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Radical Shriek
Slate ^ | October 23, 2010 | David Weigel

Posted on 10/24/2010 5:19:33 AM PDT by libstripper

BERKELEY, Calif.—On the night before we are scheduled to address this conference, the Tea Party experts are treated to a meal at the Faculty Club. It sounds fancy, and it is, with the feel and décor of a Sundance ski lodge. Over craft beers, wine, and cheese, we discuss that favorite topic of liberal academics: What the hell happened to Barack Obama? Why does the right have all the energy that he and the left used to own?

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academics; libs; teaparty
Why don't they just go and atend some tea parties, read the postings here on FR, and listen to Rush, et al? They'd quickly learn what we're all about.
1 posted on 10/24/2010 5:19:36 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

“Tea Party experts”...these morons treat us like they’re Jane Goodall and we’re the apes. We’re not fellow citizens to them, we’re some sort of anthropological experiment.

}:-)4


2 posted on 10/24/2010 5:24:29 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: libstripper

The Left is nothing if it’s not potty-mouthed. How can these elitists command any respect when they lace their language with vulgarity?

Maybe it impresses people who don’t have real jobs or who don’t care about children, but it doesn’t impress me.

It makes me think that they need to have their mouths washed out with Fells Naphtha.


3 posted on 10/24/2010 5:26:57 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: libstripper
Why?

It's simple. Three things happened:

(1) ~ in the last 2 elections the Democrats managed to bump off a good number of our Republican "problem children" who'd been engaging in too many "reach arounds"

(2) ~ Compound that with normal retirement levels

(3) ~ PLUS beating the cr*p out of many of the remaining "problem children" in primaries this year,

~ and there you have it ~ a Republican party with few "problem children" who are the type get out there and alienate Republican voters with promises of "Democrat Lite" or more "reach arounds".

We also got rid of all the known gay Republican office holders or individuals in party management ~ and that seems to have been reflective of a problem the public has, to wit ~ they look past the fact that 1/3 to 1/2 the Democrat activists are gay, but if a gay person shows up in Republican politics they recoil in terror. So, sorry gay people, the public says we can't win elections with you around in our party so if you have a complaint, take it up with them ~ not us!

4 posted on 10/24/2010 5:32:28 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: libstripper
They don't do as you suggest because they don't think you get to the truth that way. They believe all communication is deceptive, and the REAL truth can only be determined by an academic, using whatever theory he or she believes as a framework. The actions of the group or person in question are then analyzed within that framework, and the REAL answers emerge.

Example: Forget what the Tea Partiers SAY they're about. I am a Marxist academic, and I see they are angry white property owners threatened by the rise of a black socialist in a capitalistic society. Thus, the Tea partiers are obviously a racist cabal rising up to stop progress and return us to a slave state.

(I'm sure you think I'm joking, but I ain't!)

5 posted on 10/24/2010 5:33:06 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-abortion atheist, conservative Bostonian)
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To: libstripper

“One of the most famous things Saul Alinsky did was—when O’Hare Airport wasn’t hiring African-Americans—he held the ‘shit-in,’ “ said Perlstein. “They waited until the big planes were getting in then monopolized the toilets. I can’t see Barack Obama doing that.”

Obama has been taking a dump on America since he “became” a “citizen”. Next Tuesday is payback day to all these A$$ Holes, and I’m backed up enough for years of flushing.


6 posted on 10/24/2010 5:38:53 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Moose4

I participated in a “get out the vote” effort yesterday. The one thing I noticed was, that it’s the left out there who are rude, arrogant and angry! Somehow I thought this only happened on TV and in the cities, not small town Warren County, NJ.

The rest for the most part were either polite or in a friggin coma! Blank stare, in dire need of coffee. The coherent ones are also chomping at the bit to vote and are very concerned with the direction of this country.


7 posted on 10/24/2010 5:40:12 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: Moose4

if you ever listened to randi rhodes for 5 minutes that is exactly the conclusion you would come away with. We are not fellow citizens, were apes.

But on wed after the elections, she will be screeching


8 posted on 10/24/2010 5:41:36 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Moose4; All

Their world view is entirely different than conservatives. They believe that socialism works. They do not believe that capitalism works. They have to come up with a bunch of conspiracy theories to explain why the world does not agree with their world view.

It is very hard to obtain solutions that work from premises that are false.


9 posted on 10/24/2010 5:41:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: libstripper

“A Macro-Micro Model of Participation in Political Action: The Tea Party and Cognitive Biases in Information Consumption and Processing.”

Ooooooh! I wanna go to that one!!


