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California Nightmare-in'
The American Thinker ^ | October 27, 2010 | Sally Zelikovsky

Posted on 10/27/2010 12:21:48 AM PDT by Scanian

It's November 3, 2010. You think you are waking up to a sunny California morning only to realize it's a dark, dark day. Jerry Brown is governor, Gavin Newsom is lieutenant governor, Kamala Harris is attorney general, and the rest of the Democrat ticket has prevailed. California is going to be controlled by San Francisco politics.

Got your attention now?

Tea Party folks have brought a refreshing candor to the conservative scene, demanding from conservative candidates a return to conservative principles. But we don't live in a perfect world. And in California, we live in a deeply skewed political landscape that requires finesse and strategic thinking to turn California red again. It cannot happen overnight, and those who try to make it happen today rather than tomorrow will be responsible for the worst-case, but not unlikely, nightmare scenario outlined above.

Many Tea Partiers aren't happy with the Republican choices for certain offices and are pushing voters to cast their ballots for last-minute conservative candidates who, they believe, more readily pass the conservative sniff test than some of their Republican counterparts. Admittedly, some of them just might be more conservative.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bayareapatriots; bluestate; brown; ca2010; cagop; conservativescantwin; cooley; democrats; diannelenning; electthemoderates; gavinnewsom; karenengland; maldonado; megwhitman; newsom; pragmatism; rinos; rinoscanwin; sallyzelikovsky; sanfranciscovalues; stevecooley; teaparty; tinysteps; voterino
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Czar; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; CounterCounterCulture; NormsRevenge; ...
CCG, can you please explain to me why this site has become so infested with such lazy loudmouths who can't even check out the person to whom they're posting?

Nope.

It appears that "bash California" is just the fashionable thing to do, facts be damned. And if it means calling freepers names, misrepresenting their posts, or throwing out mindless (and untrue) accusations, it's just part of the game. It would help if some of these folks actually read what you posted, though.

You seem to be doing just fine setting the record straight, but I'll add a few:

States whose pension liability per capita is worse than California's: Minnesota, Wyoming, New Mexico, Hawaii, Colorado, Wisconsin, New Jersey, Illinois, Connecticut, Alaska, Ohio, Rhode Island (the last 4 being 35%-55% greater than CA)

States whose debt liability per capita is worse than California's: Rhode Island, Illinois, Washington, Delaware, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii,Massachusetts, Connecticut (the last 4 states listed have more than 2X the per capita debt as CA)

States whose Gross State Product ($Bil) per capita is less than California: All of them!

Maybe they will go play in another sandbox for a while.

The last infestation gave us Schwarzenegger as Governor.

41 posted on 10/27/2010 2:29:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl

Meant to post link for source:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/44/debt-10_Global-Debt-Crisis_Rank.html


42 posted on 10/27/2010 2:38:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: Carry_Okie; calcowgirl

Good Job CO! I’m 77, been retired 18 years and still pay more in Fed taxes then 80% of Texans...


43 posted on 10/27/2010 2:59:41 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: calcowgirl
Lets just hope the current infestation doesn't bring us Jerry Brown, the godfather of state employee unionization. Meg Whitman may well turn out to be another Arnold, but at least going in she has a chance to demonstrate she intends to do far better. Am I optimistic? No.
44 posted on 10/27/2010 4:42:55 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Czar

“.......Meg Whitman may well turn out to be another Arnold, but at least going in she has a chance to demonstrate she intends to do far better. Am I

Meg Whitman has made it very clear that she is going to be a Mitt Romney style Governor. Mittens and Meg are well acquainted with each other and they are fast friends. Heck, Mitt even moved to California to help her with her campaign. Can you spell RINO?

Meg better than Arnold? No way.....she’ll be magnatudes worse. Still she’ll be better than Moonbeam Brown hands down.

Go Home East Coasters...... leave California alone! Go back to MA, go back to NY, NJ, MD, PA, etc etc.


45 posted on 10/27/2010 4:57:02 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Down the Donks! Revolution is Brewing. Make Babs Boxer a part of history....today!)
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To: Deagle

We are bankrupt as a nation and the sooner we file the better.


