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California Nightmare-in'
The American Thinker ^ | October 27, 2010 | Sally Zelikovsky

Posted on 10/27/2010 12:21:48 AM PDT by Scanian

It's November 3, 2010. You think you are waking up to a sunny California morning only to realize it's a dark, dark day. Jerry Brown is governor, Gavin Newsom is lieutenant governor, Kamala Harris is attorney general, and the rest of the Democrat ticket has prevailed. California is going to be controlled by San Francisco politics.

Got your attention now?

Tea Party folks have brought a refreshing candor to the conservative scene, demanding from conservative candidates a return to conservative principles. But we don't live in a perfect world. And in California, we live in a deeply skewed political landscape that requires finesse and strategic thinking to turn California red again. It cannot happen overnight, and those who try to make it happen today rather than tomorrow will be responsible for the worst-case, but not unlikely, nightmare scenario outlined above.

Many Tea Partiers aren't happy with the Republican choices for certain offices and are pushing voters to cast their ballots for last-minute conservative candidates who, they believe, more readily pass the conservative sniff test than some of their Republican counterparts. Admittedly, some of them just might be more conservative.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bayareapatriots; bluestate; brown; ca2010; cagop; conservativescantwin; cooley; democrats; diannelenning; electthemoderates; gavinnewsom; karenengland; maldonado; megwhitman; newsom; pragmatism; rinos; rinoscanwin; sallyzelikovsky; sanfranciscovalues; stevecooley; teaparty; tinysteps; voterino
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To: NoLibZone

Not with a T-Party House. Starve them out.


21 posted on 10/27/2010 3:11:46 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: screaminsunshine

Unfortunately, California will either bring down the US or cause enough problems that we might as well be Cuba...


22 posted on 10/27/2010 3:18:45 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

They are too deep in the socialist death spiral to pull out. Epic fail will have to occur.


23 posted on 10/27/2010 3:26:02 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: screaminsunshine

Well, just realize that if California fails, the US fails. They are too big of a part of the US that their failure can be taken lightly. Either we bail them out (more debt) or we become bankrupt as a nation.

California needs a Chris Cristie to save them but I doubt that anyone like him would have a chance there... The California legislature is still running in the 70’s with no relief in sight...


24 posted on 10/27/2010 3:35:07 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Scanian

bflr


25 posted on 10/27/2010 3:37:47 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Scanian

How can anyone have any sympathy for anyone in California. The majority has destroyed their own state and expect the government to protect them from everything from cockroach abuse to skinned knees on their children.

They make their bed and now lay in it to sleep.

California has gone far beyond the “tipping point” and will not return to normal. The best thing to do with California is to surgically remove it from the continental US and try to treat the cancer of liberalism that has infected the rest of the states as a result of the cancerous tumor called California.


26 posted on 10/27/2010 4:42:54 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything, it begins to rot.)
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To: DH; Deagle
The best thing to do with California is to surgically remove it from the continental US and try to treat the cancer of liberalism that has infected the rest of the states as a result of the cancerous tumor called California.

Ah good thinking! California receives $0.70 on the dollar for its tax revenue. Cut us off, and we're solvent! Of course, there will be an immediate tariff on all goods coming out of LA/Long Beach, so we'll be rolling in dough while the rest of the US sinks without the cash flow.

Great plan!

27 posted on 10/27/2010 7:54:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You need to get over yourself - you and all other Californians!

You have been living way beyond your means for decades and the piper has finally calling. It is time for your government to step up and cut spending (including most of all excessive government and their pensions). You either will help this happen or you will be part of the problem when California declares bankruptcy.

I do NOT want to support you and your overpaid union help nor do I want to allow you to continue your spending ways. You should be barred from ever borrowing again until your finances are in order.

When you do this, then get back to the Federal Government asking for help (again). Call Cristi if you need help!


28 posted on 10/27/2010 8:13:27 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle
You have been living way beyond your means for decades and the piper has finally calling.

Not as much as Montana or the Dakotas.

It is time for your government to step up and cut spending (including most of all excessive government and their pensions). You either will help this happen or you will be part of the problem when California declares bankruptcy.

Well DUH genius. I could say that about almost every government in the US.

I do NOT want to support you and your overpaid union help nor do I want to allow you to continue your spending ways.

I don't want you to either. But stop pretending that this State doesn't carry its weight, when it has and more for over a century. The East in particular has been milking the Western States for nearly ever, while precluding us from developing many of our resources in order to prop up their markets. Why do you think that it only the Western half of the content dominated by "Federal lands"? It was security for Federal debt being racked up by Eastern States!

When you do this, then get back to the Federal Government asking for help (again). Call Cristi if you need help!

