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Travelling while fat
The New York Times ^ | October 20, 2010 | Ron Goldstone

Posted on 10/24/2010 1:55:30 AM PDT by Cronos

At 285 pounds and 5 feet 7 inches, I may not be the tallest, but I am almost always one of the biggest passengers on a plane. That’s “one of”: as anyone with even the most tangential relationship with news headlines over the last several years knows, Americans are getting fatter and fatter.

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“How many kilos you weigh?” asked a customs officer at Ho Chi Minh Airport when I visited Vietnam a few years ago.

“Is that a question on the form?” I responded, slightly unnerved.

Smiling, she told me no. She was apparently just curious.

After giving me the once-over, she giggled and advised me to avoid riding in the local hand-pulled rickshaws, as my size could force them to tip over.

(Excerpt) Read more at travel.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airplan; commiecare; fat; food; nannys; nannystate; noonesbusiness; notmybusiness; obese; personalissue; weight
I find it really strange that people can let themselves balloon to 285 lbs on a 5'7" body. That's just being lazy.
1 posted on 10/24/2010 1:55:33 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Sometimes people have medical condition. Most of the time people are just lazy.

Fat man can beat a hungry man any time one on one. Three hungry men can beat a fat man no problem. Last I checked China had about 3 to one on us.

Doesn’t bode well for us.


2 posted on 10/24/2010 1:59:22 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Cronos
I have a couple of problems while flying the friendly skies. 1) I'm 6'6” tall and weigh about 315 lbs. Not only do I have a hard time getting between the arm rests but there are always people who like to recline their seat backs down and slam into my knees. I am, I admit, overweight but not fat by any means. 2) The second problem I have is I have bullets in my legs from when I was in the military. They were unable to surgically remove them due to the fact, they are buried deep into my muscles. If they attempted to get them out, it would make my handicap even worse than it is. The metal detectors goes freaking nuts when I walk through them. I am always brought to the semi-private and given the once over even though I have a medical card stating what the problem is. TSA personnel are just a little slow when trying to read. lol So needless to say, I avoid flying as much as possible.
3 posted on 10/24/2010 2:08:16 AM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: Cronos

I have a different issue. At 6’8” I don’t fit on many planes. I can only fly first class so Southwest is out. And most commuter jets are not made for tall passengers. To make things worse, some airlines are considering eliminating first class.


4 posted on 10/24/2010 2:17:13 AM PDT by South40 (Spread my work ethic not my wealth!)
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To: Cronos

I’m 6”, and I came really close to breaking 300 lbs awhile back. It wasn’t laziness, it was a combination of post-pregnancy weight and hormone shots. It was horrifying, and it took me a year and a half to slim back down.

Thank God I didn’t have occasion to fly anywhere during this time...All common decency and kindness seem to go out the window when people spot a fat person on a plane.


5 posted on 10/24/2010 2:31:14 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: Nitehawk0325
Thank you for your service.

I shattered a heel five years ago and had a plate and nine pins in my foot. The surgeon was going to leave the metal in, and told me I'd get a medical card to get me through the TSA screens. I've since learned that such cards are virtually worthless, which makes sense because it wouldn't be difficult for even a Muzzie terrorist to figure out he could avoid a thorough search by merely forging a doctor's excuse if they did work. I am fortunately, I suppose, that I required two additional surgeries and on the third they pulled all the metal.

I hate to burst your bubble, but at 6'6" and 315 lb you are fat, with a body mass index of 36, which is well above the obesity threshold of 30. I have no doubt that you carry your mass well, considering. I have a BMI of 40, so I envy your relatively svelt physique.

Given the bullets in your legs, think about requesting a front-row seat with no reclining seat in front of you. Or, request a seat behind an exit row, as those seats don't recline. Just tell the booking agent you have a disability, and they will likely accomodate you. I usually request an aisle seat on the side of the plane opposite my bum foot, because its easier to get in and out of my seat with such an assignment. I've been accomodated more often than not. The problem I've had is the airline being overaccomdative by greeting the plane with a wheelchair for me (which I've never requested, but the word "disability" seems to trigger some protocol). I've always declined a wheelchair because I regard the walk through the airport as a form of physical therapy. I've only missed one connecting flight because of this.

