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‘Illegals’ medical bills top $35.7M (in MA)
www.bostonherald.com ^ | Wednesday, October 27, 2010 | Jessica Van Sack

Posted on 10/26/2010 9:28:29 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA

Beleaguered Bay State and U.S. taxpayers coughed up a staggering $35.7 million this year in free emergency health care for more than 52,000 illegal aliens in Massachusetts, sparking outrage from candidates and critics who back a tougher line on immigration.

The figures — released by Gov. Deval Patrick’s administration under an order for the Secretary of State’s office and after more than a month of ducking questions — show illegal immigrants who belong to MassHealth Limited received $33.8 million in taxpayer-funded in-patient hospital care this year.

They also made 6,160 visits to the state’s overburdened emergency rooms in the fiscal year ending in June for an additional cost of $1.9 million, a Herald analysis shows.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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Can I be an illegal alien? PLEASE???
1 posted on 10/26/2010 9:28:33 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: GOPsterinMA

Honestly I thought it would have been a lot more.


2 posted on 10/26/2010 9:33:40 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: GOPsterinMA

Amateurs. Here in mexifornia, we’re in the billions.


3 posted on 10/26/2010 9:35:37 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: earlJam

Me too. I suspect cooked books. This is WAY too low.


4 posted on 10/26/2010 9:39:08 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: max americana

Sad what’s happened to “Reagan Country”.


5 posted on 10/26/2010 9:39:58 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
[ Me too. I suspect cooked books. This is WAY too low. ]

Wouldnt want to freak out those Barney Frank voters with real numbers..
They might go T-P Caucus on them.. I mean more than already are..

The T-P Caucus is growing daily weekly monthly..
It Must crawl Patricks nape..

6 posted on 10/26/2010 9:50:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

We’ll see in a week.


7 posted on 10/26/2010 9:57:39 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; AuntB; Nachum; blackie; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead
Sad what’s happened to “Reagan Country”.

Arizona replaces controversial signs warning residents of illegal drug activity

Photo on website

Arizona signs confirming that drug and human smuggling activity was taking place well inside the Arizona border have received a face lift and now offer campers and hikers different information when they travel to the Arizona public land regions.

The new sign now reads, “Visitor Information Update- active federal law enforcement patrol area, clean-up and restoration crews at work, contact BLM rangers for current area status.” In smaller print in the lower left-hand side of the sign provides the Bureau of Land Management district office phone number and encourages residents to call 911 for emergency.

8 posted on 10/26/2010 9:59:57 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: GOPsterinMA
That kind of bill is less than what we pay in California daily.
Lets not forget the 15k a year to teach their non-graduating children.
In California they have state approved baby sitters who get paid $600 a month per child to babysit while the parents don't go to work.
All the kids can mostly get near free medical and their parents stick the state citizens for well over 10 billion a year IMO.
9 posted on 10/26/2010 10:05:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Why the fghijk don’t illegals use an Urgent Care or Take Care clinic at a drugstore when the doctor’s office is closed, like the rest of us?? It’s waaaay cheaper... E.R.’s are for LIFE AND DEATH care!!


10 posted on 10/26/2010 10:10:54 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: earlJam
The figures show 69 percent of the state’s MassHealth Limited subscribers are illegal immigrants. The state is projected to pay $13.7 million of the cost of the health-care program this year, while federal Medicaid picks up the other $22 million.

Keep this in mind, their anchor babies are counted as American citizens.

11 posted on 10/26/2010 10:13:30 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6zv8kiNmb4

Illegal-immigrant driver roll call
Howie Carr has a frequent segment in which those traffic violators with Hispanic names are read from police blotters. The name of the offender is read in an exaggerated Spanish-accented English, along with the offender’s traffic violation, typically including driving without a valid license, driving without proof of insurance, and/or driving without valid registration. After each name is read, the first few bars of “La Cucaracha” is played in a car-horn rendition. The segment is usually bookended around Carr’s opinions on the dangers of illegal immigrants. The segment was introduced in August 2006, when the question of in-state drivers’ licenses for illegal immigrants was a controversial issue among Massachusetts gubernatorial candidates.


