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Former FSU football player may be caned in Singapore for overstaying visa
AP ^ | October 21, 2010

Posted on 10/21/2010 8:11:25 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

SINGAPORE (AP) -- A former Florida State University football player may become the first American in 16 years to be caned in Singapore after he overstayed his visa, his lawyer said Thursday.

Kamari Charlton, who was a reserve tight end for Florida State from 1992 to 1996, was arrested Sept. 1 when he attempted to leave the city-state 169 days after his 90-day social visit pass expired, attorney M. Ravi said.

Charlton, who was born in the Bahamas and owns a construction company there, was in Singapore while his wife received medical care for pregnancy complications, Ravi said. It was not clear why Charlton and his wife chose Singapore for medical treatment.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: caning; collegefootball; football; fsu; singapore
And somewhere an ex-U.Miami TE might be 'noled.
1 posted on 10/21/2010 8:11:32 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hurricaning.


2 posted on 10/21/2010 8:14:51 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: ConservativeStatement

....and the rest of the story?????


3 posted on 10/21/2010 8:15:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Lol! I’m a huge Cane fan!


4 posted on 10/21/2010 8:17:41 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Maybe the cane will go ‘Wide Right.’


5 posted on 10/21/2010 8:18:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers leading the ALCS 3 games to 2)
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To: elpadre

Barney Frank has volunteered to do the caning.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 8:21:59 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Don’t cane me bro!”


7 posted on 10/21/2010 8:22:44 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: RexBeach

maybe we should cane those that overstay their visas here.


8 posted on 10/21/2010 8:24:43 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

here they get flight lessons and free tuition.


9 posted on 10/21/2010 8:25:50 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: ConservativeStatement

What? No “path to citizenship?”


10 posted on 10/21/2010 8:27:47 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Just about what I would expect from a Criminole!


11 posted on 10/21/2010 8:28:41 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: CJ Wolf

I like this idea better, if I may: Have them work as house staff for Oprah for a week.

They won’t be back.


12 posted on 10/21/2010 8:29:14 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: ConservativeStatement

90-day visa plus 169 days extra is more than enough time for his wife to have a baby, if necessary.

Perhaps he was there working construction illegally?


13 posted on 10/21/2010 8:29:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love the smell of napalm in November. Cue the Wagner music ...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Richard Pryor in one of his original funny skits had a line in there: ‘Member next time los negroes.....bet this boy will remember next time his visa expires!


14 posted on 10/21/2010 8:40:00 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well, the SCOTUS looks to foreign laws, so we could use that one.....................


15 posted on 10/21/2010 8:41:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE MEGHAN MCCAIN A BOX OF KRISPY KREMES SO SHE'LL SHUT THE HELL UP?!)
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To: CJ Wolf
maybe we should cane those that overstay their visas here.

And throw in a water boarding for good measure.

16 posted on 10/21/2010 8:51:07 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Maybe we should start caning illegals here:

YES WE CANE!


17 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:10 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: RexBeach
Caning is a real pain in the a$$!

In a former life, I worked with a Singaporean engineer who told me all about it.

Long story short about caning is that it usually takes 4-5 days before you can $hit properly and 4-5 weeks before you can sit properly.

When the American kid vandal got caned at that time, they surveyed the American community about it. Roughly one-third thought the penalty was too harsh. Another third thought it appropriate. The final third thought it was such a good idea that it should be introduced to the United States.

18 posted on 10/21/2010 8:59:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

We need to import caning for illegals and people who over stayed their visas.


19 posted on 10/21/2010 9:02:22 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: ConservativeStatement

His crime was staying in the country too long. He tries to correct that mistake by leaving the country... and they prevent him from leaving so they can cane him.

Seems a bit ludicrous to me.


20 posted on 10/21/2010 9:21:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ConservativeStatement
Earlier this year, Oliver Fricker of Switzerland was sentenced to five months in jail and three cane strokes for breaking into a train depot with an accomplice and spray painting subway cars.

Now I really wish we could do that here, I hate graffiti.

21 posted on 10/21/2010 9:25:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers leading the ALCS 3 games to 2)
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To: Tax-chick

Having been in Singapore several times, never needed a Visa from USA.


22 posted on 10/21/2010 9:25:50 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: dfwgator

bttt


23 posted on 10/21/2010 9:26:57 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: dusttoyou
Having been in Singapore several times, never needed a Visa from USA.

You need a visa from Singapore.

24 posted on 10/21/2010 9:29:07 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: dusttoyou

ENTRY / EXIT REQUIREMENTS: A valid passport is required. Travelers to the region should note that Singapore and some neighboring countries do not allow U.S. citizens to enter with fewer than six months of validity remaining on their passport. U.S. citizens do not need a visa if their visit is for business or social purposes, and their stay is for 90 days or less. Specific information about entry requirements for Singapore may be obtained from the Embassy of the Republic of Singapore at 3501 International Place NW, Washington, DC 20008, tel. (202) 537-3100. Visit the Embassy of Singapore’s website for the most current visa information.


25 posted on 10/21/2010 9:30:36 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Well, before 9/11 I never needed a Visa. Haven’t been back in a while, maybe that has changed.