10 posted on 10/24/2010 5:43:10 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: libstripper
"I wonder if we're likely to see a Timothy McVeigh situation," says Nicholas Robert, an attendee originally from Australia, who basically wonders if any Tea Partiers can be arrested. "It seems to be that we're being very polite. I wonder if there are any legal mechanisms—one that comes to mind are the provisions used to crush the Wobblies."

Ah, the classic reaction of Leftists when their power is threatened; kill the opposition.

11 posted on 10/24/2010 5:45:26 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Westbrook

From the article;

“One of the most famous things Saul Alinsky did was—when O’Hare Airport wasn’t hiring African-Americans—he held the ‘shit-in,’ “ said Perlstein. “They waited until the big planes were getting in then monopolized the toilets. I can’t see Barack Obama doing that.”


12 posted on 10/24/2010 5:45:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Moose4

Also from the article;

“The feeling thermometer scale goes from 0 to 100,” says Abramowitz, pointing to a chart with a collapsing line. “Over time, you can see that Democratic presidential candidates getting less and less. By the last time period, you can see that the average rating is around 27 degrees. That’s downright freezing.”

WTF???


13 posted on 10/24/2010 5:52:19 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Gadsden1st
Since O'Hare airport didn't really get started until 1962 with the transfer of domestic flights from Midway, I suspect the speaker meant Midway and not O'Hare.

Conditions haven't changed all that much so I doubt people then noticed any deviation from normal.

It's never surprising when you find "60's radicals" who can't really recall where they were "way back then" particularly if they went to Woodstock and bought some of the LSD laced MJ "sticks". Some of those people will never get that out of their systems.

14 posted on 10/24/2010 5:55:51 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

thanks for your service -regarding the vote.


15 posted on 10/24/2010 5:59:05 AM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“WTF???”

Obviously, you’re not an academic!


16 posted on 10/24/2010 6:00:02 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

And another from the article. And it’s amazing!

“I wonder if we’re likely to see a Timothy McVeigh situation,” says Nicholas Robert, an attendee originally from Australia, who basically wonders if any Tea Partiers can be arrested. “It seems to be that we’re being very polite. I wonder if there are any legal mechanisms—one that comes to mind are the provisions used to crush the Wobblies.”


17 posted on 10/24/2010 6:01:54 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 6SJ7
Nicholas Robert sounds like he's making threats. I'll add him to the list
18 posted on 10/24/2010 6:11:01 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: libstripper

“You’re not allowed to just say no to everything the president wants,”


an attendee originally from Australia, who basically wonders if any Tea Partiers can be arrested.

“The thing that makes America different, and this is a very dialectical, paradoxical concept, is that we have a lot of democracy,” he says. “The idea that everyone has an opinion of about what they’re hearing is both the glory and the tragedy of American democracy.”
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Less democracy, aka: citizen participation

No dissent allowed.

Use of police coercion.

Of course, it’s not fascist when the left does it.

They have a total blindness to individual liberty. They rant about using laws to create handouts and institutions that they seem to think cater to personal self-interest all the while being incapable of understanding anyone who would turn down dependency in favor of self-reliance.

No wonder they are losing. They do not understand basic human drives and when confronted by them, they deny that they can exist.

So, can we assume that the progressives are driven only by self-interest, have a fear of democracy and can be controlled by threats of police coercion? Or do they see themselves above all that while assuming that the experimental subjects will respond positively to such actions?

Total cognitive dissonance is truly a mental disorder.


19 posted on 10/24/2010 6:13:17 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reefdiver
"if you ever listened to randi rhodes for 5 minutes that is exactly the conclusion you would come away with. We are not fellow citizens, we're apes."

We would all be wise to remember that. Etch those words in stone. They're well into the process of "dehumanizing" us. When we're seen as "not them," intellectually and, therefore, genetically inferior, it becomes easier to implement policies of extermination. It's a coup de'etat. You're living through one. Remember in November.
20 posted on 10/24/2010 6:14:56 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Darkwolf377

“Thus, the Tea partiers are obviously a racist cabal rising up to stop progress and return us to a slave state.”
Hi Darkwolf377!
Your comment reminded me of something. I work with some very liberal leaning people. They equate everything said in a conservative tone to racism. A woman responded to my Facebook comment to a “friend” that my perception of Muslims was wrong. I had stated that Juan Williams got a bum rap over his comments and that NPR was out of line to fire him. I also said that Williams vocalized what most Americans feel when they see a Muslim or even hear a Muslim sounding name. The woman jumped all over it, accusing me , politely of course, of lumping all Muslims in the same terrorist boat and that she knew a Muslim family who were so against the terrorist activities of those who share they faith. She also cited the KKK and insisted that she, as a black woman, did not consider all whites accomplices in this organization. She also said that in the days of Jim Crow laws, the KKK killed whole black families and you didn’t hear black people on TV insisting that all white people were racists. Therefore, she ( naturally reasonable, calm, and righteous) was very worried about a Republican win on Nov.2 because the racist momentum will take hold. I am wondering if this woman would take her critiques back if Bubba and his buddies hung out around the airport in their Dodge pick ups and then boarded a plane she was on in their white robes. Would she get a chill up her spine the next time she heard the roar of a truck engine? Undoubtedly she would. Because Williams reaction was visceral and so would her’s be.