12 posted on 10/26/2010 10:16:01 PM PDT by bitt ( Charles Krauthammer: "There's desperation, and then there's reptilian desperation, ..")
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To: GOPsterinMA

Meanwhile, Greta and FOX news continue to push amnesty.

Tonight, she agreed wholeheartedly with Napolitano that nothing more can be with enforcement until Congress passes comprehensive immigration reform.

Angle gets called a b**** for raising illegal immigration as an issue.

The entire media is trying to discredit the anti-amnesty, pro-enforcement position.


13 posted on 10/26/2010 10:20:28 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 10/26/2010 10:20:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Reddy
Why the fghijk don’t illegals use an Urgent Care or Take Care clinic at a drugstore when the doctor’s office is closed, like the rest of us?? It’s waaaay cheaper... E.R.’s are for LIFE AND DEATH care!!

Because, "It free" at E.R.'s. Illegals are the biggest cause of our health care cost increase. Every time one of them goes for free care, that bill is added onto a paying patients bill. They don't want to pay for anything. The carpet mills in Dalton, Georgia, offered insurance to every employee, legal or not. The illegals wouldn't take it because medical care was free at the E.R.'s. The mills didn't mind. It's less money out of their pockets. This amounted to Americans picking up part of the cost of doing business for the mills.

15 posted on 10/26/2010 10:24:36 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

The national suicide continues...


16 posted on 10/26/2010 10:45:46 PM PDT by random_user_827 ((b) use DHCP to automatically assign IP addresses to hosts)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Take the needed moneies form the State employee widows fund.


17 posted on 10/26/2010 11:42:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: nbenyo

On the other hand, Palin seems to be toughening up on the issue. In her latest Facebook posting she takes Murkowski to task for having supported amnesty. Wouldn’t that have been McAmnesty?


18 posted on 10/27/2010 12:46:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GOPsterinMA

They also made 6,160 visits to the state’s overburdened emergency rooms in the fiscal year ending in June for an additional cost of $1.9 million, a Herald analysis shows.
A little over $300 per visit? I call bull on that number.


19 posted on 10/27/2010 2:11:00 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: bitt

Didn’t you know?

America is the land of the FREEBIE!

Yes, LEGAL citizens will pay your way!

In fact, if you are ILLEGAL, you need to VOTE too!


20 posted on 10/27/2010 3:27:18 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“State and U.S. taxpayers coughed up a staggering $35.7 million this year in free emergency health care for more than 52,000 illegal aliens in Massachusetts...”

Way to go Mitt Romney! Woo Hoo! What? You say you’re a conservative? Oh...okay. I’ll take your word for it...NOT!


21 posted on 10/27/2010 3:40:02 AM PDT by Gum Shoe (You live to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: Razz Barry

The “free ERs” have been closing in CA and here in NJ as well. As the states cut reimbursements for these services, the hospitals went into the red; as a result, they’ve been closing their emergency rooms while still operating the hospital itself. You bet you ass when you show up there, you have an appointment and the means to pay (at least a real name & address).


22 posted on 10/27/2010 3:44:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: wiggen

“A little over $300 per visit? I call bull on that number.”

Not everyone has MINOR medical problems.

Gun shot wounds, stabbings, car accidents - all these are over #300 a visit. If we didn’t ALLOW ILLEGALS to be here, the amount would be lower. Some states are wanting ILLEGALS to VOTE.


23 posted on 10/27/2010 3:57:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: hosepipe

It will be higher. The government won’t tell the truth on this.

“Incorporating illegal immigrants into any type of government-sponsored health care is legitimizing their presence here,’’ said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, which favors stricter immigration policies. “It’s a kind of piecemeal amnesty.’’

Added state Rep. Robert Hedlund (R-Weymouth), “It’s just another example in this state of working people paying the bills, and some people availing themselves of the benefits we have in the commonwealth.’’

...

