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Teachers Fight Release of Data
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/20/10 | BARBARA MARTINEZ

Posted on 10/20/2010 7:42:56 PM PDT by Nachum

The New York City teachers union is fighting the release of data that tries to gauge the effectiveness of 12,000 of its members, saying the measuring system is too flawed to make teachers' names public. The city Department of Education was set to release the data Wednesday, spurred by public-records requests from news organizations, including The Wall Street Journal. But the United Federation of Teachers threatened a lawsuit, and the DOE delayed its plans. A DOE spokeswoman said that unless a court interferes, the city intends to make them public Friday.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: data; fight; release; teachers

1 posted on 10/20/2010 7:43:02 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

2 posted on 10/20/2010 7:45:59 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Am I my half-brother's keeper?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Good catch. United Federation of Teachers.


3 posted on 10/20/2010 7:55:47 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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They need to be fired by the thousands to go get real jobs. Then class sizes need to be moved up to 35. Then we need licensed disciplinarians who pound the crap out of some unruly kids ass with total immunity from suit!! And the problems are solved and we move on to the next social problem.


4 posted on 10/20/2010 8:01:38 PM PDT by Benchim
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Let those teachers “pound the crap out of [all of the] unruly kids ass with total immunity from suit!!”

:-)

Kids are not widgets. But you can beat widgets.


5 posted on 10/20/2010 8:06:00 PM PDT by bannie (Gone to seed.)
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To: Nachum; All

Pictures of a school in Russia:

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/10/20/oh-these-wonderful-school-days/#more-20302


6 posted on 10/20/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: Nachum
...saying the measuring system is too flawed to make teachers' names public.

But let me guess... They continue to employ the flawed measuring system, pouring valuable resources into it, right? Safe assumption since they have the data and it is apparently current enough to be an issue...and we have people this stupid attempting to teach our kids?

7 posted on 10/20/2010 9:22:55 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Nov 2 is coming...)
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Obviously Benchim has never been a teacher! Teaching is one of the HARDEST jobs he'll never have. How is the transmission of knowledge to the next generation, plus socializing them, and in many cases giving them the only understanding adult they have in their lives NOT a "real job"?

You have, at least in NYC, up to 34 kids in a high school class, which is way too many. That means kids are sitting cheek to cheek, no spare seats to move troublemakers to, easy to cheat off each others' tests, and too many kids to give much personal attention during the 43 minute period. Additionally, all the research data clearly shows that smaller class sizes give better results.

As far as "licensed disciplinarians who pound the crap out of some unruly kids ass with total immunity from suit", well DREAM ON, buddy. Do you think that a pounding would result in better behavior? When a lot of the kids are pretty immune to pounding, getting plenty of it at home from abusive out-of-control parents? Is that your best idea of how to reach kids, Mr. Neantherthal? You even look cross-eyed at a kid in a NYC classroom, you are hauled up on disciplinary charges, and the kids all LIE about the terrible thing the teacher said or did to them. NOTHING happens to them whatsoever when their claims are proved false, but meanwhile, they have ruined the careers of some of the most dedicated teachers you'll ever see.

Your wholesale denigration of teachers and your crude superficial "solution" clearly delineate you as a cretin among cretins, fella. Keep your day job, leave educational matters to professionals.

8 posted on 10/21/2010 7:53:35 AM PDT by EinNYC
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With all due respect for your union (none) you ask “Do you think that a pounding would result in better behavior? “ I know damned well and good it would. You can’t believe the difference that would make in 1 HOUR!!! I was raised in Texas in to 50s and 60s. There were NO discipline problems — ZERO. If you screwed up (as I did) you met the assistant principal and a football coach (usually the line backer coach) None of this call the parents first crap. You stood on a red tile in the main hall way of the school, It made you a man . When that board with the holes drilled in it hit you ass you lost consciousness. And if you got two swats you saw the white light of the Lord Jesus. we had 3000 in our high school and they all heard the POP. But by God you never did that again. Get real.Get off this liberal crap that has destroyed our education and made these “American idol” watchers out these dumb idiots. the system has done a bad job in America and you know it.


9 posted on 10/21/2010 4:45:37 PM PDT by Benchim
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Benchim - member since 9/12/10

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

And BTW, I disagree with you.


10 posted on 10/21/2010 4:55:43 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: EinNYC

IF teachers would stop ‘socializing’ our young we would have less ‘liberal’ voters.


11 posted on 10/21/2010 5:02:03 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: airborne

Thank you for your service to our country and God Bless you. You have every right to disagree with anyone including me. Take care Sir!!


12 posted on 10/21/2010 5:05:15 PM PDT by Benchim
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