Skip to comments.Issa: 'Not a chance' of Obama impeachment under GOP House (RINOs betraying us already?)
Posted on 10/23/2010 4:26:20 AM PDT by USALiberty
If Republicans take control of the House, there is "not a chance at this point" that they will try to impeach President Obama, a top Republican lawmaker said this week.
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who would helm the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee if the GOP wins on Election Day, said that his party will not try to bring impeachment charges simply because it disagrees with the president.
"Not a chance at this point. I dont see it happening," Issa said when asked if there is a chance of impeachment on Bloomberg's "Political Capital," which airs over the weekend.
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This is NOT what I am voting for! We must make it clear to the RINOs that impeachment is ON THE AGENDA, not just on the table.
With this I agree. However, if investigations of the GM Bankruptcy deal, or anything else, turns up high crimes or misdemeanors, then it's a different story.
Regardless, Issa has toned himself down recently and it's disappointing.
Unless you can get 67 senators to vote for a conviction, there’s no point in impeachment. Impeachment and no conviction would damage the Republican in 2012.
Issa doesn’t get it. Obama doesn’t deserve impeachment because the Republicans disagree with him. He deserves impeachment because he is destroying the country he took an oath to preserve. I don’t care if the oath was on a Koran - that was HIS choice, not ours. IMPEACH HIM!!!
Was it Issa that put a call into Rush this week?
You must have missed this being posted around midnight:
I never sleep.
You are so right. Vote Pelosi to teach Issa a lesson!
Issa is doing the right thing. Keep your head down. Keep your mouth shut. Win this battle, then go fight the war.
Agreed. We saw how useless impeachment without removal was when the GOP did it to Clinton. Unless there are 67 senators willing to vote for conviction, which translates to at least 70 GOP Senators or more, then there is 0 point to impeachment.
I'd rather a GOP Congress focus on defunding and repealing 0bamacare and reducing the size of government (yes I know both are pipe dreams) than going after 0bama directly since such an attack will fail.
Impeachment would be almost certainly an over-reach and backfire. Unfortunately while logic has its influence even in 2010, remember 53% of your fellowcitizens voted him in the first place so crticize and investigate but unless there is such evidence that the populace demands he be dumped, I say keep him on and let his incompetence and traitorous behavior top the Dhim ticket in 2012. In fact if R’s are smart, they might prop him up some, withholding results of investigations, which they then release in July 2012 when Zero is the nominee, lol. Do the MSM trick on Zero like MSM did on McCain.
and economy is #1, #2, #3 anyway. While i think the country is center-RIGHT, we will be judged first by the center on economy. If we can show competence there, then we can extend the necessary reforms in other areas, and the Indies will trust us.
Oh sure..I will let the dims keep the house..That’ll show em../S
That I think is more of a realistic possibility than impeachment and removal. 0bama, unlike Clinton, has shown no inclination to move to the center to save himself. Even if the GOP wins only the House of Representatives he will no longer have a Congress that rubber stamps anything he wants.
If the GOP does the right thing and defunds most of the government, then 0bama is going to be quite bored the next 2 years.
I never thought for a minute Obama would be impeached. The republicans won’t do it.
You hit the nail on the head. With so many people out of work, the GOP should be focused on the economy first. Impeachment right out the gate WILL backfire, and will show the people that the GOP isn’t interested in helping the jobless get work.
“not a chance at this point”
You really thought they’d come into Congress and start impeachment proceedings in January??
Come on, chill with the “betrayal” stuff. It’s pointless unless you have 67 Senators too. And are ready to impeach Biden too.
There’s only 1 realistic way we can be rid of Obama, by beating him in 2012.
Now, on the other hand, there are going to be some Democrats in the House who can be dealt with quite brutally ~ and 24/7 hearings on Democrat corruption should be the order of the day.
> such an attack will fail.
Does 0bama deserve to be impeached?
Will he be convicted?
Rather than deny this communist usurper his second term, an impeachment trial would almost guarantee it.
Better to focus on defunding his looney legislation and gridlocking the DemonRATS from advancing any more of their agenda. We will need an American president to advance our agenda.