Those who take cheap shots at fat folks are fortunate that they have a metabolism or an ability to stay active enough to keep the weight off. I gained 50 lb after being diagnosed with diabetes, much of that due to the medications. I stopped taking one pill for two months just to see if it had any effect on my weight, and I lost 20 lb without any increase in physical activity or any attempt to modify my diet. My blood sugar was sky high after those two months and I went back to taking the pill, but as my doctor said, "Take the pill to keep your blood sugar down and live longer at a higher weight, or forego the pill for a lower weight, a supposed higher quality of life, but plan on dying sooner." To tell you the truth, being lighter with a chronically high blood sugar isnt much of a quality improvement.

6 posted on 10/24/2010 2:39:00 AM PDT by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Wow, 6 inches and 300 pounds, that would really be a sight.

All joking aside, it is great that you lost itbut one thing I will say. People are very cruel when it comes to the way people look or sound. People have got to start accepting who they are and loving who they are. People shouldn't pay attention to TV, movies or any advertisements, just love who they are and where a big smile because a big smile will get you almost anywhere. God Bless.

7 posted on 10/24/2010 2:39:04 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Nitehawk0325

In our current environment I’m okay with them pulling you aside despite your medical card. Otherwise, that might become an easy dodge for those with bad intent.

And, indeed—thank you for your service!


8 posted on 10/24/2010 2:50:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: skookum55

You may have been deceived about your medication for glucose control: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/193313.php

Forty years of diabetes treatment protocol has been invalidated with the confirmation that the medications were killing the diabetics at a much higher rate than the high glucose levels.


9 posted on 10/24/2010 2:57:00 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: skookum55

BMI is a scale that should be completely tossed - it’s really NOT a good indicator of health or obesity at all...

Three days ago, I had my biannual physical. I’m 1.83 meters (6 feet) tall, and just clocked in at 126.6 kg (280 pounds). Morbidly obese according to the BMI (and over here in China where I live half-time, and am presently reclining AND residing, I’m a freaking wall). I wear a US size 64 jacket. And a US size 36 jeans. I have 32-34” thighs, so I get custom made jeans to fit me. I’m just thick with a monster rib-cage. I do have 18” biceps, but with my oversized 16” diameter elbows and 10” diameter wrists, they look small. And anything smaller than my 19” neck would be pencil-sized on my frame.

It’s not from being a bodybuilder - workouts for me consist of huffing heavy gear around once or twice a week for half an hour or so, and a nightly walk for 30-40 minutes after dinner. My entire grandfather’s family was built this way, like overgrown dwarves, or shrunken cave-trolls if you will. We also suffer from short legs - I have a 28” inseam on a 6 foot frame - I have the legs of a man that is 5’ 7” tall, and the torso of a man around 6’ 5” tall.

I get the big, tailored jackets because my chest doesn’t fit in something that fits my waist (I can’t even get my arms in it, the jacket would rip across the shoulders), or if it fits my shoulders/chest I could slip another me in the waist.

I once “slimmed down” to 240 pounds, but when my hip bones and lower ribs started to show, it was clear that’s just not healthy for me. Sometimes people don’t just “carry it well”, they’re BUILT that way on purpose. In my case, I believe I’m built this way to make the local Chinese tailors sweat, and to serve as a living jungle-gym for the kids of my friends...:)

FWIW, my checkup revealed I’m in great health, good BP/heartrate, no cholesterol problems at all. EKG and stress test were all fine. Only issue detected was my hemoglobin count; for Caucasian men it should be between 135 and 170 grams per liter, and I clocked in at a doctors-record-high 192. Doctor’s prescription? She said I can take some expensive drugs, or give blood 2-3 times a month... I’ll choose the latter - I’ve got enough to share!


10 posted on 10/24/2010 2:59:30 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: rambo316

Erg, the second I hit post I thought “You idiot, you put the ‘inch’ designation instead of the ‘foot’ designation. I KNEW that was going to attract attention! :-)

You can’t improve yourself until you accept yourself. I didn’t really make any progress with my weight until I realized that I was worth the extra work it took to lose it.


11 posted on 10/24/2010 3:03:27 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: Cronos

I have a pretty big beer belly. No excuses, just the way it is.

I get the same treatment from kids and, believe it or not, young ladies here in Tokyo. Girls, especially high school to to college age, just can’t seem to walk by me on the train without giving my belly a friendly little pat or poke.

I’ve even had a young lady stop and put her ear on my tummy to “listen to the baby”. I swatted her with my newspaper and her friends giggled themselves to tears.