26 posted on 10/21/2010 9:31:44 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: Boogieman
His crime was staying in the country too long. He tries to correct that mistake by leaving the country... and they prevent him from leaving so they can cane him. Seems a bit ludicrous to me.

What is ludicrous? That they enforce their visa requirements?

27 posted on 10/21/2010 9:33:29 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Sure reads like I was right.

Beautiful and welcoming city, and I do not normally like big cities. Very expensive to live there.


28 posted on 10/21/2010 9:37:36 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: Boogieman; ConservativeStatement
His crime was staying in the country too long. He tries to correct that mistake by leaving the country... and they prevent him from leaving so they can cane him. Seems a bit ludicrous to me.

His crime was not paying the taxes on time. He tries to correct that mistake by writing a check ...and the prevent him from paying it so they can fine him.

/s

I always say people should know and respect the laws of the nations they go to. When I was in the US I never even got a parkng ticket. When I am in Dubai I am very cognizant of their laws on debt and presence of debtors jails. When I am in Mauritius I know what the penalties on having drugs are. When in Singapore I know better than to litter. Some countries have laws that may seem draconian, but when in Rome ....! I do feel for him, because when they say 'caning' they mean a whipping with a thin flexible stick that cuts skin VERY easily. However, when travelling one needs to be very cognizant of local laws. I've seen silly tourists do things, particularly in Asia, that are just dumb. Just because smoking weed, or tossing used chewing gum, or graffiti, or overstaying visas, is ok Stateside doesn't mean it is kosher in other places. He's fortunate he wasn't jailed

29 posted on 10/21/2010 9:41:15 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I doubt he'll actually be caned - probably just fined and deported. Notice that it was his lawyer who made the caning reference, no doubt to gin up American media attention. Singapore's laws may seem harsh, but they are actually pretty good at identifying the real bad guys before doling out punishment - unlike the USA these days.
30 posted on 10/21/2010 9:51:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: spetznaz

” His crime was not paying the taxes on time. He tries to correct that mistake by writing a check ...and the prevent him from paying it so they can fine him.

/s “

Except, in most cases, if you voluntary self-correct your failure to pay taxes before the Revenuers come after you, they’re a lot more willing to be lenient in the punishment they can inflict on you. Also, they wouldn’t prevent you from paying the amount due even if they assessed an additional fine. Since when did a tax collector refuse to accept money from anyone?

It just seems that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime in this case. If his crime was staying in country, the obvious corrective action is to make him leave the country, which is what he was trying to do, before they prevented him. If we catch an illegal at the border who is trying to self-deport back to Mexico, should we take him to jail until we can deport him or just let him go?


31 posted on 10/21/2010 10:03:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeeSac

“What is ludicrous? That they enforce their visa requirements?”

No, it just seems ludicrous that when he tried to comply with the visa requirements, they decided that wasn’t good enough, and that a good caning was in order.


32 posted on 10/21/2010 10:11:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
No, it just seems ludicrous that when he tried to comply with the visa requirements, they decided that wasn’t good enough, and that a good caning was in order.

He didn't try to comply. He was 169 days over his visa expiration.

33 posted on 10/21/2010 10:29:54 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

“He didn’t try to comply. He was 169 days over his visa expiration.”

The other way of looking at it is he tried to comply, but was 169 days tardy :P


34 posted on 10/21/2010 10:53:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Constitution Day
Just about what I would expect from a Criminole!

Uh .. That would be FSU!

35 posted on 10/21/2010 10:56:39 AM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeeSac
You need a visa from Singapore

They don't take MasterCard?

36 posted on 10/21/2010 10:58:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers leading the ALCS 3 games to 2)
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To: plinyelder

Uh ..

I know. The FSU player stayed 169 DAYS past his visa’s expiration. That is a criminal offense there. Hence: Criminole.


37 posted on 10/21/2010 11:01:32 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Boogieman; ConservativeStatement
His crime was staying in the country too long. He tries to correct that mistake by leaving the country... and they prevent him from leaving so they can cane him. Seems a bit ludicrous to me.

His crime was not paying the taxes on time. He tries to correct that mistake by writing a check ...and the prevent him from paying it so they can fine him.

/s

I always say people should know and respect the laws of the nations they go to. When I was in the US I never even got a parkng ticket. When I am in Dubai I am very cognizant of their laws on debt and presence of debtors jails. When I am in Mauritius I know what the penalties on having drugs are. When in Singapore I know better than to litter. Some countries have laws that may seem draconian, but when in Rome ....! I do feel for him, because when they say 'caning' they mean a whipping with a thin flexible stick that cuts skin VERY easily. However, when travelling one needs to be very cognizant of local laws. I've seen silly tourists do things, particularly in Asia, that are just dumb. Just because smoking weed, or tossing used chewing gum, or graffiti, or overstaying visas, is ok Stateside doesn't mean it is kosher in other places. He's fortunate he wasn't jailed

38 posted on 10/21/2010 11:00:44 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Boogieman; ConservativeStatement

Apologies for the double post. Stay blessed


39 posted on 10/21/2010 11:12:04 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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