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Latinos Go Conservative
Pajamas Media ^ | October 23, 2010 | Chris Salcedo

Posted on 10/23/2010 7:11:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

The president's pandering and fear mongering are not working, and the nation's fastest growing demographic is rapidly turning away from his socialist policies.

As if the White House didn’t have enough to worry about, a recent Gallup poll piled on bad news for President Obama. At the beginning of 2010 the president enjoyed support from 69% of Hispanics. By May that number was down to 57%. Now just 55% of Hispanics support the president and his liberal agenda. This news by itself is devastating to the Democrats’ prospects in the 2010 midterm elections.

But what’s going on behind the numbers could possibly be a harbinger of doom for Obama’s re-election in 2012. Across the country conservative Latino organizations are springing up as fast as illegal immigrants are streaming across the border. And these organizations are not content to just conduct meetings and complain about the liberal takeover in Washington. Some are taking action. In Dallas, Amigos de Patriots is launching an online and TV ad campaign called “Vote your Values, Vote Conservative.” The idea is to remind Hispanics that their ancestors fled countries where prosperity was killed by left-wing regimes. The 30-second spots also take on social issues like abortion, a practice that is dear to liberals and Democrats but that the Latino community at large finds offensive.YouTube Preview Image YouTube Preview Image

Another organization is the Conservative Hispanic Society (CHS). This group boasts thousands of paid members in nearly all 50 states, and its recent campaigns have urged Latinos to “Vote Your Values.” The reasoning is that Hispanics are conservative on many issues. They value a strong work ethic and don’t believe the government ought to take an unfair share of honest money earned through hard work. On that front, they like to work and don’t advocate liberal policies that destroy the job market. The CHS also believes there is no majority in the Latino community that sanctions abortion on demand.

The CHS has endorsed Pastor Stephen Broden, an African American, in the 30th Congressional District race in Texas. He’s trying to unseat liberal Congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson, who is embroiled in a scholarship scandal. The CHS has also endorsed Sharron Angle in Nevada. The group event called Angle’s opponent “racial Reid.” That was a reaction to a recent comment from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: “I don’t know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican.” The CHS also prides itself on having members of all races in paid membership. The group says all people that believe in conservative Hispanic values are welcome.

It is tragic that so many Latinos whose families risked so much to come to the promise that was America are finding that the leftist polices that made them flee their countries of origin have now taken root in the seats of power in Washington, D.C.

The most liberal president in U.S. history has taken pride in his consolidation of government control over the American people. He calls it “change.” Those first and second generation Hispanics, along with some from the third generation that know history, have seen this type of “change” before. But Obama has far greater accomplishments that will never find their way into a DNC ad. Without President Obama, and his special brand of radical liberalism, the Tea Party would have never been born. And thousands of everyday Americans would still be on the sidelines just living their lives. President Obama’s greatest accomplishment may be the awakening of the conservative movement in the Latino community. Many are starting to take a look at Obama’s “change” and are recoiling in disgust. This time, instead of fleeing, Hispanics are choosing to fight!


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; gopcomeback; hispanics; hispanicvote; latinos; tx30
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1 posted on 10/23/2010 7:11:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Many Latinos these days are ‘conservative Christians’ and they have religious leaders that are leading the troops to the Right. I think it’s great. Fewer abortions, more family oriented.


2 posted on 10/23/2010 7:13:43 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Kaslin

Good! Now maybe they’ll get the G-dam border sealed.


3 posted on 10/23/2010 7:15:04 AM PDT by diverteach (D.C. has become Jonestown.)
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To: Kaslin
Even worse news for the jackass party is that those here legally are abandoning the PRI in even greater numbers.
4 posted on 10/23/2010 7:19:50 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

Not this b.s. again. NR had a great study during the Bush admin about how far gone "Latino culture" really is. Hispanics that are libertarian or conservative? Sure, like me, there are a few here and there, but by and large "Latinos" are in a competition with other race-oriented groups to see how much they can suck from the system.

Anybody that puts ridiculously unimportant and romantic notions about their "race" above anything else is never going to be a functional member of a representative republic.

5 posted on 10/23/2010 7:23:33 AM PDT by upstanding
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To: diverteach

Yes indeed, diverteach...the majority of hispanics in America want the stinkin’ border(s) sealed too.