12 posted on 10/24/2010 3:03:34 AM PDT by Ronin (If he were not so gruesomely incompetent and dangerous, Obama would just be silly.)
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To: South40

at 6’8” — I doubt you’d fit in most places :) Though I do wish I was 7 inches taller. Being your height has it’s advantages too!


13 posted on 10/24/2010 3:04:43 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: skookum55

I think some of this thinness goes to extremes. My son is 6’1” tall, and he weighs about 215. He wrestles, and has a 32 inch waste. Let me tell you, the kid is solid as a brick sh*t house. In boyscouts, they play around, and its fun for him to get 4-5 other scouts on him and carry them around as they try and topple him.

Now, on to the story, his female doctor tells me one day that he is “obese”. She shows me some chart, and I’m looking at it, and in the normal range for his height is 135 lbs to 145 lbs or some such nonsense (I could be ten pounds off here or there, I don’t remember exactly what it was, so if your a doctor, please don’t flame me).

My kid would have a 12” inch waste if he was that thin. Further, when he was in 5th grade, they told us he was obese, because he was chubby. Well, I raised him like my dog when it was a puppy, he ate lots of protein, and he filled in that size. I bet if I starved him on wheat germ, tofu and bean sprouts as was suggested, he would have been malnourished, and not half as smart as he is now.

I’m not discounting the obesity problem, but I think there are more important things to worry about in life.

It started with the media portraying all women as 6’ and 95’ pounds, and now its on to the men as well. I’m sorry, I dont’ find anything masculine about a 6’ 95lb man, and would be hard pressed to take any such creature seriously if he threatened me. My wife says I look like Sean Connery, that’s the build I have, and I’m sure I’m considered obese as well by these medical experts.

Screw em all.


14 posted on 10/24/2010 3:05:08 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: LongElegantLegs
"post-pregnancy" -- the "laziness" bit doesn't apply to you or to other people who medically become fat. There are quite a few like you who can't help the weight they are at (thyroid problems for one), yet the vast majority of fat and obese CAN do something about it.

Btw, you did something about it too and now weight less, right?
15 posted on 10/24/2010 3:06:28 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: LongElegantLegs
"common sense and decency"? I guess you mean the jokes right? or is it worse?

Though, having lived outside the US for some time now, I can say that most Americans are unhealthily fat and need to slim down quite a bit.
16 posted on 10/24/2010 3:07:46 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: skookum55

BMI isn’t completely accurate. I have a BMI of 23.5 now, but I used to have a BMI of 26 when I was heavily into powerlifting and had 55%-60% muscle mass.


17 posted on 10/24/2010 3:09:39 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: skookum55

ouch — though, doesn’t additional rigourous exercise help?


18 posted on 10/24/2010 3:15:40 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Ronin

well, if the girls are pretty....


19 posted on 10/24/2010 3:18:40 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

You only need a hundred extra calories a day. Plus when you get so big, it’s really hard to move, exercise. Imagine having hundred pound pack on, all the time.

Other then that, you could well be a hard working, dutiful spouce.

Anyway,

So you get to a point, even if you are not adding calories, even eating little, but burning little because you are so big, and don’t move so you don’t need calories, and don’t burn them.

Plus, you are/might be so depressed, physically and other wise, that the only pleasure you get is food, because physically you feel lousy all the time.


20 posted on 10/24/2010 3:19:28 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Cronos
Being tall does have its advantages but it's also got its drawbacks. Most things are more expensive, from air fare to clothing. My skull is full of spider cracks from doorways, basement stairwells, overhead bins on airplanes and other objects that are not a problem for others. I don't fit in the average hotel bed so that takes the fun out of traveling. I can't go to a movie unless I want to sit in the front row which I don't so I just don't go to the movies. Concerts are no fun either because front row seating is seldom accessible and I don't like blocking the view(s) of others. Cars aren't made for tall people though I do fit nicely in my Chevy Tahoe. I can fit in the wife's Audi with the sun roof open and I've customized my truck, Jeep and boat or I could never fit in them.

Being tall has its advantages too. Number 1 on the list is it was the thing that first caused Mrs. 40 to be attracted to me. Most others I believe are fairly obvious.

