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Nail in the COLB Coffin
nobarack08 ^ | 10/28/2010 | syc1959

Posted on 10/28/2010 5:49:06 AM PDT by syc1959

The Barack Hussein Obama COLB [Certification of Live Birth] that has been posted on the internet, first the DailyKos and then Fight The Smears and finally at FactCheck now been proven to be a fake, fabricated, and forged document. There is no doubt that the original is not an authentic State of Hawaii, Department of Health issued document.

Here is an example of a Hawaiian long form issued in September of 2010, a date where the Obama liars claim that Hawaii no longer issues what is presented below.

(Excerpt) Read more at wp.me ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blog; certifigate; foreigner; illegal; naturalborncitizen; obama; undocumented
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1 posted on 10/28/2010 5:49:07 AM PDT by syc1959
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To: syc1959

Blog Pimpin will just attract attention, and not the good kind.


2 posted on 10/28/2010 5:52:23 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: syc1959

If he was born in the USA it would be a non-issue. Pay a coupe of bucks and show us. Instead he has spent millions fighting it.

The REAL birth certificate contains some thing he does not want us to see.


3 posted on 10/28/2010 5:53:04 AM PDT by Mr. K (All our candidates suck! The media SAYS SO!!)
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To: syc1959

I think we’ve been over this about a million times and it’s a hopeless pursuit. Move on.


4 posted on 10/28/2010 5:55:03 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Mr. K

Obama can’t produce what does not exist - a valid birth certificate issued from any state in America


5 posted on 10/28/2010 5:56:28 AM PDT by syc1959
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To: saganite

First order of business of the next Congress: Subpeona to the State of Hawaii for the Certificate of Live Birth, forthwith.


6 posted on 10/28/2010 5:56:37 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Mr. K

I think the Bc says he is a caucasian/arab not black. And that might be the nail in his coffin.


7 posted on 10/28/2010 5:58:16 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: saganite
Yep, we've been over it, but the issue lets us live in their heads rent-free.

Doubt is the natural enemy of "Hope and Change", often putting the first cracks in the facade of suspended disbelief necessary to follow the Obamites.

8 posted on 10/28/2010 5:58:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: syc1959

If the democratic party wants to save itself from extinction, some members should lead the effort after the mid-term elections to confront Obama on proving his qualifications to be POTUS and going after him for fraud and treason.


9 posted on 10/28/2010 5:58:40 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Vigelence on Nov. 2 and beyond)
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To: Mr. K

If he was born in the USA TO PARENTS WHOM WERE U.S. CITIZENS it would be a non-issue. obams’s father being a foreign national puts obama in violation of Article two of the U.S. Constitution. A certified birth certificate ( the one obama will never release) would be the proof needed to remove him from the Office of the President.


10 posted on 10/28/2010 6:05:41 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: syc1959

I have, on numerous occasions, posted a link to a REAL Hawaiian birth certificate from the time of Obama’s birth.

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/zczc3185/Birth_cert_coats_7c.jpg

It is pretty much like mine from Tennessee, of 1944, but also as in most every US state.

I have never had an Obot, a FReeper, or anyone else give me a valid explanation as to why Obozo will not show one.
Keep in mind, one former employee of the registrars office claims that there is NO birth certificate for Obambie.


11 posted on 10/28/2010 6:10:04 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: syc1959

Check out what happened on 23OCT10, in DC:

http://obamacrimes.com/


12 posted on 10/28/2010 6:10:55 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: syc1959

13 posted on 10/28/2010 6:11:00 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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To: AlexW

yes, I have seen it. Thanks


14 posted on 10/28/2010 6:11:30 AM PDT by syc1959
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To: saganite
I think we’ve been over this about a million times and it’s a hopeless pursuit. Move on.

This is about hurting Obama. As long as this issue can continue to cause him damage, it worth keeping it alive.

15 posted on 10/28/2010 6:12:14 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: cajungirl
I think the Bc says he is a caucasian/arab

It doesn't say he's a "Magic Negro"?

16 posted on 10/28/2010 6:13:07 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: saganite

Move on? Never! First, the liberals would never “move on” if it was a Republican president whose birth was suspect. Second, and most important, whether there is anything to this or not, it drives the left absolutely nuts when this issue comes up. I love to see their heads explode. Finally, it must be costing Obama alot of money to keep things under control. The more this issue is played up the more he will have to pay attorneys to maintain control of the story.


