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US presidential nuclear codes 'lost for months' [During Clinton administration]
BBC ^ | 2010-10-21 | Unattributed

Posted on 10/22/2010 12:54:55 PM PDT by justlurking

The codes used by the president to launch a nuclear strike were mislaid for months during the Clinton administration, the former highest-ranking US officer has said.

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Gen Shelton said the incident had taken place "around the year 2000".

Under the procedures, an official was sent every month to check the codes, and that they were replaced every four months with new codes.

According to Gen Shelton's book, Without Hesitation, an official had gone to check one month and been told by the aide that the codes were on the president's person but that he was in an important meeting and could not be disturbed.

A different official went to do the same check a month later and was told a similar story. When it came time to change the codes, an aide admitted they had been missing for months.

Gen Shelton said it was apparent that the president had not had the codes and that he had been unaware that an aide had lost them.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: billclinton; bjclinton; clinton; codes; generalshelton; nuclear; nuclearcode; nuclearcodes; shelton; withouthesitation

1 posted on 10/22/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking

for months?

No way.


2 posted on 10/22/2010 12:56:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: justlurking

They used to shoot people for stuff like this.


3 posted on 10/22/2010 12:57:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: justlurking

Maybe they were in Sandy Berger’s socks.


4 posted on 10/22/2010 12:57:14 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: justlurking

Anybody below POTUS: General Court Martial/dismissal/dishonorable discharge and major jail time.

Just beyond words...

Colonel, USAFR


5 posted on 10/22/2010 12:57:25 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: justlurking

I’ll bet he never forgot Monica’s phone number.


6 posted on 10/22/2010 12:58:06 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: justlurking

And did any of those months coincide with the months that Monica Lewinsky was schlonging down on Clinton??


7 posted on 10/22/2010 12:58:19 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: justlurking

Some day among Monica Lewinsky’s belongings they will find the Code Sheet, with the following handwritten on the back.

“Wednesday-4pm. Back door, bring Pizza, no panties.”


8 posted on 10/22/2010 12:58:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: justlurking

Well, that could never happen these days. No sir.

Obama has given them to Joe Biden for safekeeping.


9 posted on 10/22/2010 12:59:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: shankbear
No, this is long after the Oval Office Lewiksnys.

2000 is more the time frame when he mishandling the fight against Islamic terrorists.

10 posted on 10/22/2010 1:00:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: justlurking

This pretty much exemplifies the attitude of your basic democrat towards national security. We’re all damned lucky to still be here, after the succession of clowns we’ve had in the White House.


11 posted on 10/22/2010 1:00:09 PM PDT by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: BenLurkin

If the secret service had retraced willie clinton’s steps, they woulda found it under the desk.


12 posted on 10/22/2010 1:00:20 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Check6

13 posted on 10/22/2010 1:02:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: All

BOOK: WITHOUT HESITATION
http://www.amazon.com/Without-Hesitation-Odyssey-American-Warrior/dp/0312599056


14 posted on 10/22/2010 1:05:03 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: justlurking

Simply stunning. I consider this Treason. This punk, who wanted to buy him or herself some time, put the entire country in danger. The US essentially was nucleared disarmed without those codes.


15 posted on 10/22/2010 1:07:01 PM PDT by facedodge (Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~Friedman)
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To: All

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/21/shelton.clinton.nuclear.codes/?hpt=T2

“Nuclear launch card was missing for months, new book says”
From Dugald McConnell and Brian Todd, CNN
October 22, 2010 8:51 a.m. EDT

SNIPPET: “(CNN) — A former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says in a new book that while Bill Clinton was in the White House, a key component of the president’s nuclear launch protocol went missing.

“The codes were actually missing for months. This is a big deal,” says Gen. Hugh Shelton. “We dodged a silver bullet.””


16 posted on 10/22/2010 1:07:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: BenLurkin
No, this is long after the Oval Office Lewiksnys.

I still think the Secret Service should have a look in Bill's humidor. He sure didn't keep his cigars there.

17 posted on 10/22/2010 1:12:24 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Cindy; All
Thanks, Cindy. There is more information at the end this article:

Shelton said the president was given new codes within minutes when the previous codes could not be found. He said the procedures have been changed since then so that the Pentagon aide who carries out the monthly check is required to wait at the White House until he or she can visually confirm the codes are in the president's possession or an aide who is with him.

18 posted on 10/22/2010 1:17:53 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

He should be impeached for letting this happen on his watch...


19 posted on 10/22/2010 1:21:26 PM PDT by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: samtheman

they were somewhere in the piles on Sandy Burglar’s messy desk that Clinton thought was so amusing

great, the nation’s security was in the farcically incompetent hands of Sandy Burglar and Bill Clinton while the nuclear codes were not only missing but the scumbags covered it up for as long as possible — better to have the USA immobilized in a nuclear crisis than to admit their incompetence to the DoD, huh?


20 posted on 10/22/2010 1:27:04 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; dervish; ...

Thanks justlurking. He probably sold ‘em to Russia or China to raise money for Gore’s election bid.


