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WikiLeaks: At Least 100,000 Iraqis Reportedly Killed During War
ABC News ^ | RUSSELL GOLDMAN and LUIS MARTINEZ

Posted on 10/22/2010 3:43:13 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

In what is being described as the largest release of secret U.S. military documents ever, the whistle-blowing web site WikiLeaks has released a trove of classified reports about the war in Iraq, including a secret U.S. government tally that puts the Iraqi death toll between 109,000 and 285,000, according to news sources that received advanced copies of the documents.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: codepink; duplicate; ellsberg; globalexchange; lancet; lancetsurvey; medeabenjamin; nswbc; occupationwatch; pentagonpapers2; thelancet; truthtellingproject; vips; wikileaks
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1 posted on 10/22/2010 3:43:17 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

this will come as a disappointment to the libs who constantly claimed at least 600K iraqi’s were killed...


2 posted on 10/22/2010 3:45:58 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Remember way back when things like this leak would have been blamed on the CIC?


3 posted on 10/22/2010 3:49:14 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: God luvs America

That was the Lancet Survey, but there are always going to be casualties in war in countries...it is an unavoidable part of the conflict. The problem is there isn’t any context.


4 posted on 10/22/2010 3:50:21 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Spok

I bet ya deep down Obama likes it.


5 posted on 10/22/2010 3:51:23 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

When will people in the media ask why Prine AL Waleed, the Saudi King’s nephew, is a major shareholder in Disney/ABC News, TW/CNN, News Corp/Fox News - multibillion deals with GE/CNBC/MSNBC/NBC, helped Viacom/CBS in a variety of international TV deals and helped Bloomberg get access to Islamic markets?

In other words - all 6 TV networks that own all the Tv channels have MAJOR Saudi influence. Nice how ABC News/Disney will portray American troops as “baby killers” for their Saudi overlords.

Keep watching TV sheeple - the elites/Dems/Saudis are banking on it. You are helping them by watching.


6 posted on 10/22/2010 3:53:49 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

When will people in the media ask why Prine AL Waleed, the Saudi King’s nephew, is a major shareholder in Disney/ABC News, TW/CNN, News Corp/Fox News - multibillion deals with GE/CNBC/MSNBC/NBC, helped Viacom/CBS in a variety of international TV deals and helped Bloomberg get access to Islamic markets?

In other words - all 6 TV networks that own all the Tv channels have MAJOR Saudi influence. Nice how ABC News/Disney will portray American troops as “baby killers” for their Saudi overlords.

Keep watching TV sheeple - the elites/Dems/Saudis are banking on it. You are helping them by watching.


7 posted on 10/22/2010 3:53:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: God luvs America
I remember some of them saying 2 million........

:}

8 posted on 10/22/2010 3:55:34 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November........)
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To: Spok

The Counter Intelligence Corps...yeah...but this happens to be the work of a disgruntled homosexual, Bradley Manning, who hated DADT...they reported he was considering a sex change...he’s clearly guilty of treason.


9 posted on 10/22/2010 3:56:27 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Frantzie
Ending the Saudi Double Game
10 posted on 10/22/2010 4:00:02 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
People, especially the press, conveniently forget that at the end of Desert Storm Saddam Hussein signed an armistice, with over forty nations signing too as our allies. He agreed to a cessation of hostilities.

Violation of an armistice agreement is grounds for restarting the war. We didn't start a war later without provocation — we simply took up fighting where we had left off to stop a tyrant.

Saddam violated that armistice just 24-hours after signing it. Over more than a decade, he shot at our aircraft, he murdered and persecuted his own people, and he pursued the acquisition of WMD (which is now in the possession of Syria).

The horrifying part of all this - Bill Clinton was too much of a weenie to decisively move against Saddam for violating the armistice and stop the madness in Iraq. It was left to GWB.

11 posted on 10/22/2010 4:02:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

If this were truly a national security issue, why didn’t the Pentagon just shut down WikiLeaks?


12 posted on 10/22/2010 4:18:15 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: God luvs America

Amd most of the Iraqi civilians were killed by AQ and Sadam loyalists.