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20101027illegals_medical_bills_top_357m_taxpayers_hit_hard_for_trips_to_er/srvc=home&position=1


24 posted on 10/27/2010 4:00:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nbenyo

Someone needs to give Greta the BILL for this.

She needs to put her money where her bleeding heart is. If she wouud, she’d change her tune. WHERE is HER “compassion” for those who GET THE BILL and dind’t INCUR IT?


25 posted on 10/27/2010 4:01:57 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wiggen
A little over $300 per visit? I call bull on that number.

No kidding.
Probably what the hospital recoups from the gov. The rest of the bill is added to the other paying patients.
That wouldn't even cover the triage nurse's assessment.
An x-ray would cost thousands. Then there is the separate bill from the hospitalist, radiologist, orthopedic Dr.
You couldn't get a stitch for $300.

26 posted on 10/27/2010 4:03:47 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Here in Queens, New York at least 4 hospitals, three of them Catholic, have closed within the last several years because illegals were using them for primary health care. Couple this with their failure to pay hospital bills by using false IDs and giving phony names and addresses and you can see one of the immediate effects of illegal immigration. That three of these hospitals were Catholic is not surprising since they are the primary choice of Hispanic illegals when seeking health care.


27 posted on 10/27/2010 4:20:15 AM PDT by Larry381
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To: nmh

Those major things run into the thousands. If they are fudging numbers its a major scandal. It would not surprise me if they are doing so this close to the election.


28 posted on 10/27/2010 4:37:38 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Vinnie

As i just replied to someone else,if they are making up numbers then it will be a scandal of major porportions. Where are the intrepid reporters investigating this? Maybe Dervals opponent should call him out on that number.


29 posted on 10/27/2010 4:40:10 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

If they can identify them with that precision, why hasn’t ICE been notified and the illegals deported? MA is a sanctuary state.


30 posted on 10/27/2010 4:53:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Liz; Fee; AuntB; Willie Green; GOPsterinMA; Extremely Extreme Extremist; fieldmarshaldj; ...

Illegal aliens just run up government deficits that Americans won’t run up.


31 posted on 10/27/2010 4:56:16 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit.)
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To: nbenyo

Political correctness is crippling the nation.


32 posted on 10/27/2010 4:58:46 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Palin supports amnesty. Palin Univision interview on amnesty

The amnesty supporters don't call it the "A" word. Instead, it is called an earned path to citizenship, i.e., pay a fine, learn English, and get to the back of the line. The reason they don't use the "A" word is that the American people are against it.

33 posted on 10/27/2010 5:01:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

You can’t count an interview when she was McCain’s running mate, but I agree her position earlier this year was weak. I think she’s getting better on it the more she hangs with the tea party crowd.


34 posted on 10/27/2010 5:06:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

She endorsed McCain over JD. And McCain has not changed his stance on amnesty. Now he calls it “regularization of status.” Palin’s association with McCain and her stance on amnesty will hurt her future political ambitions.


35 posted on 10/27/2010 5:58:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: random_user_827

Perfectly, perfectly stated.


36 posted on 10/27/2010 6:02:13 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: kabar

It’s an old story now, but I was dismayed by her support for McCain, too. And I agree, he’s changed his rhetoric, not his position.

Again, my sense is that she’s toughening on immigration, but I expect we’ll know better by the spring when/if she launches her campaign.


37 posted on 10/27/2010 6:21:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: kabar

Fantastic point!!!


38 posted on 10/27/2010 7:46:22 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: Larry381

“That three of these hospitals were Catholic is not surprising since they are the primary choice of Hispanic illegals when seeking health care.”

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school K thru 8 and was an alter boy for 3 years.

I am sick to death of the Catholic do-gooders. Let the illegals live in your houses, schmucks.


39 posted on 10/27/2010 7:49:51 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: Gum Shoe
That's why people that get apoplectic about Mittens becoming president are out of their collective minds.

No way, no way will that ever happen. Just the word “RomneyCare” dooms him to the ash bin of would be contenders.