21 posted on 10/24/2010 3:27:03 AM PDT by South40 (Spread my work ethic not my wealth!)
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To: Cronos
I did, and I do! I'm within twenty pounds of my government-approved healthy weight, and I intend to blow past that (downward!) soon.
Even at my fattest, I was walking several miles a day. It was so disheartening because I did the same stuff that had slimmed me down after all my previous pregnancies, and it had no effect. I always knew when certain people were repulsed by my appearance, but I couldn't exactly go up to them and say “I know it looks like I'm a fat slob, but I do exercises regularly and this is mostly because of some shots I had”. I just had to be quiet and think about how disgusting I felt. It was a very painful learning experience.

I was/am lucky to have a supportive Mom. She gave me an extremely small pair of pants and her old exercise machine. I finally got into the pants last month, and let me tell you, THAT was a great day. :-)

22 posted on 10/24/2010 3:28:43 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: Cronos

A friend of mine (a grandmother) was treated very badly by a fellow passenger; he didn’t want to sit in the same row with her, and instead of quietly pulling aside a flight attendant and asking for a seat change he decided to be loud and obnoxious about it.

I wish I had been there; it would have been my pleasure to get arrested for stapling that nitwit’s earlobes to his thighs.


23 posted on 10/24/2010 3:39:33 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: Leisler

well, why don’t they move? If one weights 100 lbs more than one should, then a small 20 min walk a day makes a diff — extend that after 2 weeks to 30 min, then after another 2 weeks to an hour’s walk, even a slow one, then get a faster pace.


24 posted on 10/24/2010 3:42:10 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Well .....on the other hand there’s this...

if it’a been me............ i’da given little miss commie smart ass..both barrels...

How about’

‘Well, MISSY... in a democratic republic with a free people and freedoms provided by a superb military protecting the bill of rights and a CONSTITUTION commonly recognized as the most enlightened political document ever conceived by the mind of man coupled with a system of free enterprise s....there are so damn many opportunities to get rich and buy what ever you want.......... some of the God’s chosen people aka AMERICANS....might tend to enjoy our blessings more than others....

This situation is way way different from the populace of CHINA where there is still starvation and you pretty much have a population of starving bicycle riders with B.O.

have a nice day COMRADE CLUELESS

another thing personally i think....YOU’D BE BETTER OFF SHUTTIN THE SMART MOUF... then...GETTIN DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AN PRAYING TO GOD THAT YOU, SOMEDAY MIGHT BE ABLE TO RUN LIKE HELL and ESCAPE FROM YOUR COMMIE HELL AND APPLY FOR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP..... AN EARTHLY HEAVEN WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF FOOD AND OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE.....

ONE WORD FOR YA sweetheart AMERICA ....have a nice day.
(HEH, HEH HEH......)


25 posted on 10/24/2010 3:51:26 AM PDT by flat
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To: Ronin
Curious... Haven't they grown up surrounded by depictions of a round-bellied Buddha, sumo wrestlers, and the like?

I do know that Japanese people can be somewhat forward when encountering unusual-looking (to them) people, and Westerners generally - fifteen years ago when I was traveling through Japan with my girlfriend at the time (who had an unusual hair texture and style even by American standards, and who must have appeared like a space alien to many of the people that we encountered, especially in out-of-the-way places such as Kagoshima - one of the maids at the ryokan actually asked me directly if it was OK for her to touch my girlfriend's hair - my GF told me that it was OK and so I gave her the go-ahead)

But I have seen the giggling twenty-something Japanese woman syndrome in the US - a few years back I took a blind date (who was probably 5'2" and 275 lbs. or more) to a Japanese restaurant in NYC (that has lots of Japanese nationals as their clientele). The table next to us had four or five twenty-something women seated, and throughout the meal I could tell (even with my limited Japanese language skills) that they were making fun of her. At the end of the meal as I was getting ready to go, I grabbed my coat off of a nearby hook and accidentally knocked down the coat of one of the next table's "guests", and as she rushed to pick it up I tossed out a "gomen nasai" or a "shitsurei shimasu" in her direction, while she and the rest of her friends suddenly became really quiet as they realized that the dumb gaijin at the next table must have been listening to their cackling all along...

26 posted on 10/24/2010 3:53:21 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Leisler

well, why don’t they move? If one weights 100 lbs more than one should, then a small 20 min walk a day makes a diff — extend that after 2 weeks to 30 min, then after another 2 weeks to an hour’s walk, even a slow one, then get a faster pace.


27 posted on 10/24/2010 4:10:13 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: South40

The free market should determine if tall or fat people can comfortably ride on privately owned airlines, and how much it costs.