17 posted on 10/28/2010 6:15:36 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: cajungirl

IF there is a valid birth certificate, and
IF he is actually born in a state in America,

there is something really devastating on that cert that he doesn’t want anyone to see.


18 posted on 10/28/2010 6:15:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Russ

“Kenya show me a birth certificate?”
also drives them nuts.


19 posted on 10/28/2010 6:16:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: cajungirl
I think the Bc says he is a caucasian/arab not black. And that might be the nail in his coffin.

Do they put religion on the BCs? I would expect having a Muslim father the BC says he's a Muslim.

20 posted on 10/28/2010 6:17:11 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: AlexW

Even has the name of main attendant doctor Noda and the hospital


21 posted on 10/28/2010 6:18:55 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius.)
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To: syc1959

Whether or not he is a Muslim is NOT A QUESTION!

His father WAS a Muslim, and so (to Muslims) he IS A MUSLIM

He says he is Christian, but where did he learn that or become one? Was he Baptised?

And... what was the punishment for converting away from that?


22 posted on 10/28/2010 6:20:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (All our candidates suck! The media SAYS SO!!)
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To: saganite

I dont think it is hopeless- I think we press it more and more and more until he has to explain why he will not show it over and over and over.

I would rather have him do this than passing laws anyway.


23 posted on 10/28/2010 6:21:57 AM PDT by Mr. K (All our candidates suck! The media SAYS SO!!)
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To: syc1959
See also, some NEW analysis about all this from hillbuzz.org (10/26/10):

MEANWHILE, the REAL REASON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS BEING HIDDEN remains undiscussed. 

After going over the facts on this for the last two years, we’ve nailed it down to a few options

Obama won’t reveal his birth certificate because:

* His father was not actually Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. but was in fact Frank Marshall, a radical communist and admitted pedophile who had a strange relationship with Obama’s mother Stanley Duhahm in Hawaii. 

Since BHO Sr. lived in Kenya, some speculate Stanley told people he was the baby’s father since Frank Marshall was married at the time, and being impregnated by a man on another continent was easier for Stanley to deal with at the time.

* Obama’s real name is “Barry Soetoro” because his birth certificate was legally changed in the 1970s when Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s Indonesian stepfather, adopted him. 

His school records in Indonesia list him legally as Barry Soetoro.  We presume he needed to show a birth certificate to attend school, and the school recorded his legal name as Barry Soetoro at the time of his enrollment.  Knowing school administrators, they would have taken the name exactly as it appeared on a document they were given.  If the certificate had said “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” on it, the school would have enrolled him with that name, and possibly put “Barry Soetoro” in parentheses somewhere if that was the name he preferred to go by. 

Just as “Virginia Smith” might go by “Ginny”, but her school record would read “Virginia ‘Ginny’ Smith” in terms of her enrollment.This is not the case for Obama.  While living in Indonesia, he was “Barry Soetoro” for all those years, with the name “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” only resurfacing back on Hawaii when Obama realized his Kenyan father’s name got him further with white-guilt liberals than an Indonesian name did.  Obama is, was, and always will be an opportunist of the highest order.  He is EXCELLENT at playing white guilt like a harp.  But, it does not appear he ever legally changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. after his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.  Maybe he did this so that he would inherit money from Soetoro in the future, and he knew with all of his real father’s children spread all over the world he’d never get a dime from them…so opportunist Obama kept his claim to Soetoro for that reason, but to the white world started using his Kenyan father’s name again to get the maximum financial aid, benefits, and promotions white guilt would give him.

(3) The last oddity the birth certificate might reveal is that ethnographically in 1961 Obama was recorded as a “Caucasian Arab” child. 

His mother was a white Caucasian, 100%.  His father, assuming it was Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was only 1/4 black.  According to how the British classified him in Kenya back in 1961, he would have actually been listed on official documents as “African Arab”.  That left the bureaucrat filling out Obama’s birth certificate with a dilemma in terms of what to record the new baby’s race as in the year 1961. “Caucasian” was his dominant race, since his mother was 100% Caucasian.  Since the father was only 1/4 black, but mostly Arab, the birth certificate could reveal Obama to be a “Caucasian Arab”, since that seems to be the most natural mix of those two identities.

That last one is by far the most damaging thing that could ever be revealed about Obama.