6 posted on 10/23/2010 7:24:25 AM PDT by lawley
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To: rovenstinez

Dunno about that. Where I am, I’m aware that the religiously-conservative “Latino” churches are not by and large conservative. What drives them? What are they most vocal about? US gringos trying to secure their borders and how horrible the US is to their Chicano “brothers.”


7 posted on 10/23/2010 7:26:33 AM PDT by upstanding
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To: upstanding

You said, “...but by and large “Latinos” are in a competition with other race-oriented groups to see how much they can suck from the system.”

I humbly and respectfully disagree with you.


8 posted on 10/23/2010 7:27:05 AM PDT by lawley
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To: Kaslin
Latinos Go Conservative

Really? Does that mean they are going to insist on doing away with the "Hispanic-American" moniker? Are they going to denounce and insist the disbanding of the Hispanics Caucus, LaRaza, MEChA, LULAC and all the other race advocacy groups? Otherwise their so called 'conservatism' is a bunch of hypocritical BS.

9 posted on 10/23/2010 7:28:43 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: lawley
Look at the past two decades. Look at the majorities of hispanics in this country that support the wetbacks.

Empiricism trumps punditry and hyperbole. Sorry about that.

10 posted on 10/23/2010 7:29:17 AM PDT by upstanding
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To: Kaslin

To start with, Mexican-Americans have never been monolithic. This is a very wise political move on their part. But when you ask them what they care about, it does not look good for either Obama or the left.

Like everyone else, they are very aware of high unemployment, and are distrustful of policies that may cause even higher unemployment.

Next, they have a greater understanding of the near civil war going on in Mexico right now. They, like most Mexican citizens, still remember their last bloody civil war, and they are deeply opposed to another one. This puts them on the side of law and order.

Mexican Americans are even very split on the idea of stricter border controls. Many are strongly in favor of them, for several reasons. Many, especially those with family still in Mexico, want at least the option of their families coming north. But again, the cartel wars are making the north of Mexico so dangerous even for border crossers, that it is becoming intolerable.

Then, Mexican-Americans also have America only issues that are far more mundane. But here as well, they are split like the rest of the country in how to deal with them.


11 posted on 10/23/2010 7:30:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: upstanding

Just got called away to the office. Convenient timing, perhaps....but sincerely unintentional. I will address this thread later tonight.
9:20am CST


12 posted on 10/23/2010 7:31:39 AM PDT by lawley
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To: Kaslin

Unmentioned is what these new groups believe concerning amnesty for illegals, and what they believe concerning border security and immigration policies in the future.

The is the same thing Rove and others used to peddle when pushing for amnesty for all illegals (and also fighting every move at border enforcement), all the naturally conservative Latinos, all those natural Republicans.

It’s too soon to tell, and there’s not enough information to know whether these groups are different, or whether they’re just using a different approach from La Raza, but have basically the same goals.


13 posted on 10/23/2010 7:33:24 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

Thru work, I met a Latino fella about 10 years ago. He was a staunch dem and got heavily involved in election matters.......canvassing, get out the vote, driving other Latinos to the polls.

6-7 years ago he started his own business, which has become very successful. He still gets involved in election politics, but now it’s for conservatives.


14 posted on 10/23/2010 7:34:16 AM PDT by umgud (Wear your Border Patrol hat to the polls)
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To: Kaslin

Good.

Over and over and over again I have said that the Republicans must go after the Hispanic vote and the African-American vote very very aggressively. ... these people are not sheep, these people are not slaves.

We have some great candidates this time but we could use many many more. We have to encourage these people to think like we do, we have to encourage them to value freedom, liberty, prosperity, integrity.

I have many friends among them and not all of them are weak minded plantation slaves that enjoy being talked down to by the demon rats in the Democratic Party. Spoken to properly, preached to properly, encouraged properly, and they will go out and vote for the Republican and the conservative candidate if they have a chance and an understanding of what is at stake.


15 posted on 10/23/2010 7:41:48 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Kaslin
"At the beginning of 2010 the president enjoyed support from 69% of Hispanics. By May that number was down to 57%. Now just 55% of Hispanics support the president and his liberal agenda. This news by itself is devastating to the Democrats’ prospects in the 2010 midterm elections."