21 posted on 10/24/2010 6:26:29 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: libstripper

“If you look across the board here, true skeptics of the Tea Party, 49 percent agreed with the proposition that blacks ought to work their way up without any special favors,” says Parker. “But if you look at the true believers, that goes to 92 percent. This is another indicator of racism, right: Over the past few years, blacks have gotten less than they deserve. Forty-five percent of true skeptics disagree with this; almost 80 percent of true believers disagree with this.”

What an incredibly jaded outlook on life. The notion that people should work for what they get is an alien concept to these dopes.

I guess they’ve never been to a public housing project...


22 posted on 10/24/2010 6:27:17 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: marktwain

Yes. Karl Marx was a fantasist. He made up words for things that do not exist. His terms are poetic, not scientific. Over a hundred years of Leftist academic nonsense has been directed at destroying free enterprise because these jackasses think it’s unfair. They proceed from idiotic assumptions. Smart people who believe in that the world is moved by a Marxian ex machina. The Berkeley meeting had the feel of a Marxist revival meeting. They are insane.


23 posted on 10/24/2010 6:40:16 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: libstripper
The hardcore left is afraid, and feeling outmaneuvered--a new experience given the fecklessness of the Right historically since Reagan. Their refuge is to intellectualize their denial, and treat the movement like a clinical phenomenon. They don't want to understand. They want to hate, and possibly kill. That's what the left is all about.
24 posted on 10/24/2010 6:50:00 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

The Left arrive on the inevitable Socialist Abbatoir’s killing-floor, and suddenly realize that they’re the “whom”, as it were, in Lenin’s crystal-clear demarcation. There are no winners in socialism - just temporary survivors.

See tagline.


25 posted on 10/24/2010 6:57:40 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: reformedliberal
They do not understand basic human drives and when confronted by them, they deny that they can exist.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem with leftism. It denies human nature, and it is contrary to Biblical standards, as well.

That's why their only successful "argument" is killing people who disagree with them.

26 posted on 10/24/2010 7:09:52 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: libstripper

Their biggest problem is do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do hypocracy. With one cheek they work to free those who they believe are wrongfully imprisoned, with the other (as stated at the end of this article) they look for a was to imprison those who disagree with them. I can give thousands of examples of this type of behavior. Maybe the real problem is that we are not as dumb as they thought, or better still, maybe they are not as smart as they thought.


27 posted on 10/24/2010 7:28:57 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: libstripper
On Friday morning we file in for the conference. Just outside are giant tubs of coffee and tea, and abstracts for papers that are in progress or completed.

Prospects for an American Neofascism. Initially the project would consist of a review of recent research on American right wing groups (including the Tea Party movement, the Minutemen, and the Christian right)

The Left wants to nationalize industry, shut down the political speech of our opponents, regulate all aspects of business and private life, and rule into perpetuity. Because you're a bunch a fascists.

Ironic paper is ironic.

28 posted on 10/24/2010 7:39:46 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Moose4
“Tea Party experts”...these morons treat us like they’re Jane Goodall and we’re the apes.

I was thinking more like THEY are the apes in "2001" seeing the big monolith in the savannah and having no ability whatsoever to coneive the vastly higher intelligence behind it.

29 posted on 10/24/2010 7:42:11 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: libstripper

Almost a year later, when Limbaugh was rushed to the hospital with chest pains, Washington Post reporter David Weigel had a wish of his own. “I hope he fails,” Weigel cracked to fellow liberal reporters on the “Journolist” email list sev.


30 posted on 10/24/2010 7:43:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Darkwolf377

Bingo. From National Review the other day:

“we see the common conflation of “anti-illegal-immigration” and “anti-immigrant,” the belief that welfare reform was essentially anti-black, and the reduction of concerns about Islamism to a kind of phobia. Conservatives’ ostensible reasons and supporting facts are dismissed without consideration, because it is presumed that those reasons and facts aren’t what really motivate them.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/250660/psychoanalytic-politics-matthew-shaffer


31 posted on 10/24/2010 7:46:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: sueuprising

Williams was penalized for expressing his emotional reaction. In this society, people are so quick to scream “Racist!” because that way they feel like superheroes who’ve sniffed out one of the worst kinds of people.