The inconveniences in life are many, and they are often lamentable, but they are most often not the responsibility of government or business owners to address.

Imagine the way the early settlers and the waves of immigrants had to travel.


28 posted on 10/24/2010 4:29:38 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Eyes Unclouded

MOST of the time, people have a disease and are referred to as “compulsive overeaters”.

Those who seek help can find understanding and are welcome at http://www.OA.org/

Those who prefer to remain ignorant and hostile to fat people should not visit that website.


29 posted on 10/24/2010 4:40:22 AM PDT by GEC (We're not drilling in ANWR because....)
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To: Zeppo

Oh yeah...

I like to keep my Nihongo ability secret. I hear all kinds of interesting things that way.


30 posted on 10/24/2010 4:54:41 AM PDT by Ronin (If he were not so gruesomely incompetent and dangerous, Obama would just be silly.)
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To: skookum55
I hate to burst your bubble, but at 6'6" and 315 lb you are fat, with a body mass index of 36...

Anyone who believes in the BMI probably believes in global warming. The BMI is a joke. There are other, accurate ways to determine whether someone is obese.

31 posted on 10/24/2010 4:57:27 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Cronos

Wow. Some of the larger folks on this thread show as much mercy towards their fellow passengers that must endure sitting next to them as they show a triple cheeseburger and fries.

I’m not small, but I admit that I’m a little bit like Juan Williams watching a Muslim get on his plane when I see fat people waddling down the aisle heading my way.

If you are fat, for whatever reason, it doesn’t mean that people are obligated to enjoy sitting next to you when you fly. Those who are corpulently challenged might try apologizing to them, or thanking them when they request to be reseated leaving them with more room that is clearly needed.


32 posted on 10/24/2010 5:10:24 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Cronos

5’ 7” and 285 pounds????? A big lard of fat is what this individual is. Shameful. He needs to get off the couch and start walking.


33 posted on 10/24/2010 5:10:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Nitehawk0325

You can try military hops if commercial travel is a hassle. It’s not as reliable as commercial flights, but it is an alternative.

www.militaryhops.com/


34 posted on 10/24/2010 5:25:07 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Nitehawk0325

You can try military hops if commercial travel is a hassle. It’s not as reliable as commercial flights, but it is an alternative.

www.militaryhops.com/


35 posted on 10/24/2010 5:25:10 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Oops! Here an active link.

http://www.militaryhops.com/


36 posted on 10/24/2010 5:34:29 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: skookum55
I hate to burst your bubble, but at 6'6" and 315 lb you are fat,

You have no idea what his body mass index is. Athletic types who are built up, or those who are naturally muscular, those with dense bones (Some eastern Europeans, American Indians), etc., even those with large heads have a different number. You can get a better idea by using the thumb, third finger, wrist test or best yet, get dunked in a water tank to check displacement.

I have even seen BMI charts that are the same for men and women. That is willful ignorance.
37 posted on 10/24/2010 5:45:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: LongElegantLegs

ok, posted too soon! So, how did you finally manage to lose the weight? Just by sticking to the exercise routine?


38 posted on 10/24/2010 6:14:13 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

Not only that, he talks about it like he’s been huge for 20 years. Could have lost ten pounds a year and no longer be so fat. That’s just sloth.


39 posted on 10/24/2010 6:27:37 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Nitehawk0325
TSA personnel are just a little slow when trying to read.

You found a TSA agent who could read?

/tangent

40 posted on 10/24/2010 7:01:02 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Cronos

“...cause of one too many pieces of cake,...”

Only in the US - where people have forgotten the importance of cooking a meal - making sure it’s healthy - and not relying on someone to fix it all tasty like in a box - for a microwave...

I’m sorry - but 20 yrs ago - one did not see the amount of over sized people that one sees today - be it lazy - over eating - or just thinking - I’m free and I deserve this and as much as I want mentality - there’s no excuses.

I’ve been to many gyms and met people that were over weight - “were over weight” - but they changed their eating habits and took responsibility for their weight - they made no excuses and dealt with it - what ever the trigger was that put them there in the first place...

I’m concerned - because of the PT standards in the military might be lowered to accommodate the plus size soldiers - that is a NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM to me...


41 posted on 10/24/2010 7:08:16 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Nitehawk0325

Nitehawk, thanks for your service.