If this trend continues, 2012 could be an even bigger problem for Obama and the Dems.
16 posted on 10/23/2010 7:44:34 AM PDT by rob777
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To: Kaslin
Anyone who thinks Latinos vote conservative is delusional. Historically Latinos vote 60-85% LIBERAL. The new generation of invaders and looters vote almost 100% liberal - they do not want the freebies cut off.

The conservative voting Latino is a myth. There are a few exceptions but not significant enough to chase.

17 posted on 10/23/2010 7:48:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Ahh the old hearts and minds game. Such a winner in the past. Your comment shows a complete lack of understanding of Latino social dynamics.
18 posted on 10/23/2010 7:50:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Kaslin
At the beginning of 2010 the president enjoyed support from 69% of Hispanics. By May that number was down to 57%. Now just 55% of Hispanics support the president and his liberal agenda.

Wishful thinking, assuming a national trend by looking at one man's poll numbers.

Hispanic numbers are just following everyone else's, and reflect Obama's cratering support.

Everyone's ashamed to admit they voted for or support the prez, it doesn't predict future behavior IMHO

19 posted on 10/23/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: rovenstinez

We have the conservative Christian Latinos with us. I know a few in my mixed neighborhood.

0bama has the drug cartels and murderers.

I know who I want around me.


20 posted on 10/23/2010 8:27:45 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Latinos are certainly not a monolithic group.

In some cases, it depends where and why they came. Cubans and Venezuelans left oppressive regimes at home. Mexicans from northern Mexico are very conservative with a strong religious tradition. Those from southern Mexico tend to be more liberal with stronger socialist leanings.

Many first generation Latinos rely more on government. As their children grow up, they become more self reliant and subsequent generations gradually become more conservative politically. The one thing that keeps many from staying liberal is that they do not have the same poverty pimping race hustlers that are in the black community.


21 posted on 10/23/2010 8:32:58 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Kaslin

> abortion, a practice that is dear to liberals and
> Democrats but that the Latino community at large finds
> offensive.

They should find abortion offensive. Reading Margaret Sanger’s (Planned Parenthood founder) screeds, you learn that those of Mediterranean, African, and Asian descent, you know, Italians, Jews, Negroes, Orientals, and “hispanics”, were her prime targets for population reduction.

She called them “the brown masses huddled in our cities”.

Isn’t that sweet?

What a darling!

The left has never met a genocidal tyrant that they didn’t admire. Even Hitler is being “rehabilitated” in their narrative, because of his pro-Mohammedan, anti-Jew positions.


22 posted on 10/23/2010 8:33:09 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: umgud

We have a neighbor, originally from the Dominican Republic but now a citizen, who has a handyman business. My husband talked to him for 15 minutes about why gas prices were so high, who had created the housing crash, and who wants higher taxes, and got him to vote for McCain for President. He even put up a yard sign.

There are no big races in my area this year - solidly Republican at city, county, and higher level. However, in 2012, if we get a *good* Republican candidate, I think it’s reasonable to expect considerable support from Latino citizens.


23 posted on 10/23/2010 8:41:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Making the best of every virtue and vice.)
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To: upstanding
Here is a little note I wrote to a Latino brother in Christ who supports 0bama.


24 posted on 10/23/2010 8:42:22 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
The people you know are being diluted by the invasion of scumbags and criminals - mostly the lower life forms from the LA countries. I deal with then closely on a daily basis. Most have families that are living on welfare. The kids have no father listed on their birth certs so they authorities cannot chase dad. They milk the system for every nickle. Crime is rampant in the community which is significantly undereported due to ICE fear. The conservative Latino is a myth planted by the libs so conservatives will waste time chasing them. As I said there are some but they are not worth chasing they will become conservative on their own is they are really that way.
25 posted on 10/23/2010 8:47:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Kaslin

> This time, instead of fleeing, Hispanics are choosing to fight!

They have to.

We *ALL* have to.

The United States, in spite of all the attempts of the meddling busybody statists, is still the last bastion of freedom and liberty on earth.

It always has been.


26 posted on 10/23/2010 9:27:44 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Kaslin

Let us prey.