Passing laws that won’t be signed by the communist Kenyan will be a nice gesture, but I already know he will veto every piece of Republican Legislation. Every piece. He’s smarter than that, but he can’t help himself. His ideology and his narcissism will trump any political good sense he may have.
Good. He will overplay his hand, once again, and that would increase our chances of denying the commies a second-term presidency.
I am telling everyone I know not to vote for ANY of the SOBs that are in office now.
I had all this info BEFORE the election, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9evCOUZnTVY and I know damn good and well they did too, and more.
NONE of them acted on it, none called him out on it, that makes them ALL just as quilty as him
Just my two cents worth. Don’t flame me, please.
I don’t want to impeach this moron.
I want us to DEFEAT him, in Reagan vs. Mondale fashion. You know, where the whole map is red and one tiny space is blue. Yes, just like that.
Besides, depending on his losses in ten days, the establishment Democrats will be tripping over their own feet to make him irrelevant. If he goes down hard, bumpy, with guts squishing all over the place, all we have to do is step aside. The Democrats have more to lose here; all we have to do is get out of the way. There is no way we’ll have to do the dirty work for these cowards. They won’t stand for this ass to wipe their farm team out for a generation. Their egos are too massive and their quest for power too great. He is THEIR problem and they will handle it. For the most selfish of reasons, btw.
In an election season in which we have our first good chance to bring a few African Americans back home, in some measure..why bother with impeachment? This guy is too small to impeach, seriously. We can let the Dems deal with this in their 2012 primary and then the 2012 election. Because they have balkanized their party on racial lines, they lose either way.
We can handicap Obama in other ways...via defunding, investigations, gridlock, etc. Impeachment will simply “rev” up the left in ways that Clinton’s impeachment didn’t. Let the Dems house of cards fall down on it’s own weight.
I want Palin to take him on, minus his crutch, the teleprompter. This is a fight that needs to happen in this country.
You know, the first president I was old enough to vote for was Reagan. I was so proud, signing in on that sheet, feeling like a rather big cheese. Somewhere, in my stuff I moved from Ohio to Utah, there is a sticker. It says “I voted, 1980.” I still have it.
First principles, only bold colors, no pastels. And no weaseling via impeachment.
I want this fight. It’s a fight for the ages. Humiliation, refudiation (yep), and full DEFEAT are the goal.
The bottom line is that Obama is not worth impeachment. He is just an empty suit. Instead, a much harder task is to break his machine.
Europeans jokingly say that Americans are either cowboys or gangsters, but we call them Republicans and Democrats. And there is more than a glimmer of truth in this.
If you look at the Democrat party from one point of view, it seems to be little more than organized crime, big city machine factions. Right now, the Chicago machine dominates. The Clintons were from the Arkansas machine. There is also the New York, Boston, and the West Coast machines as well as a few other, smaller ones. What we think of as the major blocks within the Democrat party, like the unions, and ACORN, are much like national criminal gangs that are just the glue holding the big city gangs together.
And things hatve been much this way since the first half of the 19th Century.
And they, not Obama and Pelosi and Reid, are what is eroding and even trying to destroy America. That is why it is essential that we all use this election to achieve a new goal.
Don’t allow them to blame these figureheads, and say that America is rejecting *them*. Instead, we all have to get out the message that America is profoundly rejecting “gangsterism”, “socialism”, and all the failed, wrong, and miserable ideas of the left and the Democrats.
Leftist academics and teachers in our schools have to be dismissed, because what they teach is worthless and useless.
Socialized medicine, federal absolutism, Man Made Global Warming and radical environmentalism, the “whole language” English of Noam Chomsky, the “whole mathematics” failure being used to abuse children, the Kinskey sexual perversion organization, the homosexual agenda in public schools, etc.
This is what needs to be impeached, not the impotent, empty suit in the White House.
I’m as frustrated as you are, USALiberty, but I don’t see the wisdom of impeachment. Let’s defeat the SOB in 2012. That would be much better satisfaction, because it would render his ideas as being out of favor. That’s where our political energies should be.
Saying anything else before election day would increase dem turnout. I would have responded the same. Why say anything ten days out that would motivate their base?