His entire “phenomenon” is based on him being the “historic and unprecedented first black president”.

But, if his birth certificate recorded him as “Caucasian Arab” it would not only rev up everyone who suspects him of being an agent of Islam in the White House, but also undermine his stratospheric 90%+ support in the black community.

Remember, blacks protect Obama out of race-pride just the same as they protected OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson.  Their loyalty to Obama is unflappable…as long as he’s really genetically black. 

MJ proved he could transform into a white woman, essentially, and not lose that support because his genes were still black, no matter what color was under his sequined jackets.

But, what would happen to Obama if it was proved he lied to the black community about being one of them?

So much of his life was spent perfecting that “black preacher” patois he learned from listening to tapes of Jeremiah Wright’s sermons while at Columbia and Harvard.  He came to Chicago to gain black legitimacy in the Southside.  He married a crass, stereotypical, big-bottomed black woman name Michelle LaVaughn Robinson whose family was not only part of the Daley Machine, but was close with Jesse Jackson.  At every step of the way, Obama cultivated as many ties as possible to black leaders so that he would not be seen as an outsider.  Michelle’s crassness was the most important aspect of all this — her abrasiveness and scowling, grievance-driven demeanor, when carried on his arm, made Obama seem “Southside black” in her company.

Without Michelle, Obama was too exotic…too alien.  She made him real. Jeremiah Wright made him real.  Those “G** Damn America!” sermons the two of them enjoyed for twenty years made them real.  Without any of this, the “Caucasian Arab” born in Hawaii in 1961 would not have been pushed by the DNC at lightning speed to become “the historic and unprecedented first black president”.

Since everyone in the media is so deathly afraid of an all-out race war and the Obamas pointing the finger and screeching RAAACIST! at anyone questioning them, we’d be stunned if THIS was the “Big Scandal” Ulstermann talks about in those articles.

Could be.

But, we have such a low opinion of the cowards both in the media and the Cocktail Party Republican party that we can’t imagine anyone in the opposition camp pursuing any of the stories above.

Democrats, of course, want to keep all of this from ever being talked about because Ulstermann is right:  if Americans on a large scale started talking about ANY of this, they’d wonder why the Democrats lied about it all.  They’d demand to know why none of this stuff came out in 2008.

True, palpable, anger would broil in the public.

Who knows what would happen.

But, once that genie left the bottle, the media sure as Hell would not be able to stop it.

It really could be bigger than Watergate, because there’s just so many bizarre elements to this…and it’s certainly a more sexy, soap-operatic tale than anything about “plumbers’ in some office building in DC.

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24 posted on 10/28/2010 6:29:01 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Bean Counter; LucyT; null and void

PING to the real Obama BC, there is no doubt in my mind it is the real deal.


25 posted on 10/28/2010 6:29:01 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: syc1959

after they get their clocks cleaned next Tuesday do ya think some Democrats will suddenly show an interest in this?


26 posted on 10/28/2010 6:30:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mr. K

Allegedly, Rev. Wrong...err Wright baptised him but then again I don’t know the polity of liberation/marxist theology to know what they do. His baptismal certificate is also one of 25 documents missing.


27 posted on 10/28/2010 6:32:40 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: AlexW

Even has the name of main attendant doctor Noda and the hospital


28 posted on 10/28/2010 6:55:12 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius.)
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To: RonDog

I think people would except that he had a different father, but that is still no reason to avoid showing the basic proof that is required to establish his eligibility.

If he did lie that his father was BHO sr, then every single person that believed and excepted his lies has a right to demand, that he is a fraud.

plain and simple.


29 posted on 10/28/2010 7:01:21 AM PDT by syc1959
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To: Danae

Ping a ling a ling!

And I still say, Well done girl!


30 posted on 10/28/2010 7:21:22 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: cajungirl

I agree. I think the original BC contains information that does not fit his narrative.


31 posted on 10/28/2010 7:25:04 AM PDT by Padams
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To: Mouton
Photobucket

“You want a freaking BIRTH CERTIFICATE? I got your BIRTH CERTIFICATE RIGHT HERE!”


32 posted on 10/28/2010 7:28:41 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: RonDog

I believe the Hillbuzz boys are on the right track.

Will Dems take Obama down if Tuesday is a “teanami” (as Rush says)? I predict the left outs Obama and his bc.