27 posted on 10/23/2010 9:58:00 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: upstanding; mad_as_he$$
Not this b.s. again. NR had a great study during the Bush admin about how far gone "Latino culture" really is. Hispanics that are libertarian or conservative? Sure, like me, there are a few here and there, but by and large "Latinos" are in a competition with other race-oriented groups to see how much they can suck from the system. Anybody that puts ridiculously unimportant and romantic notions about their "race" above anything else is never going to be a functional member of a representative republic.

The Hispanic divide is Protestant/Catholic.

Bush won 56% of the Protestant Hispanic vote, and McCain/Palin won 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote.

28 posted on 10/23/2010 11:01:54 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12; upstanding

Ah the statistical lie.

Of the 41.3 million Latinos in the United States 2004, about 23 percent (9.5 million) identify themselves as Protestants or other Christians (including Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons). Moreover, 37 percent (14.2 million) of all Latino Protestants and Catholics say they have been born again or are evangelical, according to statistics compiled in the volume, Latino Religions and Civic Activism in the United States (2005, Oxford University Press).

http://www.nhclc.org/news/latino-religion-us-demographic-shifts-and-trend


29 posted on 10/23/2010 11:05:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: rovenstinez
Many Latinos these days are ‘conservative Christians’ and they have religious leaders that are leading the troops to the Right. I think it’s great. Fewer abortions, more family oriented.

They're the prototypical "cradle Catholics." And apart from the percentage of ne'er do wells that you find in any population, they're probably going to be the best wave of immigrants America has seen for some time.

Republicans completely blew the opportunity to reach out to them during the Bush administration. I said so then. I said they were being agitated by leftist organizers and that conservatives ought to reach out to them. But no. And, lo, it looks like 'pubs might find them "useful" after all.

30 posted on 10/23/2010 11:12:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (defeat islam.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Your post wasn’t clear, what statistical lie, you never said anything after that strange exclamation.

The facts are that Bush won 56% of the Protestant Hispanic vote, and McCain/Palin won 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote.

The divide between Hispanic voters is Protestant/Catholic, to keep ignoring that, and to keep trying to describe the “group” as merely “Hispanic” is to make it into an unusable category, and it makes it impossible to analyse what we need to do to effectively reach “Hispanics”.


31 posted on 10/23/2010 11:15:26 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: mad_as_he$$
The NHCLC is headed by the racist Rev. Samuel Rodriguez.

This is the same group that pumps out PR releases comparing conservatives to the KKK.
32 posted on 10/23/2010 11:20:32 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: the invisib1e hand
They're the prototypical "cradle Catholics." And apart from the percentage of ne'er do wells that you find in any population, they're probably going to be the best wave of immigrants America has seen for some time. Republicans completely blew the opportunity to reach out to them during the Bush administration. I said so then. I said they were being agitated by leftist organizers and that conservatives ought to reach out to them. But no. And, lo, it looks like 'pubs might find them "useful" after all.

Is that some kind of joke? McCain only got about 22% of that Catholic, "best wave of immigrants America has seen for some time".

Your second paragraph is especially silly, Bush won 56% of the Protestant Hispanics, and won 33% of the Catholic Hispanics, why did the leftists "agitated" efforts only work on the Catholics?

33 posted on 10/23/2010 11:24:36 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Kaslin; nmh
it will take a lot more than a platitude laden blog from a conservative latino to convince me that most latinos are now voting GOP or conservative

it's never happened so far

and all that talk about family values and Catholicism is just BS from folks who must live in Whitelandia

I was married into Latinos...the only groups I ever saw approximate Conservative were older Cubans, rich South Americans fleeing war and kidnapping at home and a few Old Line Mex-Tex families of whom we have a few that freep here.

other than that they vote like Blacks

and “black” Hispanics like Dominicans and many Puerto Ricans do just that

pandering over identity is such a waste and we have fought over that here...bloody at times...for a decade now

34 posted on 10/23/2010 11:26:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: upstanding

I wish you could put your post on the forum’s header.

It is amazing how many freepers here are such sheeple over this issue...sad really.

God bless you.

Identity politics is a tar pit.


35 posted on 10/23/2010 11:28:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; mad_as_he$$

Voting stats don’t lie...look them up.