He will be increasingly unpopular as time goes on. Let's look ahead for 12 months:
1. Something bad is going to happen overseas, Afghanistan, Iran, Korea, China, Pakistan or any number of other flash points would stress Hussein and drive his popularity down. Remember what Biden said "it might look like we are doing the wrong thing".
2. There is a good possibility of another successful domestic terror attack. Hussein thinks that "we can absorb it" This "who cares" attitude will not serve him well.
3. If the tax cuts aren't extended, and I don't think they will be, a new recession/depression is virtually guaranteed.
4. Issa will keep up his investigations, and the results will be devastating.
His popularity will go straight down. The dems will be in revolt, having been led off the cliff once, they won't want to go off again in 2012. Hillary will mount a challenge. Hussein will be impeached or quit.
What you said!
“If the GOP does the right thing and defunds most of the government, then 0bama is going to be quite bored the next 2 years.”
As long as there are vacations to take and books about himself to read, our Dear Leader will NEVER be bored.
Some of you ragers need to calm it down! Do you numbskulls have any idea what impeaching Obama would do....it would DESTROY conservatism. Aside from real proof....and I mean proof even Dens would acknowledge because it is undeniable and a very big deal....there is no point in impeachment.
Just because the GOP doesn’t want to string up Obama doesn’t mean they are liking the guy.
Agreed. Impeachment will waste serious political capital. What about Fannie Mae Freddie Mac? Doubt anything will happen with that.
Now, anyone tell ME, do we really want to take IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA off the table for 2011??
Source: Huffington Post (22 Oct 2010) With Democrats increasingly outraged over the Supreme Court's Citizen United decision that allowed unlimited corporate spending in elections -- a change conservatives have been more successful at taking advantage of -- a Democratic congressman is raising the prospect of impeaching the Supreme Court's chief justice over the issue. "I mean, the Supreme Court has done a tremendous disservice to the United States of America," Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) told The Huffington Post on Tuesday. "They have done more to undermine our democracy with their Citizens United decision than all of the Republican operatives in the world in this campaign. They've opened the floodgates, and personally, I'm investigating articles of impeachment against Justice Roberts for perjuring during his Senate hearings, where he said he wouldn't be a judicial activist, and he wouldn't overturn precedents."
They bring a brick, we pull out a knife.
They bring a knife, we pull out a revolver.
They bring a revolver, we pull out a B-40 rocket launcher.
They pull out a B-40, we go J-DAMS/BLU on their hides.
This is serious. 2010 the train leaves the station for Good.
GOP MAJORITY HOUSE/SENATE 2010. Impeachment of the President 2011. Conviction and Removal from office, 2012.
Maybe in these last few days, Issa' district, DC and campaign offices should be threatened with GOP support being withheld, and campaign funds going to a third party in the race.
We gotta keep pressure on these guys, and that goes for complete, total REPEAL of Obamacare, to boot.
I agree, in retrospect, i don’t think we should have impeached Clinton, but we did not have the knowledge of who was to come. GOP can’t get in the habit of impeaching every Dem president, to the simple minded people don’t understand the complexities of Clinton case, they think it was just the sex part. it was underoath lies that was the reason for impeachment.
I say for time being make bozo just as uncomfortable as possible. Use Alinsky tactics on him. thanks
Unlike what the Congress did after the 1994 election (Newt tried the government shutdown). I think the Republicans should get rid of the Omnibus Appropriation Bills and start passing appropriations for each government agency separately and sparingly. Let Obama veto bill after bill that doesn’t spend enough money. Turn him into Mr. No.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
I am not one to shrink from the constitutional responsibility of the Congress to impeach and convict officers including presidents for "bribery, high crimes, misdemeanors." In fact, I wrote a vanity deploring the exoneration of Bill Clinton and outlining why I thought he was guilty of actual felonies.
But equally will I resist mindless invocations of impeachment because we do not like the policies of the chief executive. Show me bribery, a high crime, or even a misdemeanor, and I will lead the rhetorical charge for impeachment. Short of that, let us retain our common sense and our respect for the Constitution.
Ahh...yeah that was Issa on the Rush show this past week.
Guess he really didn’t want to hear what Rush had to say on our behalf.
Shame. It is going to cost the man.
I am in Issa’s district and I would crawl across a mile of broken glass to vote to re-elect him. He is the Jim Demint of the house and anyone who would suggest he be defeated is either an idiot or a liberal.
