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To: opentalk
The Constitution separates the State from the Church...
NOT the church from the State..

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Whats with all the laws passed to restrict "the Church" from "the State"..
Democrats must be dyslexic.. they reverse the context..
AND no republicans call them on it..

THIS MUST CHANGE... and it is.. The TP Caucus is growing, growing, growing..

5 posted on 10/20/2010 10:14:09 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Great post, thanks

As pointed out in the article, it is very troubling that under Dean Kagan, Harvard law students were not required to study constitutional law — but did require the study of foreign law.

9 posted on 10/20/2010 10:20:30 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: hosepipe
When Kagan was Dean of Harvard Law School, she accepted millions of Saudi dollars for an Islamic Studies Program.

Could this mean a Sharia Law studies program? Yet Constitutional law was not a priority.

23 posted on 10/20/2010 10:53:04 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: hosepipe
"The Constitution separates the State from the Church... NOT the church from the State.. "


--Looking at the writings of Madison it looks very clear that it indeed was meant to go both ways.

From the "Detached Memoranda":

"The establishment of the chaplainship to Congs is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional pnnciples: The tenets of the chaplains elected by the majority shut the door of worship agst the members whose creeds & consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority."

""Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative."

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history".

"But besides the danger of a direct mixture of Religion & civil Government , there is an evil which ought to be guarded agst in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by ecclesiastical corporations."

And in a letter wrote:
"Every new and successful example, therefore, of a perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters , is of importance; and I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together."
73 posted on 10/20/2010 2:44:47 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: hosepipe

And secularism is more or less a religion. As is atheism.


79 posted on 10/20/2010 7:55:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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