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David Frum: A new look at a third party (RINOS ATTEMPTING TO THWART TEA PARTY) (BARF ALERT)
National Post ^ | 2010-10-19 | David Frum

Posted on 10/23/2010 1:57:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Republican political strategist Mark McKinnon – veteran of McCain and Bush presidential campaigns – acknowledged in an interview with David Frum that a third-party presidential effort for 2012 was not far off, and hinted at his involvement in one.

In the podcast interview, McKinnon, who was discussing his recent Daily Beast column “A Centrist Manifesto”, lamented that “there’s nobody that gets rewarded for bipartisan behavior, [and] in fact they get punished.” To that end, he said, “there is a very real possibility for a legitimate third party effort for 2012 … American voters are so hungry for more voice, and more choice.”

While reluctant to discuss the matter much further because announcements are forthcoming, McKinnon did let on that he was at least somewhat involved:

I’m reluctant to talk about [how a third party run would emerge] because I’m involved with some things that are happening that just haven’t been announced… it’s way more than gum-chewing. The appetite is there. Part of the problem is that there are some legal problems in the way. But there are some people working very hard to make sure that there won’t be those legal hurdles in the way… so that anyone who wants to run can run in 2012.

McKinnon suggested that an announcement related to such a third-party effort was on its way within the next few months, by “March at the latest.”

(snip)

McKinnon remained loyal to President Bush, saying that “I fully embrace and believe in the whole concept of compassionate conservatism, and I think we made great achievements in the area of AIDS funding and education reform.

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To: rabscuttle385

We all know about Frum, but this McKinnon bit is fascinating.

McKinnon, the lifelong Democrat activist who used to work for Paul Begala—but then hooked up with W for the 2000 and 2004 campaigns and McCain in 2008.

What’s he about? Funded by, say, a Soros, looking to toss a Perot in to 2012 in order to help Obama? More Bush family shenanigans, as we know Jeb wants to run in 2016? Then there’s even the Mittster, whose MA handlers have been saying they are taking him moderate in position for 2012.

It’s of course laughable that we need more RINOs to keep spending down, I don’t know how they can even claim that without themselves laughing out loud. But someone is funding him good and early, before there’s reason to believe that the GOP won’t end up with another moderate, say Mitt Milquetoast, for 2012.

This is clearly what would please a DLC-style Democrat (which one might argue Bill Clinton, W, McCain, Frum and McKinnon all are), and if the belief was that it would re-elect Obama, of course what the radical left would want as well. So what are the possibilities? A Hillary/Mitt fusion ticket? Nah, even Mitt’s not selling out for number two.

Or, is it meant to be the RINOs’ counter-threat to the tea partyers saying they might splinter off if the GOP doesn’t get serious?

I really don’t know, but something is up.


21 posted on 10/23/2010 2:18:03 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rabscuttle385

Let all the RINO’s go into a third party, we’ll keep the Republican Party. Sounds like a win-win-win situation to me. Small government types win, RINOs get a way station to full socialism and America will win.


22 posted on 10/23/2010 2:18:04 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Diogenesis

That’s a great list whenever you post it!


23 posted on 10/23/2010 2:19:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rabscuttle385
I say go for it.....let's separate the men from the boys. Take all the wimps with them....It'll make our job easier.
24 posted on 10/23/2010 2:19:48 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Malesherbes

“No Barf Alert necessary. The name David Frum is sufficient warning.”

bttt


25 posted on 10/23/2010 2:20:10 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: rabscuttle385

These parasites just don’t get it. You CANNOT compromise with folks hellbent on destroying America.


26 posted on 10/23/2010 2:25:46 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: rabscuttle385

There are two things that come to mind here.

1.

The conservatives (including “social” conservatives) have been, for the last 35 years, the majority of the Republican Party. Because that wasn’t always the case, we have been like the horse, who doesn’t realize that we are larger than the “master” because we are shorter (lean on leadership positions) and get our carrots and apples from them. They have done whatever has been necessary for us to not realize our size, and to accept their role as master. They would rather lose elections than have the roles reversed, which is why they NEVER got too excited about Reagan.