21 posted on 10/22/2010 1:32:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: justlurking

“US presidential nuclear codes ‘lost for months’ [During Clinton administration]”

Maybe the POTUS accidentally dropped the codes in Monica’s hand bag while cleaning up.


22 posted on 10/22/2010 1:36:01 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: justlurking

All a foreign agency would have to do is get somebody around the President, help him lose the codes, report back that we were DISARMED and we’d be screwed?

We’re putting 330 million lives in the hands of an individual who would not be able to get a SECRET level security clearance as and E-1 in the military?


23 posted on 10/22/2010 1:36:57 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: justlurking
Wonder if it ever occurred to Clinton that Lewinski might have been a foreign agent who took the codes?
24 posted on 10/22/2010 1:38:25 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: justlurking

Clinton always relied on his public’s adoration of him to get away with crimes, under that guise that he was a “lovable rogue.” But he never did anything free of charge, in my opinion, even “losing” things.

Recall that, during the horrendous firestorm outside of the Sandia Labs in NM, when two highly classified laptops were missing for days. Just long enough for all the data to be transferred to other computers, then placed behind a couple of filing cabinets to be found, well after the whole area had been completely scoured without a trace of the laptops. And, one seems to recall that a scientist of Chinese ethnicity was ID’d and detained for prosecution, who worked at Sandia.

He was so in bed with China his entire administration, it wasn’t hard to imagine the fate of the laptops. If not for public outrage, the entire port of Long Beach would be in COSCO today.

Money. Clinton. China.


25 posted on 10/22/2010 1:51:37 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Spok
I’ll bet he never forgot Monica’s phone number.

He didn't have to memorize the number. The secret service were put in charge of either bringing her to him, or dialing her number when he needed some phone-sex.
26 posted on 10/22/2010 1:56:49 PM PDT by adorno
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To: justlurking

All matter that has ever existed, still exists today.

Now, where are the damn things? Why no investigation to determine where they are.... who has them?


27 posted on 10/22/2010 1:59:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: justlurking

“He said the procedures have been changed since then so that the Pentagon aide who carries out the monthly check”

WHY is there a friggin’ MONTH in between these checks? Couldn’t the person carrying the “football” check them daily an phone it in to the Pentagon?


28 posted on 10/22/2010 2:02:01 PM PDT by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling "Allah Snackbar")
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To: justlurking

They weren’t lost. They were in the same place as the Rose Law Firm billing records. Just laying around somewhere so the chicoms could “find” them.


29 posted on 10/22/2010 2:04:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Never again will I hold my nose and vote for a rino.)
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To: All

This was reported—shock of shocks—on the ABC nightly news a few days ago. They also said it happened once before—in the Carter White House. Isn’t that just special!


30 posted on 10/22/2010 2:33:55 PM PDT by milagro
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To: justlurking

Let’s pretend this happened under the Bush Administration!
Imagine the Hellacious Outcry that would erupt!
But because it was Clintoon, a Demorat, all we hear are crickets chirping!
Wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that Obama Hussein hasn’t given his to The Grand IMAM as one more outreach gesture to HIS Fellow Muslim Brethren!


31 posted on 10/22/2010 2:47:06 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: DPMD

I think your explanation is just about right. Remember how they ‘found’ Vince Foster’s suicide note, tore up in his brief case? It took them several days to ‘find’ it. No one could see torn up pieces of paper in his briefcase for several days? Right.


32 posted on 10/22/2010 2:52:57 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: facedodge
The US essentially was nucleared disarmed without those codes.

Not quite. It doesn't disarm the boomer subs, just the surface based weapons.

33 posted on 10/22/2010 5:16:20 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: justlurking

Well, someone answer me this. If this story is true, why would Gen. Shelton go and endorse Hillary in 2008?


34 posted on 10/23/2010 7:09:51 PM PDT by vmpolesov
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To: thulldud
Those skippers in the our subs cannot launch on their own without orders. I'm sure the codes for them was in that brief case also.

Since they were missing and only the aide knew it there would have been some undetermined delay of time and action between the president knowing they were lost and going to an alternate or backup course of action what ever that would be,that is, if there is one.

It is the threat of instant retaliation and annihilation that is the great deterrent factor.

If some radical nut case would have had this knowledge and attacked, what could be happening right now is that those of us that were left would be roving packs of animals preying on each other in the dark ages.

35 posted on 11/04/2010 11:51:41 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: mississippi red-neck
I'm sure the codes for them was in that brief case also.

Sub nukes aren't on that system, it is useless for them. By the time the subs could be summoned up to a depth where they could receive the codes, the transmitters would be glass parking lots.

It happens that the skipper of a boomer does not launch by himself — other officers must assist to activate the warheads. And they do have orders to cover the situation in which the USA has been nuked and all other retaliatory systems are down. THAT is what keeps the whackos from taking a shot at us.

Only way to neutralize the lurking threat of the submarine fleet is to catch them when they leave port and follow them everywhere they go, so as to be ready to give them a torpedo enema if they open the missile tubes. The fact is, nobody has been able to do this to us, while our subs HAVE done it to those of rival forces.

36 posted on 11/05/2010 3:50:04 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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