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Fannie and Freddie may need another $215 billion
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fannie-and-Freddie-may-need-rb-2323937639.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode= ^

Posted on 10/21/2010 12:00:17 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Fannie Mae (OTC BB:FNMA.OB - News) and Freddie Mac (OTC BB:FMCC.OB - News) may need as much as $215 billion in additional capital from the Treasury through 2013 to offset losses and maintain a positive net worth, their federal regulator said on Thursday.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, whose programs fund the lion's share of all new home loans, are at the center of debate as Congress sets to overhaul a U.S. mortgage finance system that contributed to the worst housing crisis since the 1930s.

The cumulative capital needs of the two housing finance giants, which were seized by the government in late 2008, will likely fall between $221 billion and $363 billion through 2013, the Federal Housing Finance Agency estimated.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; braking; fanniemae; freddiemac; massachusetts; oldnews; seanbielat

1 posted on 10/21/2010 12:00:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

say...anybody know where all that money is going?


2 posted on 10/21/2010 12:04:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (defeat islam.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Fannie and Freddie need to be removed from the Federal budget.


3 posted on 10/21/2010 12:11:56 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Red in Blue PA
2004(!) Congressional Hearings on Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac Were Opposed by Lib Dems To Protect the Cheats at Fannie and Freddie And Directly Led to the Housing Meltdown at the Core of our Economic Problems. The GOP tried to address this well before the crisis but the Lib Dems did not permit it.

This alone should get all of these Dems fired shortly.

4 posted on 10/21/2010 12:13:52 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
No! What Fannie and Freddie needs is to be cut off. Let them fail. Let the Free Market do it's flipping job.

Only a complete and utter moron would continue to believe putting more money into this situation, will help it.


5 posted on 10/21/2010 12:15:38 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Not until there is a FULL AUDIT.

And they get off the Gov. tit.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 12:19:36 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Recall that on CHRISTMAS EVE 2009, Obama sneakily signed an executive order removing the liability cap congress put on the Fannie/Freddie bailout, potentially exposing taxpayers to unlimited losses. That cap had been set at $400,000,000,000. Yes, that was 400 BILLION. Looks like the fraud of Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, and Franklin Raines will cost US taxpayers much more than that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/24/AR2009122401588.html

7 posted on 10/21/2010 12:22:05 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Related posts

Fannie, Freddie bailout could double, regulator says

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2611756/posts

Regulator for Fannie Set to Get Litigious

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2611743/posts


8 posted on 10/21/2010 12:23:35 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Red in Blue PA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608592/posts

VIDEO OF ANDREW CUOMO STARTING THE HOUSING MELT DOWN!
Hot Air ^ | 10/12/2008 | HotAir

CUOMO: To take a greater risk on these mortgages, yes. To give families mortgages that they would not have given otherwise, yes. Q: [unintellible] … that they would not have given the loans at all? CUOMO: They would not have qualified but for this affirmative action on the part of the bank, yes. Q: Are minorities represented in that low and moderate income group? CUOMO: It is by income, and is it also by minorities? Yes. CUOMO: With the 2.1 billion, lending that amount in mortgages — which will be a higher risk, and I’m sure there will be a higher default rate on those mortgages than on the rest of the portfolio …


9 posted on 10/21/2010 12:24:35 PM PDT by maggief
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To: the invisib1e hand

To the banks all except the bonus’s and expenses those criminals at fannie/freddie get the rest goes to the banks they unload all those crap mortgages on fannie/freddie public entities and when the people default we the taxpayers pick up the tab. That tab by the way was $6.3 trillion already last February when obama left it out of the budget it has surely grown by now. We could quite literally be on the hook for trillions!

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/revised-fhfa-forecast-taxpayers-fund-363-billion-gse-losses-2013

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aqifb.wX_npo

And fannie/freddie they are also involved in the foreclosure fraud mess

http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/whos-who-in-the-foreclosure-scandal-a-primer-on-the-players


10 posted on 10/21/2010 12:31:45 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Red in Blue PA
This is a very good article on the time bomb that is ticking in the US mortgage market.

http://www.realestatechannel.com/us-markets/residential-real-estate-1/real-estate-news-fha-mortgages-mortgage-backed-securities-mbs-federal-housing-administration-fha-department-of-veterans-affairs-va-congress-home-loans-keith-jurow-2969.php

11 posted on 10/21/2010 12:33:44 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: FromLori

I’m just wondering how all that money might be affecting the midterm elections.


12 posted on 10/21/2010 12:35:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (defeat islam.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Well it will probably keep the banks donations to obama rolling in knowing they can shovel all that toxic waste on to the backs of taxpayers must be a big relief and well worth the investments they’ve made in him.


13 posted on 10/21/2010 12:43:47 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And to think that on top of this they mortgages they hold may be worthless for any number of reasons. The latest being that they may not hold the notes to many of them. The taxpayer is paying for an empty box.

Fannie And Freddie HAVE NO NOTES EITHER?

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=169840

FHFA: Foreclosuregate And Scams: It’s (Maybe) 1/2 Over

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=169867


14 posted on 10/21/2010 12:54:40 PM PDT by Revel
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To: the invisib1e hand

“I’m just wondering how all that money might be affecting the midterm elections.”

It will not due much to the election because the media whores are not touching this...


15 posted on 10/21/2010 12:56:20 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: blueyon
It will not due much to the election because the media whores are not touching this...

Is that like the tree never falling because nobody heard it?