46 posted on 10/27/2010 5:03:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: Czar

I share in your optimism — or lack thereof.

[My attempt at saying something nice of the situation, LOL]


47 posted on 10/27/2010 7:46:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

Do you share the opinion that a major problem in CA is that too many “makers” have left, leaving the state for the most part to “takers?”


48 posted on 10/28/2010 3:07:17 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
California's budget problems cannot be solved without a direct and ugly confrontation with public employee unions and public pensions. IF you believe that Meg Whitman has an appetite for that direct and ugly confrontation, then her election could make a real difference for California. However, IF you believe that she lacks that appetite, then California may actually be better off in the long run with Brown. The worst outcome would be the election of another moderate Republican who will not take on the ugly fight that is necessary.

IF Meg is elected and goes after the public employee unions, she will have to take on such groups as the cops, the teachers, the firefighters and the prison guards. She will have to reduce prison populations. She will be vilified from one end of the state to another. She will be painted as an enemy of education and weak on criminal justice. Governor of California will almost certainly be her last elected position and she will be unlikely to win a second term.

Why would anyone in her right mind spend over 100 million dollars for this?

49 posted on 10/28/2010 3:31:11 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Forty-Niner
Today's Field Poll shows Moonbeam 10 points ahead of Meg, so continued speculation on how she might govern is probably becoming a somewhat useless exercise regardless of who is doing the speculating. I was merely pointing out that, going in she at least has a chance to do something positive; I don't expect it but we can't call her an "Arnold" until she is in office and starts demonstrating Arnoldian tendencies, which I have little doubt that she would. Right now, it appears she won't have the opportunity.

Rather than saying "...she will be better than Moonbeam Brown hands down" I would put it that she will not be as bad as Jerry Brown (it would be very difficult for anybody to hit that depth of abject failure). I agree with your east coasters comment.

50 posted on 10/28/2010 5:34:00 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: calcowgirl

The CAGOP, in league with Big Tent RINO Central, really gave us a teriffic slate of candidates didn’t they? If they think they are starved for cash this year, wait until next year as more and more conservative voters switch over to donating directly to conservative candidates.


51 posted on 10/28/2010 5:37:54 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Czar

“Rather than saying “...she will be better than Moonbeam Brown hands down” I would put it that she will not be as bad as Jerry Brown (it would be very difficult for anybody to hit that depth of abject failure).”

upon reflection I agree yours is the better way to phrase it.

I wonder about that poll though....”It’s Chinatown Jake!”

“It’s the Field Poll, Jim!”

I think that the race will be a lot closer than the press/pollsters give credit to......could still go either way though I must say the housekeper thing has many Republicans turned off to Meg.....give the Dems applause... a successful smear job that has had the intended effect......spit! Meg , like Romney, and McCain does better at running against other Republicans than she does opposing Democrats.....even serverly flawed ones like Brown!


52 posted on 10/28/2010 7:13:26 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Down the Donks! Revolution is Brewing. Make Babs Boxer a part of history....today!)
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To: Czar

2011 is probably the year that I will de-register as a Republican.

With the open primary, there has been talk that the “leadership” will choose one Republican candidate around which we can coalesce so as no to “split the conservative vote”. I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like their choice — so why should they get to count me as a member of “their” party? They’ve done almost nothing I’ve liked for the last decade — it may be time for a divorce.

I agree — donate to the worthy candidates. That is a good start.


53 posted on 10/28/2010 10:17:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl
"2011 is probably the year that I will de-register as a Republican."

I've been reflecting on doing the same.

54 posted on 10/29/2010 12:23:20 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Czar

Glad to hear I’m not alone. I may be missing something, but I see no advantage to being registered anymore. Before, it was to have a certain voice in the primary. With the open primary, that consideration is no longer a factor. Perhaps I’ll wait until the 2012 primaries start to line up before making a decision. If the “leadership” tries to pick our candidate for us, I’ll go independent pretty darn quick.


55 posted on 10/29/2010 1:02:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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