentions whatsoever of compromising with a GOP-controlled congress and that Republicans are going to have to be the ones to JOIN HIM to get anything accomplished!

I swear, if the GOP blows this huge mandate we’re about to hand them by caving with the Dems on major legislation, then I’ll be officially FINISHED with the GOP and would be willing to vanquish them by putting all my future time, energy, and financial resources into a Constitutional-based third party. The Republican party is on thin ice right now as it is.


38 posted on 10/19/2010 11:01:07 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Yet_Again
Once again revealing their true colors as the party of Democrat lite.

Make that Socialist/Communist lite.

39 posted on 10/19/2010 11:01:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: andy58-in-nh

I’ve never been able to understand the Republicans go along to get along mentality.


40 posted on 10/19/2010 11:04:18 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: DestroyLiberalism

So predictable.

Those who still believe that the Republican Party is conservative are in denial.


41 posted on 10/19/2010 11:04:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There were fourteen victims at Fort Hood.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Tired of RINOs!

We need these people OUT!


42 posted on 10/19/2010 11:07:40 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

My advice on this site as far back as the 2004 election is not to waste one’s vote on a third party.

My advice will be the same in 2012, no matter whether the Republicans do what they will be elected to do or go the RINO route.

But if the Republicans we elect do wimp out, then they will be the “third party” I will tell people not to waste their votes on.


43 posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Crawdad

I wonder how different things would be if senators were not elected by popular vote, but rather appointed out of the state legislatures?


44 posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:41 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: DestroyLiberalism
Top Republicans contend that passing legislation, or at least making a good faith effort to do so, will earn them more credibility with voters than refusing to waver from purist principles.

Translation:

"Yeah, let's pass some more (crappy, unconstitutional, socialist) laws, or at least make people believe we're doing something! That'll fix everything! (Well, at least it will help us keep the power we think we're about to regain...)"

45 posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There were fourteen victims at Fort Hood.)
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To: wbill
Yes - more moderate pace, not more moderate principles.
46 posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:55 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cvq3842
But if the Republicans we elect do wimp out, then they will be the “third party” I will tell people not to waste their votes on.

Well then, get ready. Some things are as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning. Republican wimpiness is one of those things.

Last conservative out of the GOP, turn out the lights, please...

47 posted on 10/19/2010 11:11:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There were fourteen victims at Fort Hood.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

If the Republicans win back the majority in the House maybe they should ask Nanzi if she would like to share the speakership. Idiots!


48 posted on 10/19/2010 11:12:42 AM PDT by surrey
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Did they say who they were “quoting?” I think this is from some of those elite RINO’s who are dreading what the elections are going to do to them. If a writer/reporter can’t name names, I don’t believe them.


49 posted on 10/19/2010 11:13:10 AM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published title, thanks.


50 posted on 10/19/2010 11:13:46 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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