Wishful thinking about latino voting is foolish.

One thing though...I was just in Dallas and I must say your Mexican women are sure prettier than in Nashville.

We got all the short squatty Guerrero babes...you guys got the high blood Jaliscos

(formerly married to a lib latina)


36 posted on 10/23/2010 11:33:21 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: ansel12

yeah. hey, nothing wigs out FReepers like a remark about Latinos that isn’t derogatory.


37 posted on 10/23/2010 12:30:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (defeat islam.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Huh?


38 posted on 10/23/2010 12:32:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: the invisib1e hand

You bash conservative freepers, bash Bush, ignore the conservative, republican voting Protestant Hispanics, and pretend that the liberal, democrat voting Catholic Hispanics are “probably going to be the best wave of immigrants America has seen for some time.”

Your remarks are totally derogatory, and are in an anti-conservative direction.


39 posted on 10/23/2010 12:59:34 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Kaslin

There are definitely latino Conservatives out there, but sadly, the vast majority are deeply entrenched in the Philosophy that the Democratic party is the party of Latinos and the working class.

They still perceive the Republican party is the party for Mr.Whitey only.


40 posted on 10/23/2010 1:04:16 PM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: Kaslin
You know, Kaslin, threads like this always go in the same direction.



Runaway Slave

Apostle Claver tells the world how the real party of racism is the Democrats

41 posted on 10/23/2010 1:17:16 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Anyone who thinks Latinos vote conservative is delusional. Historically Latinos vote 60-85% LIBERAL. The new generation of invaders and looters vote almost 100% liberal - they do not want the freebies cut off.
The conservative voting Latino is a myth. There are a few exceptions but not significant enough to chase.”

I’m with you. I live in Arizona and don’t know any Latinos who aren’t fanatical Democrats. They are as in love with Obama as the blacks are.


42 posted on 10/23/2010 5:05:22 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The last Mexican civil war was 1911-1914. How many Mexican-Americans do you think remember that? What they remember is that the leftist PRI ruled for a couple of generations and the economy was stagnant for whole lifetimes and no progress was made for sixty years under the heavy hand of Obama-type government.

Many of them at least just might be ready to listen.

43 posted on 10/23/2010 8:43:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: mad_as_he$$
Writing off the Latino vote shows a complete lack of understanding of American demographics.
44 posted on 10/23/2010 8:46:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Over and over and over again I have said that the Republicans must go after the Hispanic vote and the African-American vote very very aggressively. ... these people are not sheep, these people are not slaves.

I'll concede wrt Hispanics although they heavily tilt Left, but 90%+ AA approval of Zero and his disastrous administration says they *are* slaves, even if the shackles are between their ears.

45 posted on 10/23/2010 8:53:02 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists act as though the world is as they wish it to be; conservatives try to improve what exists.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

My whole point is that where people come from and their background has a lot to do with why they come here, how they come here and what they do when they get here. You cannot generalize about the Latino population because it is very diverse. You are seeing one facet of the Lation population, I see another.


46 posted on 10/23/2010 9:23:07 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Kaslin

It’s absolutely hillarious to listen to some political idealogue say the word “latinos” in heavily accented Spanish, while speaking English, then reverting back to English in an instant. It’s done with a certain pretentious flair that connotes brilliance as if one is above the surrounding society.

It’s like listening to someone describe his American citizenship in hyphenated form, or someone else describing another’s citizenship in that way.

It all has a tinge of obnoxious political elitism.

The question is, if you’re hyphenated, why don’t you go back to your hyphen?

Just asking.

IMHO


47 posted on 10/24/2010 5:25:59 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Kaslin
Don't believe it. And since when is 55% for the Dems a good thing? The reality is that Hispanics vote Dem and they are the fastest growing portion of the population.

Reps are deluded if they think that they can gain any where near the majority of the Hispanic vote.

48 posted on 10/24/2010 6:53:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rovenstinez
Hispanics have a 50% out of wedlock birthrate and more than a 50% school dropout rate. They are not conservative.

Hispanic Family Values? Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.

49 posted on 10/24/2010 6:55:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: the invisib1e hand
The Republicans’ Hispanic Delusion
50 posted on 10/24/2010 6:58:02 AM PDT by kabar
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