13 posted on 10/22/2010 4:19:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Frantzie

I dislike the media as much as anyone, but this is not just an ABC thing. Someone should have removed WikiLeaks “with prejudice” a long time ago.


14 posted on 10/22/2010 4:21:41 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I hope this idiot has his insurance paid up. I know a lot of front line guys wont be too happy with him. We called this treason when I was growing up.


15 posted on 10/22/2010 4:33:58 PM PDT by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: TommyDale

They are all the same people.


16 posted on 10/22/2010 4:35:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Spok

Excellent point. Obama’s administration are unprofessional idiots.

This is not a good leak it will anger our enemies even further.


17 posted on 10/22/2010 4:37:36 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: TommyDale

There is a national security implication...like the wikileaks regarding Afghanistan...they give the names of people that have collaborated with the U.S. and helped our forces...I’ll get you an answer as to why they aren’t shutting them down...for one they aren’t located in the U.S....I think it is out of Britain, but I’m unclear as to ‘why’ exactly...


18 posted on 10/22/2010 4:38:24 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Frantzie

I agree. Something is wrong here though. If it were really a security issue it would not have been allowed to be leaked. Instead, advance notice was given that these leaks would happen.


19 posted on 10/22/2010 4:41:09 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: halfright

It really pisses me off...this is why we need to scrap DADT and go back to the DoD directive banning them from the military...or more like during WWII when homosexuality was a mental illiness...the guy is a flaming queer and that’s his sick life....he has no business in our military and damn right, let the frontline soldiers give this guy a blanket party...for starters...or let him go over to the enemy and see how the Jihadists and see how he likes it. I’d like a shot at this guy myself!


20 posted on 10/22/2010 4:42:45 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: TommyDale

I have been listening to Mark Levin. He said to look at the timing of this and that THIS IS THE OCTOBER SURPRISE SO THE VOTERS WILL THINK OF BUSH AND CHENEY AND NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN.


21 posted on 10/22/2010 4:44:18 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Who needs an enemy when we have Barack Obama?)
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To: God luvs America

Either figure is less than the one to three million that Saddam killed.


22 posted on 10/22/2010 4:45:17 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: TommyDale
"We deplore WikiLeaks for inducing individuals to break the law, leak classified documents and then cavalierly share that secret information with the world, including our enemies," the Pentagon said in a statement. "We know terrorist organizations have been mining the leaked Afghan documents for information to use against us and this Iraq leak is more than four times as large. By disclosing such sensitive information, WikiLeaks continues to put at risk the lives of our troops, their coalition partners and those Iraqis and Afghans working with us. The only responsible course of action for WikiLeaks at this point is to return the stolen material and expunge it from their websites as soon as possible."
23 posted on 10/22/2010 4:45:30 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I think the Pentagon and/or the CIA WANTED this leaked. They could have taken measures long ago.


24 posted on 10/22/2010 4:47:49 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: God luvs America

Just in time for elections, more Bush derangement syndrome.


25 posted on 10/22/2010 4:49:27 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
According to the Arab news outlet Al Jazeera Isn't that where ABC got this from? Al Jazeera, they got it first from Wikileaks then ABC got it from Al Jazeera?
26 posted on 10/22/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by ColdOne (GOP. Gutless Old Politicians :^))...../When Obama fails America Wins!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

And the problem with this is?


27 posted on 10/22/2010 4:51:19 PM PDT by NCBraveheart
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Misinformation. Don’t believe everything they say.


28 posted on 10/22/2010 4:51:35 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Spok
Remember way back when things like this leak would have been blamed on the CIC

Remember further back when such actions would have been called treason.........,

this Wiki SOB needs to be shot.

29 posted on 10/22/2010 4:54:06 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Who leaked the documents this time? Was it the same guy as before?


30 posted on 10/22/2010 4:59:06 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Bottom line? People will die...all part of O’s agenda.


31 posted on 10/22/2010 5:00:46 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Levin is likely right. It was released so it would dominate the Sunday talk shows. And it will be the first story on Monday morning blab shows.


32 posted on 10/22/2010 5:03:20 PM PDT by rintense
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I don’t think people care that much in these economic times.
If this is the surprise it won’t do that much.