2.

In negotiations of any kind, you never want to cede ground before the other guy. Over the decades, we have from time to time, talked about going third party (Bob Smith, Pat Buchanan). This time, with the Tea Party, we didn’t blink. We have numbers of participants, and we can take over, over time, in numbers. Now, it’s the Crists and the Murkowskis and Frums who are going independent and third party. They blinked.

Why now? Because when conservatism takes over the Congress after “compassionate” conservatism and McCainseyism lost the House, Senate and Presidency, the argument of meeting radical leftism with conciliatory centrism is GONE.

In light of the above, I believe the John B. Anderson Party should be formed. He is the shining prophet who foresaw the future of RINOism.


27 posted on 10/23/2010 2:29:27 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: rabscuttle385

McKinnon is a traitor. It was his camp that gave Gore the debate prep manual for GW.

As for centrist. Someone needs to remind these jackasses that the only thing in the middle of the road is ROAD KILL


28 posted on 10/23/2010 2:32:17 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Down with RINOS!!

Rebellion is brewing!!


29 posted on 10/23/2010 2:33:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Just vote them OUT!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

You can’t cure stupid, but you can vote them OUT!!


30 posted on 10/23/2010 2:34:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Just vote them OUT!!)
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To: Darksheare

I’m still confused as to why this Canadian liberal thinks he’s relevant to anything in the US.


31 posted on 10/23/2010 2:43:41 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Carley

Frum and McKinnon are Vichy Republicans of the lowest order, I recall vividly that Frum repeatedly stabbed Sarah Palin in the back along with some of McCain’s own advisors.

McKinnon worked for McCain with the caveat “if you attack Obamao, I’m leaving” and leave he did, but McCain’s Campaign never really did go after Obamao.

Start a third party...do it, I still recall John Anderson in 1980 handing the election to Reagan.


32 posted on 10/23/2010 2:51:20 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: rabscuttle385
His manifesto, McKinnon said, was based on the idea that, although it’s difficult to for many who are derided as RINOs and squishes nowadays, “the Republican Party needs all the RINOs and squishes we can get in order to reestablish ourselves as the majority.”

Sigh. Well, that explains a lot.

33 posted on 10/23/2010 2:51:50 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: A. Morgan

Wonder who is bribing Frum?


34 posted on 10/23/2010 2:55:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 9YearLurker
"Or, is it meant to be the RINOs’ counter-threat to the tea partyers saying they might splinter off if the GOP doesn’t get serious?"

Saved the best for last?

Perceptive.

Like O'Hatch saying he is more conservative than Bob Bennett, reelect him in the 2012 primary or he and all his dinosaur GOP buddies will become Murkowskis.

With bucks going to individuals, the old time GOP are, as we write, looking at their contributions and gauging their futures.

yitbos

35 posted on 10/23/2010 2:56:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: darkangel82

One of the mysteries of life.


36 posted on 10/23/2010 3:03:30 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Carley

McKinnon was a lifelong Dem operative who surprisingly announced after the 1996 election that he was out of politics—only to reappear as a W man for 2000. That sure looks to me like a guy who is really still a Dem operative in deep cover. There are so many of them now that they are simply known as RINOs, but it’s useful to remember what they’re really up to.


37 posted on 10/23/2010 3:07:38 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jabba the Nutt

right on the money


38 posted on 10/23/2010 3:13:44 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: rabscuttle385

Memo to David Frum

Shut up. No one cares what you have to say.


39 posted on 10/23/2010 3:24:46 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Darksheare
So it comes as no surprise to me that Frum is sneering at the Tea Party.

Actually, before I read rabs' editorial comment, I thought Frum was going to write about some Canadian third party agent who was buying advertising for candidates. (The English used by our British and Canadian cousins is often amusingly different from the American version)

40 posted on 10/23/2010 3:26:25 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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