42 posted on 10/24/2010 7:27:33 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: South40
At 6’8” I don’t fit on many planes.

Looking at the statistics on corporate promotion. Tall execs out number short execs by about 100 to 1. The bias in society in your favor surely out weighs any minor inconvenience on your part while flying. SHeesh. Tall whiners.....

43 posted on 10/24/2010 7:37:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zeppo

Chinese women can also be quite free with observations and advice.

There are quite a few Chinese women at the health club I go to. They most swim for exercise.

A friend, admittedly obese, was approached by a couple of them at the club and given advice on losing weight.

She looked at them with a stunned expression and said, “I’m fat?? Who knew?”

They don’t seem to have the boundaries that keep most of us from making personal remarks about another’s appearance.


44 posted on 10/24/2010 7:57:44 AM PDT by altura
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To: central_va
Looking at the statistics on corporate promotion. Tall execs out number short execs by about 100 to 1.

Tallness is a rough visual marker for brains. Tall people on average have bigger brains and higher IQs.

45 posted on 10/24/2010 8:04:04 AM PDT by Reeses (Now is the autumn of our discontent.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

BMI...here is all anyone needs to know: there is no distinction made between sexes. No adjustment made for different wrist size, for example, to accommodate a different frame. Just height and weight.

If I ever have a doctor mention BMI to me, I will call him an incompetent idiot to his face & walk out. I’m 5’8” and 170 lbs...BMI 25.8, overweight. Which is true, sort of, but if I lost 15 lbs, I’d be ripped.

If I weighed 125 lbs, I’d be “normal” - except I HAVE weighed 125 before, after a long sickness. I looked like a cadaver.

As it is, I run 4 miles/day, 3-4 days/week. I ride horses, haul bales of hay, etc. I don’t want to look like a corpse. I don’t want scrawny arms that can’t lift a hay bale, or walk around with no energy to do anything.

BMI is stupid. My son was adopted from the Philippines. He is 5’2”, and his shoulders are wider than mine. I had a co-worker who was a Filipino. He was 5’10” and his shoulders were about 2/3 the width of mine. Any weight standard that doesn’t attempt to measure the frame is obviously grossly inaccurate...the sort of thing only a government idiot would approve.


46 posted on 10/24/2010 8:09:49 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: Cronos
Regarding the travel issue: if a big person has a problem with me using the armrest and recline space the airline SOLD ME, they should take it up with the airline, instead of being a space beggar (or thief).

On fatness, I have never met a fatty (with or without a doctor's note) who avoided sweets, white carbs, restaurant junk, and processed foods, and who did at least a little exercise a couple times a week.

I have sympathy for those who have injuries that prevent them from walking, because it means they don't enjoy (or need) the pleasure of eating much.

I'm convinced that obesity is 80% diet, 19% exercise, and 1% medical luck.

If anyone wants me to believe that “metabolism” or hormones change the laws of science, explain how humans came to extract all nutrition from their food, while the special cases somehow extract more nutrients than there is in food, so they can store it as fat. The reality is that your ailment makes you choose to overeat and not exercise, but you can still choose (no matter how hard) to take control.

47 posted on 10/24/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Nobody tell Barack Obama what number comes after a trillion" --S.P.)
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To: Beelzebubba

Yes, one still chooses how much one eats and can control that and the exercise (or lack of it)


48 posted on 10/24/2010 2:39:43 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

That is metabolically true. And, effective.

I suppose, that they are exhasted.

For instnae. I have always done physical work, for work. Most of my friends are educated office dwellers. On the week ends, they want to get out and ‘do’ something. Me? I want to sit down and do nothing.

Fatties feel that they are in a work out, all the time. They are, or feel they are, exhausted.

Depending on their cardio vascular system, they may well be exhausted, or maxed out.

Regardless of fat, their body is signaling that they are a heart beat away from stroke ville, and to sit down. So, doing even more, may be, at a deeper level to them, against their body signals.


49 posted on 10/24/2010 4:25:23 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: sergeantdave
You know, I can't remember the last time I took a military hop. I went to Germany with one, Japan with another and just to the East Coast on yet another. Getting to the destinations never seemed to be a problem, it was always the return trip. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure how it works for bringing family along. I will look at the website you noted. Thanks again.
I just remembered something. The last time I used the military to a trip, they were called MAC flights. That's been a long time. lol
50 posted on 10/24/2010 9:20:47 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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