When I need advice from stupid FReepers like you, I'll let you know.

29 posted on 10/27/2010 8:45:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Hmmm... Sound like a Californian!


30 posted on 10/27/2010 8:46:41 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Carry_Okie

Actually,

Montana and North or South Dakota do not nearly have the debt that California has (future pensions etc.).

“Well DUH genius. I could say that about almost every government in the US.”

Boy are you right! Unfortunately California leads the way and until you as a citizen recognize that, things will never change. Yes, there are other States in trouble but their legislatures are attempting to solve the problem by cutting expenses. Can’t say the same for California.

“But stop pretending that this State doesn’t carry its weight, when it has and more for over a century. The East in particular has been milking the Western States for nearly ever, while precluding us from developing many of our resources in order to prop up their markets. Why do you think that it only the Western half of the content dominated by “Federal lands”? It was security for Federal debt being racked up by Eastern States!”

Can’t disagree with most of this. Seems that the Federal Government is much to blame here...but the local government has to finally be serious about cutting their spending.

You still need a Chris Cristi to help you with the budget.


31 posted on 10/27/2010 8:57:51 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Carry_Okie

“California receives $0.70 on the dollar for its tax revenue. Cut us off, and we’re solvent!”

Seventy cents on 100 cents is a good thing??????? Wow! 70% of every dollar is taxed to support your liberal cause????

Furthermore, I would suggest that you attend a school in a less liberal state so that you could be able to calculate that a 70% tax is not adding to any type of solvency. Also, while at that school take geography so that you can be aware that there are two other major ports in two different states on the Pacific coast that handles shipping.


32 posted on 10/27/2010 9:10:16 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything, it begins to rot.)
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To: Scanian

Many here have come to expect the worst from the voters here... and we usually are not surprised when we see maroons masquerading as voters return the same idiots that drove this state into the weeds returned to office over and over again.

ask unions why that happens.. oh, and the courts too.


33 posted on 10/27/2010 9:23:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Scanian

I suppose there’s truth to the idea, that you cannot “deprogram” the heavily brainwashed Kaifornians overnight.

But I’m sure having RINOS running the deprogramming, isn’t going to work either.


34 posted on 10/27/2010 9:31:42 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: DH
Seventy cents on 100 cents is a good thing??????? Wow! 70% of every dollar is taxed to support your liberal cause????

California is a state in which the wages are relatively high. That means we pay a disproportionate amount of INCOME TAXES. For every dollar of taxes Californians pay to the feds, $0.70 comes back as Federal expenditures.

Got it now? Good grief.

As to whether I'm a liberal, not only did you not read what I wrote, but you've apparently missed the many original articles I've posted here on FR over the last ten years, all of which were quite well received. So, you are both stupid, and too lazy to have done a simple article search on me.

So, why should I listen to you?

35 posted on 10/27/2010 10:15:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Deagle
Montana and North or South Dakota do not nearly have the debt that California has (future pensions etc.).

No, what I said was that, as States, they are welfare queens for Federal money.

Boy are you right! Unfortunately California leads the way and until you as a citizen recognize that, things will never change.

CCG, can you please explain to me why this site has become so infested with such lazy loudmouths who can't even check out the person to whom they're posting?

You still need a Chris Cristi to help you with the budget.

We HAVE one. His name is Tom McClintock. Had he run alone against Cruz Bustamante in the recall of 2002, Gallup said he would have won. Instead, the RINOs set up by Carl Rove put up Schwarzenegger, and the rest is history.

Thank you Texas. You were saying?

36 posted on 10/27/2010 10:20:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: calcowgirl
Sorry I meant to copy you on the above for your entertainment.
37 posted on 10/27/2010 10:21:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It’s okay to disagree without flaming (twice)... I don’t think that I used personal attacks against you - against the State of California yes... That’s okay, maybe that is a California thing... Have a good one...


38 posted on 10/27/2010 10:34:49 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle
I don’t think that I used personal attacks against you -

Bet me. Here is what you said,

Wow! 70% of every dollar is taxed to support your liberal cause????

My "liberal cause"? My ass. After 62 threads on FR in ten years, most of them original material, and after over 35,000 posts, you call me a liberal and you'll get it crammed down your throat.

I've done more to stem the tide in this State than just about anybody here, taking a hit on over $1.25 million in income in the process and spending over $150,000 cash out of pocket. So before flinging crap like that around, I suggest you check a poster's history and read a little more carefully.

39 posted on 10/27/2010 10:46:32 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Sorry, that was a generic liberal cause - not you specifically...


40 posted on 10/27/2010 10:51:37 AM PDT by Deagle
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