33 posted on 10/28/2010 7:45:00 AM PDT by Padams
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To: Hotlanta Mike
If the dems did that, the dem party would cease to exist.

The entire higher echelon of the dem party would be in jail with Zippo.

The law suites for fraud alone would bankrupt the dem party.

That's why I don't believe they ever intended to get this clown into the WH.

I believe the idea was to get him right to the edge of election, have him declared ineligible, orchestrate massive race riots (race war) around the country, forcing Bush to take emergency steps (martial law) to stop the violence, and launch Hillary into the WH with basically dictatorial powers.

In other words I believe they were following the Weather Underground play book.

34 posted on 10/28/2010 8:24:12 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: syc1959

(face palm)


35 posted on 10/28/2010 8:41:23 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: conservativegramma

Ugh. It has too much personal information on it for my comfort.


36 posted on 10/28/2010 8:52:51 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Danae

Yep, thought you might like to know its been lifted off FR. That’s definitely a downside for you :(

On the other hand, the positive side is that, yep, it does prove that Omarxist is lying and his was and continues to be fraudulent. :)

He seems to be pretty good at fraud unfortunately.


37 posted on 10/28/2010 9:18:49 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: cajungirl

Assuming Barck Obama Sr. was his father, Obama has NO African blood.

Here’s his family:

http://theobamafile.com/_family/FamilyPage.htm

Those people are Africans, not Arabs, which by the way, are caucasian.

That rumor began here:

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

I sent this guy 3 emails asking him to identify the “Kenyan documents” he uses as a source. He never replied.


38 posted on 10/28/2010 1:54:24 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith; cajungirl

Obama has NO African blood.

Check that!

NO ARAB blood.

Sorry!


39 posted on 10/28/2010 1:56:00 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Mr. K

Was he Baptised?

No. He was never baptized.

But he did publicly recite the Shahada.

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies — and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the Islamic world.

Regardless of Obama’s religion, what message is he sending the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims?

I suppose it’s easy for Obama to remember the Shahada for the 35 years since he left Indonesia — and in ‘first-class’ Arabic — especially since he believes the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”

The fact that Obama can recall the Shahada after 35 years and the fact that he believes that the daily call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth” say that those Muslim prayers run through his head often — what does that make him?

http://theobamafile.com/_Islam/ObamaIslamCandidate.htm


40 posted on 10/28/2010 2:01:05 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: bjorn14
Allegedly, Rev. Wrong...err Wright baptised him

Never, ever happened.

Do you have a source/link for your information?

41 posted on 10/28/2010 2:04:03 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Never, ever happened.

Do you have a source/link for your information?


Here’s a source and a link:
“Finding His Faith”
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/07/11/finding-his-faith.html


42 posted on 10/28/2010 5:21:03 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

That report is standard Newsweak bullshit!

You’ll notice your Newsweak story provides no source,no link, no documentation — just more ObamaBullshit.

Since you are Obama’s water-carrier here, I’m not at all surprised that you pulled it out.

There is much confusion surrounding the date of Obama’s conversion. Newspaper reports place this event in 1988. On Fox News, March 14th, 2007, Obama himself placed this even in 1992, but continues to say he’s been a Christian for 20 years — you figure it out.

Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a “baptism”, there doesn’t appear to be any record of a baptism.

Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama’s baptism, wrote, “I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records.”

It seems that Obama’s conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright’s altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.

Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, “He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart.”

“I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means.”

“Does it mean that you feel you’ve got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that’s directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you’re born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it’s understood by some other tradition? I’m not sure.”

“There are aspects of Christian tradition that I’m comfortable with and aspects that I’m not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, ‘Ya know, I’m not sure about that.’”

“It wasn’t an epiphany,” he says of that public profession of faith. “It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”

The specifically political character of his new church is what drew Obama out of his skeptical isolation and into religion. Obama wrote::

“But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn to the church.”

“For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of African-American religious tradition to spur social change . . . the black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge the powers and principalities . . . I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; it is an active, palpable agent in the world. It is a source of hope.”

“It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and affirm my Christian faith.”

In other words, Obama’s membership at Trinity UCC resulted from his familiarity with Wright’s political views. Even Obama’s phrase “challenge the powers and principalities” is a particular favorite of black-liberation theologists.