As much as I would like for it to happen, you will never get the necessary votes and the net result will be Americans seeing the GOP wasting taxpayers money.
I am all for staying on point with the Constitution.
We should not be going around and saying things like impeachment is not on the table either.
Both statements on both sides of the argument are irresponsible.
What was Issa’s point in making such a statement? To disgruntle and perhaps disenfranchise the base from bothering to vote?
Issa demonstrated on Rush this past week he doesn’t understand what has happened to the base. Statements like Issa’s are only counter productive and should be held close to the chest, not thrown out on the table days before an election.
I agree. Issa needs to concentrate on passing laws that will pass constittuional muster limiting Zero (and future Presidents) from playing politics with agencies and the military.
And the practice of recess appointments must be stopped.
also, if the President’s budget is so high that he can have limitless number of Tsars. The budget is to high.
And need I say that The congress has 2 years to make real inroads into reigning in the EPA,EDU,NEA,Interior and all their progeny. And Defunding is the perfect way to stop the madness.
REMEMBER IT IS CONGRESS THAT SPENDS THE MONEY.
THAT IS WHAT WE MUST CONCENTRATE ON.
Impeaching Zero will only divert the attention from the goal, and lead to calls from the left of Repubs “wasting” money on Impeachment.
Expose the truth in late 2012. I want to run against Obama, not Hillary or Bahy.
Once again some kneejerks on FR just don’t get it.
Like your analysis. Let me add:
Bernake said something about “quantitative easing”. Read Inflation. More hate and discontent for the big O.
The economy may ease, but only due to the perception of gridlock. Gridlock is a form of stability. However...
Everything the Dems have done up until now will have a negative impact on the economy or being extremely optimistic will have no impact. Thus 8-13% unemployment. More resentment for the big O.
Every time the big O comes out and blames everything and everybody else for problems, mostly republicans, he will demonstrate his lack of leadership-his lack of a substancial plan to ease the economy. More contempt for the big O.
When the repubs have the spine to do their constitutional duty of proper oversight, we should see investigations of the DOJ, financial marketeers, GM, FanMae & FredMac and whatever voter fraud. More trouble for the O.
I hope he does not resign, else Biden will be in charge. (I cannot believe I am writing this) But that would be better for the Dems, I think.
And, Iran gets THE bomb.
He thinks himself a potentate
Potentates do not resign
“Keep your head down. Keep your mouth shut.”
That’s a good part of what got us into this predicament. It’s time to make some real NOISE! We absolutely must extend the CONSERVATIVE brand...not the Democrap brand...not the Republicrat brand...the CONSERVATIVE brand. And we can’t extend that brand by sitting down and shutting up.
We’ll have to take back the country. It doesn’t appear the leftists are tired of their own stupidity, yet.
Where in the pledge was the call for impeachment?
I must have missed it.
They should start with the requirement that every bill have a citation of constitutional authority. Then go through and defund any agency that doesn't have constitutional authority.
After that, they can check BO's papers.
I agree with Congressman Issa on this. Even if we had a high crime or misdemeanor to charge 0bama with, it would be a waste of time to impeach him. Thats because:
1. The votes to impeach 0bama simply aren’t there in the Senate.
2. 0bama is up for re-election in 2012. Let the voters take him out.
3. If we went through the impeachment process it might take a year and a half to get him out of office. At that point Biden would take over and he wouldn’t be able to get rid of all of the czars or any of the cabinet members. So what would be accomplished by impeachment.
4. It would be politically divisive...and would probably make 0bama and the Dems more popular. Just as 0bama and the Dems are unpopular because they focused on healthcare too much and the economy to little over the last 2 years, Republicans would be unpopular because they will be seen as focussing on impeachment too much and the economy too little.
5. And, lastly, we don’t have a high crime or misdemeanor to charge him with. Being a Marxist is not a high crime or a misdemeanor...its a political preference which would best be resolved by the voters.
In summary, impeachment contains a very high risk for Republicans with every little reward.
We are not a movement of Kangaroo Courts. Now if they have evidence and refuse... Call me... I will ride to DC with you, carrying Tar and Feathers!
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