Like Californians, New Yorkers Suffer From Insanity (Cuomo Video)

ChicoER ^ | 10/28/10 | Chuck Wolk

[OneVike]

Benjamin Franklin is credited with defining insanity as the action of constantly doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results.  Well with that understanding, it is my opinion that both California and New York voters are suffering from an extreme case of insanity.  In California, Democrat Jerry Brown is holding a slight edge over Republican Meg Whitman 48% to 42%.  Now I do believe that both Whitman and Paladino can win, if Republicans vote with the same enthusiasm they had during the primaries. However, if these numbers hold then it looks as if Jerry Brown will be the next governor of California. That, my friends, is insane, because Jerry Brown is the man who admittedly put California in debt by spending the surplus Ronald Reagan left.   California has never climbed out of that debt because of the insane voters who continue to re-elect the same liberal Democrats who think like Jerry Brown does.  So along with keeping both state houses under the Democrats' control, they could very well re-elect the worst governor ever to have held the office. THAT IS INSANE!

Meanwhile, over on America's coastline where the sun rises, New Yorkers are ready to do a similar thing by putting Andrew Cuomo in the governor's mansion.  So, like Californians, New Yorkers also suffer from insanity.  After all, it was Andrew's father Mario who screwed the state up so bad that a virtual unknown Republican candidate, George Pataki, defeated him in his bid for a fourth term.  Well, now Andrew is running for governor against Carl Paladino.  Unfortunately, 51% to 37%.  This does not bode well for the Big Apple.  Even if you ignore the pathetic shape of New York that was left by his father when he lost to Pataki in 1994, Andrew himself has his own serious issues.  He is directly responsible for setting things up, along with Kirsten Gillibrand, Barney Frank, and Christopher Dodd, that destroyed the housing market, and thus sent America into an economic tailspin.  

[Follow this link to see video of Cuomo proudly taking credit for the sub-prime mortgage scheme]

As Bill Clinton's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Cuomo was the prime mover behind programs that destabilized Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.  Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd were running these two lending institutions when George Bush tried to fix things.  Unfortunately for Americans, Frank and Dodd stood in Bush's way and so the corrupt.....


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[metmom]

Please contact me if you’re interested in being added on or taken off the Carl Paladino for Governor ping list. This looks to be a fairly high volume ping list for a while, probably until the election.

[DJ MacWoW]

By staying, you are supporting the liberal habits

By staying my husband is keeping his very needed job and at 63 he's not likely to find another.

I knew that and decided to move to a state where there was a lesser chance for fraud,

Not everyone can do that.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

BTTT

[metmom]

By staying, you are supporting the liberal habits of high spending and high taxation, and supporting the many who won't even bother to go to work.

You know, I'm not inclined to talk to people like this, but in your case, I'll make an exception.

Stuff it.

You are not our judge and jury and we don't answer to you as to how we run our lives.

We do not support liberalism, high spending and high taxes just because we don't do what YOU think we should. There are high taxes all over the place and welfare everywhere.

Plain and simple, it's none of your business why we stay and I don't recall anyone asking for your opinion.

[trisham]

Amen, metmom.

[DJ MacWoW]

People that flee the state have no room to knock it or anyone that stays. No one wins a battle by running away.

[OneVike]

Very well said.

I agree.

[NYer]

We have a childish legislature that locked Republicans out of the chambers and makes the rest of the state pay for NYC. A namby-pamby isn't going to cut it.

Nor will a political insider like Cuomo.

In his latest round of political commercials, Cuomo proclaims "he can't believe what has happened to NY government - the corruption, the greed, the disfunction, the embarrassment ... "

Ironic, isn't it, since it comes from a Democrat whose party ran the state for the past 4 years!

Work Together - Cuomo Campaign Commercial

Andy's father lost to Pataki. During the transition to the new administration, Pataki, who never expected to win, had to raise funds to support the transition team, a necessary and integral part of switching between one governor and another. Pataki never forgot this! Those two months are critical to ensuring a smooth transition from one governor to another. During his administration, the state recovered enough prosperity that Governor Pataki set aside funds for the next governor elect's transition team. Immediately following the election of Governor Spitzer, the governor's office set up offices for the transition team, supplying them with office space, telephones and computer equipment, to ensure the transition progressed smoothly.

This is the difference in governance between two former governors. Cuomo's father left nothing for Pataki and now, the Spitzer/Paterson team has left nothing for whoever is elected governor.

[DJ MacWoW]

I hadn't heard that before. Thanks for posting that.

We need someone like Paladino to take over. He's hard as nails and blunt. None will be left wondering where he stands.

[adorno]

You know, I'm not inclined to talk to people like this, but in your case, I'll make an exception.

I'll bet it's not the first time you've been inclined to talk like that.

Stuff it.

Why the attitude? You must be very easy to offend.

Nobody is forcing anything on you and if you don't like what others have to say, or their opinion, you could just move on. But, I guess you were just inclined to be insulting "this time" around?

You are not our judge and jury and we don't answer to you as to how we run our lives.

Well, I guess you have a hard time understanding what I was saying because, I wasn't forcing anything on you or anyone else. My opinions and my actions don't have to be followed as examples. What I did and what I've said are examples that other people have done before me. I was not the first to feel the way I did about New York and I'm pretty sure I won't be the last; and, I wasn't the first to leave because of it's offensive politics and offensive big spending and high taxation. I did tolerate it for a long time, and it took me several years between the time I decided that I wasn't going to take it anymore to the time when I actually did leave.

We do not support liberalism, high spending and high taxes just because we don't do what YOU think we should.

You may not be morally supporting liberalism or its high spending and high taxation, but, you are tolerating it. And, guess what? The liberals know that there are people like you who are basically stuck, or who will tolerate what liberalism does, and therefore, they know they can get away with doing what they've done, using whatever support they can extract from you to support their socialism.