What that does, though, is drive underground any honest discussion of racist feelings. Note I said FEELINGS. We cannot help it if certain feelings were bred in us as children that then follow us into adulthood. Whether by parents, other adults, or friends trying to act cool and edgy, racist thoughts are pounded into us before we’re old enough to sort them out for ourselves.

In order to deal with this, people who HAVE these feelings are the FIRST ones to scream “RACIST!” about someone else—thus, they are the heroes, and of course THEY aren’t racists, they’re the ones who called someone else out on that.

What we need to do is to be honest about, again, feelings. This is what Williams basically said: I have these feelings, but we need to use our minds and tell ourselves that’s all these are, feelings, and assert our intelligence and reason them out.

When I was young I had all kinds of racist feelings, but then I learned what I just wrote above, and guess what? I wasn’t afraid of feeling them, so I didn’t squash them down. I admitted to myself I was feeling them, and then I relaxed and thought, “Just treat these people as you would anyone else, be careful around strangers but these ones are no different from ones that look just like you.”

But NPR and all the libs are full of crap when they say they want “dialogue” about race. They don’t want to have a discussion like you and I are having now, they just want to say “You can’t be racist or you’re evil, now don’t SAY anything or else.” And those minor feelings that could evaporate with logic are now pushed down, people resent being dishonest, and those feelings emerge more powerful than ever—thus, the liberals are helping perpetuate racist feelings.

Now, why might THAT be?

Exhibit A: Al Sharpton

I think you know where I’m heading, and we’ll leave it at that.


32 posted on 10/24/2010 7:52:46 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-abortion atheist, conservative Bostonian)
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To: libstripper

Conference:

9:00 - 9:15 am            Welcome and Introduction of Key Note Speaker

Lawrence Rosenthal, Executive Director, Center for the Comparative Study of Right-Wing Movements, Institute for the Study of Societal Issues, University of California, Berkeley

9:15 - 10:30 am           Keynote Address “The Tea Parties Now”

Rick Perlstein, Journalist and Author of Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America and Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of American Consensus


33 posted on 10/24/2010 8:04:39 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Eric S. “Rick” Perlstein (born 1969) is an American historian and journalist. He graduated from the University of Chicago with a B.A. in History in 1992, and did graduate work in American Studies at the University of Michigan. He is a former writer for The Village Voice and The New Republic and the author of numerous articles in other publications. Until March, 2009 he was a Senior Fellow at the Campaign for America’s Future where he wrote for their blog about the failures of conservative governance.


34 posted on 10/24/2010 8:06:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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Executive Director And Lead Researcher

Dr. Lawrence Rosenthal is Executive Director and Lead Researcher of the Center for the Comparative Study of Right-Wing Movements. He was a Visiting Scholar at the Institute for the Study of Social Change for a dozen years before founding the Center in 2009. He has taught at UC Berkeley in the Sociology and Italian Studies Departments and was a Fulbright Professor at the University of Naples in Italy.  He has studied the Right in the United States and in Italy and is currently working on a study of the contemporary American Right in comparison to movements of the Right in 20th century Europe.


35 posted on 10/24/2010 8:10:07 AM PDT by kcvl
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Turn Right at Berkeley

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/books/26righ.html

Rosenthal, Lawrence
BERKELEY, CA
94707 Vello Corp/Executive $1,000 10/18/2008 G OBAMA FOR AMERICA - Democrat


36 posted on 10/24/2010 8:18:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: sueuprising

That’s awfully nice of the woman not to blame all whites because of the actions of other whites. And next time she brings up the KKK, and Jim Crow, give her all the syrupy sympathy you can. Agree with her that there were evil things happening to blacks: The KKK, lynchings, Jim Crow laws, Selma Alabama, Bull Connor, forced segregation, to name a few. And remind her, in a nice, loving way, that the people involved in the terrible treatment of blacks were STINKING RACIST DEMOCRATS!


37 posted on 10/24/2010 8:25:54 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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To: sueuprising
Just struck me that they didn't have TV back in the 1920s when the KKK was at its high water mark. So no wonder your black friend never saw blacks on TV back then railing at white people. Didn't mean they weren't! Fur shur they weren't doing it on TV.

Remember, for some people history began the day they were born ~

38 posted on 10/24/2010 8:36:44 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: libstripper

Just another bunch of out-to-lunch radical leftists who are disappointed that Obama didn’t create American soviets right off the bat and sing The Internationale at his inauguration while he waved Mao’s little red book. A more out of touch, anti-American mob of losers you probably couldn’t find anywhere else.


39 posted on 10/24/2010 8:38:06 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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