Falsani warns us that Obama’s walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being “saved, transformed or washed in the blood.” In other words, it’s not to be confused with what Jesus called being “born again.” As Mr. Obama himself explains, “It wasn’t an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”

In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: “When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright’s altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Falsani wonders, “What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions.”

Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its “call to evangelize and proselytize,” the good senator’s faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.

At the core of Obama’s faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism. Obama’s having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.

Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama’s baptism, please contact me via email with a source, link or other documentation.

Sources and links here:

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm


43 posted on 10/28/2010 6:12:23 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Baraq’s hookup with Wright’s deal was for street cred for his political quest, same reason he married a black gal.

I don’t think he’s much of a Muslim either, it’s far too rigorous a sect for a slacker like him.

Hard left materialism is Baraq’s only consistent belief.


44 posted on 10/28/2010 6:18:07 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
Obama is a hard-core Marxist ideologue.

He doesn't give a rat's ass about religion except how it will help him pull the wool over the voter's eyes.

45 posted on 10/28/2010 6:22:55 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: nascarnation

Re: “...same reason he married a black gal”

I am getting closer, and closer to pegging this guy as light in the loafers.

There’s too much there.

His professors, his roommates (who all had money and paid the bills), the Man’s Country stuff. The bstories from Chicago’s gay community. Hell, I’ve never put Larry Sinclair’s allegations on my website, but I’m beginning to believe, there may be something there.

But the big thing for me is that no woman or girl has ever, ever come forward to describe “my date with Barack.”

No woman has ever, ever come forward to describe the intense, but short relationship.

Women talk, you know.


46 posted on 10/28/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

That report is standard Newsweak bullshit!

You’ll notice your Newsweak story provides no source,no link, no documentation — just more ObamaBullshit.

Since you are Obama’s water-carrier here, I’m not at all surprised that you pulled it out.

There is much confusion surrounding the date of Obama’s conversion. Newspaper reports place this event in 1988. On Fox News, March 14th, 2007, Obama himself placed this even in 1992, but continues to say he’s been a Christian for 20 years — you figure it out.

Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a “baptism”, there doesn’t appear to be any record of a baptism.

Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama’s baptism, wrote, “I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records.”

It seems that Obama’s conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright’s altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.

Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, “He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart.”

“I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means.”

“Does it mean that you feel you’ve got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that’s directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you’re born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it’s understood by some other tradition? I’m not sure.”

“There are aspects of Christian tradition that I’m comfortable with and aspects that I’m not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, ‘Ya know, I’m not sure about that.’”

“It wasn’t an epiphany,” he says of that public profession of faith. “It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”

The specifically political character of his new church is what drew Obama out of his skeptical isolation and into religion. Obama wrote::

“But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn to the church.”

“For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of African-American religious tradition to spur social change . . . the black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge the powers and principalities . . . I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; it is an active, palpable agent in the world. It is a source of hope.”

“It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and affirm my Christian faith.”

In other words, Obama’s membership at Trinity UCC resulted from his familiarity with Wright’s political views. Even Obama’s phrase “challenge the powers and principalities” is a particular favorite of black-liberation theologists.

Falsani warns us that Obama’s walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being “saved, transformed or washed in the blood.” In other words, it’s not to be confused with what Jesus called being “born again.” As Mr. Obama himself explains, “It wasn’t an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”

In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: “When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright’s altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Falsani wonders, “What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions.”

Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its “call to evangelize and proselytize,” the good senator’s faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.

At the core of Obama’s faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism. Obama’s having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.

Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama’s baptism, please contact me via email with a source, link or other documentation.

Sources and links here:

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm


You asked for a source and a link. I provided a source and a link. If you don’t like or appreciate the source, that’s fine with me but that doesn’t stop it from being a source.


47 posted on 10/28/2010 8:26:46 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: saganite
" I think we’ve been over this about a million times and it’s a hopeless pursuit. Move on. "

Move on ? you mean more like surrender ?

Hell no !

The only MOVE ONS that we know here are those who are from MOVEON.ORG.
48 posted on 10/29/2010 1:26:26 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: jamese777
Yeah, your reliable credible NEWSWEEK source...
The main stream media has a ability to give us BS all the time 24/7
49 posted on 10/29/2010 1:36:41 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: syc1959
proven to be a fake, fabricated, and forged document

Yet nobody outside the hardcore birther crowd is buyin' it.

50 posted on 10/29/2010 4:42:25 AM PDT by Kleon
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