40 posted on 10/27/2010 7:52:53 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: bitt; Clintonfatigued; wiggen; NoLibZone; nbenyo; Reddy; A CA Guy; MamaDearest
The horror stories about illegals (and not just Hispanics, btw) that I get from my contacts in law enforcement are hair raising - it's one of the main reasons I went through the process to get a CCW permit in MA and have armed myself.

They essentially have carte blanche to do whatever they want without consequence, all while collecting a check(s), courtesy of the American taxpayer.

Illegal Immigration is issue #1 to me. Think about it, it is effecting everything: national sovereignty, culture, national security, economics. It MUST be stopped and reversed. And we know, it can be done. Now, who has the balls to do it? At some point, when the government doesn't do it's job, the people will.

41 posted on 10/27/2010 8:04:06 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

It will be the number issue in 2012. As you say,it affects everything. The govt can’t ask someone to accept less of anything if they’re letting illegals get annything at all for free.


42 posted on 10/27/2010 8:49:14 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

“It will be the number issue in 2012.”

God, I hope you are right!!!


43 posted on 10/27/2010 9:05:27 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: bitt
I live in Philly. And until seven days ago worked at a Home Depot deep in the heart of socialism land. For over four years I often asked myself as I worked each day...am I living in America or south of the border or in Eastern Europe or somewhere.
If I could have a US dollar for the number of times I heard nothing but non-English being yapped about by tons of customers streaming into that store I would be a billionare at this point. Often as these people would be say ripping open a large Circuit Breaker Box open and taking the stuff out of the box to examine it... I would walk up... How can I help you? They stare.... I ask again... sometime they just would stand up and leave...other times they would hand signal they don't speak English.
It was a living nightmare for to long. Of course I'm the guy that had to try to retape the box for resell. If I just had the bucks lost per year in the Electrical Dept. at this location, I would be a millionare over at this point.
The problem is so obvious in so many ways to so many people yet the assholes at all levels, State and Fed continue to let these people stream in and then obtain free health care and a host of other benefits. Yes I finally quite the damn Home Depot. The above was easily fifty percent of the reason I finally got the balls to just leave. I hated the damn place.
In my area especially where I had worked. Yes more and more I noticed trucks being pulled over by police. And you can guess the type of folks that would be sitting on the curbs awaiting their fate. I can only remotely imagine how bad it must be in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and southern Cali..
44 posted on 10/27/2010 7:33:43 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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Thanks bitt.


45 posted on 10/27/2010 7:54:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: NoLibZone; ExTexasRedhead

“Take the needed moneies from the State employee widows fund.”

an EXCELLENT idea!

If the state and fed employees have no interest in enforcing the laws that are on the books, transfer the costs of the programs they DON’T supervise to their pensions! HA! Bet they’s suddenly see the light!


46 posted on 10/27/2010 10:26:49 PM PDT by bitt ( Charles Krauthammer: "There's desperation, and then there's reptilian desperation, ..")
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To: GOPsterinMA

I have insurance and I still get bills like I have none.


47 posted on 10/28/2010 5:11:55 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Oh yes, I know that feeling. You probably have/had high co-pays too, right? And still got bills for everything, right?

It's akin to going to a restaurant, eating, and getting a check where they not only bill you for the meal, but also the salt, pepper, napkin, glass of water and utensil use. Disgusting. Why bother having insurance - it covers nothing.

I had Aetna, which I was told was the 2nd worst health insurance carrier out there (the first being Harvard Pilgrim - great job, Charlie Baker). In fact, the physical therapy clinic I went to described both carriers as “scumbags” (their term, not mine).

But take comfort in that if a person floats here on a door or walks across a “virtual fence” to illegally enter the good ole USA, everything’s free! No bills for them!!!

48 posted on 10/28/2010 6:35:47 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I use United HC and try calling them it is a call center overseas. It guts my pay and then they seem to look like they pay but it is like the hospital is tripling costs and I have yet to get the anesthesia bill. I cannot afford it anymore.
49 posted on 10/28/2010 8:31:45 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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