16 posted on 10/21/2010 1:01:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (defeat islam.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Sure, why not.


17 posted on 10/21/2010 1:10:19 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone
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To: Red in Blue PA

I only need 1 billion so pay me first.


18 posted on 10/21/2010 1:14:04 PM PDT by trustandobey (GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Is that like the tree never falling because nobody heard it?”

Haha..that’s a good one!


19 posted on 10/21/2010 1:26:25 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: blueyon

Oh h*$( NOOOOOO - someone put some handcuffs on Fannie and Freddie and throw their overstuffed money as$#s in jail. ENOUGH ALREADY.


20 posted on 10/21/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Red in Blue PA

And first thing they’ll do is give MILLIONS to liberal Democrat Politicians who support them.

Pay your taxes America - the ruling class needs the money. :)


21 posted on 10/21/2010 1:45:53 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bwahney’s legacy.


22 posted on 10/21/2010 2:31:03 PM PDT by BAW ("We can absorb a terrorist attack." - Pres Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Gabrial

23 posted on 10/21/2010 2:53:15 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Red in Blue PA
If the Republicrats think they can continue to give in to the rat`s demands for more of OUR tax dollars to go into that monetary black-hole, while counting on the support of conservatives, they`re flipping mental cases. These two are main figures in the housing bubble collapse,it needs to be defunded and the Community Reinvestment Act along with it. If they don`t have the stones for this,how the hell can we trust them to repeal Obama Care?
24 posted on 10/21/2010 9:13:12 PM PDT by nomad
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To: lurk

That is what happened when Fannie was “spun out” as a “government sponsored enterprise” in the late 60’s: LBJ was getting Fannie off the Treasury’s balance sheet.

Because Congress thought that Fannie needed “competition,” they created a new GSE, Freddie Mac, to compete with Fannie Mae, also as a GSE.

There is no way to spin these back out as a GSE or private or semi-private business now. They’d fail in the first week without the explicit backing of the US Treasury, and mortgage rates would quickly climb and choke off home financing in the US.

What we’re left with now is a situation that many were warning of throughout the late 90’s: that the AAA rating on Fannie/Freddie MBS was due to the “implicit guarantee by the US Treasury.” Well, when the Chinese called the US on this guarantee, Hank Paulson crapped a brick and made the guarantee explicit on the $300+ billion of MBS paper that the BOC held at that time. (the BOC later sold their paper).

Shortly thereafter, Freddie/Fanne got pulled into the government.

What should and needs to happen now is pretty simple: pick the best one of the two, put the other one out of our misery and end the duplication of efforts. Next, auditors need to start crawling through all the paperwork they have and initiate put-back proceedings onto the banks that sold Fannie/Freddie compromised or fraudulent paper. This is the fastest way to minimize the cost to the US taxpayer.

Oh, and one more thing: When the put-backs cause one or more of the “Too Big To Fail” banks to, you know, fail? Don’t bail them out. Let them go down in flames.


25 posted on 10/21/2010 10:22:20 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Red in Blue PA
will likely fall between $221 billion and $363 billion through 2013

Am I the only one that thinks the final figure will be even more than they're estimating?
26 posted on 10/22/2010 1:15:55 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

From Wikipedia, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo - Early life, education and career Andrew Cuomo was born in Queens, New York, the elder son of Mario Cuomo, the first Italian American to be elected Governor of New York and his Sephardic Jewish wife Matilda Raffa, daughter of Charlie Raffa (See Jewish Genealogy in Sicily at http://www.italian-family-history.com/jewish/_Sicilia.html). He is the older brother of ABC News journalist Chris Cuomo.

During the administration of former New York City Mayor David Dinkins, Cuomo served as Chairman of the New York City Homeless Commission, which was charged with developing policies to address the homeless issue in the city and to develop more housing options.

Cuomo, as HUD Secretary holding a press conference with then Treasury Secretary Larry SummersAndrew Cuomo was appointed to the Department of Housing and Urban Development as Assistant Secretary in 1993, as a member of President Bill Clinton’s administration. After the departure of Secretary Henry Cisneros at the end of Clinton’s first term under the cloud of an FBI investigation, Cuomo succeeded him as HUD Secretary in January 1997 after being unanimously confirmed by the Senate, serving until 2001 when Clinton’s administration ended. In 1998, Cuomo’s lauded work in the department garnered speculation that he could challenge Senator Al D’Amato but he ultimately declined, saying that he had more things to revamp in the Department. Instead, Congressman Charles Schumer won the Democratic nomination and ultimately defeated D’Amato. Cuomo was also mentioned as a candidate for U.S. Senator in 2000 but deferred to First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.

During Cuomo’s tenure as HUD Secretary, he called for an increase in home ownership.[4] He also pushed government-sponsored lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy more home loans issued to poor homeowners, in an attempt to end discrimination against minorities.[5] Some believe that this helped lead to the current subprime mortgage crisis.[4][5][6] Edward J. Pinto, former chief credit officer at Fannie Mae, said “they should have known the risks were large. Cuomo was pushing mortgage bankers to make loans and basically saying you have to offer a loan to everybody.”[4] But others disagree with the assesment that Cuomo caused the crisis. Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, said Cuomo “was a contributor in terms of him being a cheerleader, but I don’t think we can pin too much blame on him.”[4]

In other words, apparently this man Andrew Cuomo caused the entire financial crisis/great depression this country is facing now.


27 posted on 10/23/2010 6:12:32 AM PDT by TOM QUIN BBC (YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME...)
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