33 posted on 10/22/2010 5:07:12 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: TommyDale

Wikileaks is not based in any one country from my understanding and the Pentagon....through the Justice Department doesn’t have any recourse...a lot of foreign nationals run the group...besides...do you think Obama’s Administration or Gates are going to pursue anything?


34 posted on 10/22/2010 5:07:45 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: ducttape45

I believe so...wikileaks doesn’t give up our sources.


35 posted on 10/22/2010 5:11:03 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: ducttape45

I believe so...wikileaks doesn’t give up our sources.


36 posted on 10/22/2010 5:14:16 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I hope it explains that most if not all of them were killed by Al-Qaeda.... Yeah the Radical Muslims killed other muslims.... Wonder what CAIR has to say about that?


37 posted on 10/22/2010 5:14:33 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama to America - resistance if futile, you will be assimilated.)
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To: TommyDale

this is Obama/ dems October surprise !

pretty lame and old news


38 posted on 10/22/2010 5:14:51 PM PDT by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Wikileaks
39 posted on 10/22/2010 5:15:56 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The CIA could have taken this weasel out any time they wanted.


40 posted on 10/22/2010 5:16:06 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I totally agree with you. People are losing homes, jobs, quality of life, health care, and no doubt relationships. It will be all about the economy in this election.


41 posted on 10/22/2010 5:16:41 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Who needs an enemy when we have Barack Obama?)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
There is a one bullet solution, for the owner of wikileaks.

Those who gave info, try them as traitors and hang them on cspan.

42 posted on 10/22/2010 5:17:24 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I read this and say: So what?

Soldiers, terrorists, collateral damage, sympathizers, Saddam troops?

This is really no information.

And it was war in a war torn country.

I dont really think that we should be there. Neither do I think we should be in Afganistan.

But war leaves casualties.


43 posted on 10/22/2010 5:24:19 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Try Dodd and Frank for robbery and treason.)
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To: SatinDoll

bookmark


44 posted on 10/22/2010 5:24:39 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Now days every news headline looks like it should be from the "Onion")
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Anybody notice this goob’s picture on Drudge looks like jackwagon Bill Maher?


45 posted on 10/22/2010 5:28:08 PM PDT by Realist (If you don't know where you are being led, you may not like where you end up!)
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To: ColdOne
"According to the Arab news outlet Al Jazeera Isn't that where ABC got this from? Al Jazeera, they got it first from Wikileaks then ABC got it from Al Jazeera?"

Wikileaks is "down for maintenance", and has been for some time.

Al Jazeera has to have had these documents for weeks to read through them (400,000 documents) and summarize them.

That means Al Jazeera got them before they will be published to Wikileaks, as the western press is probably on Wikileaks every day to see if the dump happened.

This was planned. Julian Assange wanted to shape and control the story before the document dump. We have already see the number of dead drop from 285,000 to 100,000 over the course of couple of hours.

What is important is this means Assange transferred the documents from himself to Al Jazeera without publishing them to Wikileaks. Wikileaks is Assange's legal fig leaf. They claim they are "the press", and are therefore protected in the U.S. by the Pentagon Papers case. But what happened here is someone knowingly transferred knowingly stolen, knowingly classified U.S. Government documents to a foreign press. I don't see how a courier gets press protection.

46 posted on 10/22/2010 5:33:32 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Realist

He has been accused of rape and molestation in Sweden...he just tries to claim the charges are a frame up.


47 posted on 10/22/2010 5:34:30 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan ("The liberal agenda is the liberal neurosis made manifest."--Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

AND ... It is a war ... bad stuff happens!

If WWII had been conducted by today’s goofy PC standards - the U.S. East coast would be speaking German and the U.S. West Coast would be speaking Japanese...


48 posted on 10/22/2010 5:35:43 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

That’s 100,000 we won’t have to kill next time......


49 posted on 10/22/2010 5:54:08 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US Government to Kill Commies. Now ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

It’s a war. A long war. People die. Frankly, given the amount of violence involved and the fact that we aren’t fighting a uniformed standing army, 100,000 isn’t all that many.


50 posted on 10/22/2010 6:00:16 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michelle Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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