There are high taxes all over the place and welfare everywhere.

True, but not every place has the same level of high taxation and spending as New York and California and other liberal bastions.

I too felt the way you do now, but, there came a time when I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. And, believe it or not, I was a liberal democrat for a long time of my life back in New York.

But, with your attitude, you are part of the enablers for the socialists in your state. The liberals know that not everybody will leave, so, they know that, even if unwillingly, you are indirectly supporting their high spending ways and their high taxation.

Plain and simple, it's none of your business why we stay and I don't recall anyone asking for your opinion.

You are the one that's taking it very personally. But, I know that there are many republicans and conservatives that feel the way I do, and we don't just go about our lives tolerating the harm that comes from socialism. Not everybody will do or say as I did or will do, but, just being tolerant and feeling that you can't do anything is a defeatist attitude.

BTW, in case you care to know, it took me 8 years from my decision to leave to the actual time when I did leave NY. So, I know that it isn't easy, but I was determined that I just had to do something and I eventually left. My immediate family came with me right away, and the rest of my family came in later years, but not all at once. But, there is no such thing as just tolerating it or just being stuck; not for me.

[adorno]

People that flee the state have no room to knock it or anyone that stays.

I stayed for a long time. It just became too intolerable for me after a while.

No one wins a battle by running away.

And, staying in a hell-hole just enables the socialists to cause more harm to the remaining residents. They'll use whatever resources you can provide to expand or continue their agenda. I wasn't willing to continue being used that way. The socialists in society are counting on your kind of attitude.

And, btw, I'm speaking as a former liberal who used to think that everybody should "give their fair share" in order to create a society where everybody got to "share in the wealth" or at least have a comfortable life. But, coming from the South Bronx and from Brooklyn and from Harlem, I noticed first-hand, how the liberal propositions were just causing more harm than good. It took some growing up and some "mugging by reality" to come to the conclusions which I did.

Sometimes, "running away" is the best method for attacking a problem or for preventing it from continuing.

[DJ MacWoW]

Sometimes, "running away" is the best method for attacking a problem or for preventing it from continuing.

You no longer live in NY so you are doing nothing to turn the state around.

We are losing our country. Now is the time to stand and fight. Running to a "safe" place protects no one but you. And if creeping socialism isn't fought in places like NY, there won't BE anymore "safe" states, socialism will get them all.

[adorno]

You no longer live in NY so you are doing nothing to turn the state around.

I did my part while I still lived there, and I voted and I urged my family members and friends to go an vote. But, the numbers weren't in my favor nor in the republicans' favor; they still aren't, not by a long shot. One can only do so much, and staying and indirectly supporting socialism wasn't what I wanted anymore.

However, by leaving, I do feel that I'm doing more to help turn that state around, than by staying. Without my support and without the support of republicans, the state can only turn to ruins much faster, which would usher in, hopefully, a new beginning. Staying only prolongs the misery for everybody.

We are losing our country.

But, we haven't lost it yet. And, starting on Nov 2nd, we can be on the way to getting it back on track. However, some states will take longer to recover from the misery unleashed on them from socialism.

Now is the time to stand and fight.

I've often heard that your vote counts. But, in New York and California and other liberal bastions, where the liberals outnumber conservatives by millions, your vote only get lost in the trash bins after the election is over. In other words, your vote in those liberal states is mostly inconsequential. The long-term prognosis for such liberal bastions, even if we can get a few victories in-between, is more socialism. Not supporting them by leaving just makes them unsustainable a little faster, and, hopefully, big changes could then occur much sooner.

Running to a "safe" place protects no one but you.

Wrong!

Yeah, it helps me, but it helps everybody to not just continue to support that which you no longer believe in.

When enough people and businesses leave a state, the tax base decreases, and, the state and socialism cannot sustain themselves. Socialism is very dependent upon the well-to-do and the rich and lots of businesses for sustenance. Without the support of those who have left, the spending has to decrease, and taxation has to be brought down. If spending and taxation are not brought down, then it's only a matter of time before the collapse of that states' economy. We started to see the effects of a lowered tax base in such economies as New Jersey and California and even New York. New Jersey now has one of the most conservative governors ever elected to office and that's because the people noticed that socialism was beginning to kill them. But, I fear that the long-term direction in New Jersey is still for more socialism. It takes more than just a conservative governor to change things in that state. It takes some very dire lessons inflicted upon the voters for them to realize that, socialism cannot be tolerated any more.

And if creeping socialism isn't fought in places like NY, there won't BE anymore "safe" states, socialism will get them all.

Staying and remaining part of the tax base just serves to sustain their big spending and high taxation habits. One way to fight is to leave such liberal bastions. Staying only helps them. Though you may think that working from within is the best way possible to effect change, leaving might make those changes come quicker. But, as far as I was concerned, being outnumbered as I and all republicans were/are, moving out was a better and wiser choice.

Moving out of New York was not an easy decision, not after living there for more than 30 years, and with an established career and with a family to support. But, I needed to make a change for the better and staying in New York was not for the better.

[DJ MacWoW]

Wrong!

Nope. You've only helped you.

Have a nice evening.

[adorno]

You've only helped you.

Well, duh! That's one of the points for my actions.

However, I'm no in it just for myself.

When I left NY, I did it to also try to make a better living by not being so squeezed out of a better lifestyle through high taxation, and the high spending which is the normal situation up there in NY. To be able to do so much spending, the politicians up there need to take from everyone, including republicans, conservative, libertarians, and anybody that has any kind of earnings or money in the bank. I refused to continue being a victim of that kind of mentality and socialist behavior. What I did was a very conscious decision to not continue being a victim anymore and to try, in the long run, effect a quicker death to the socialist behavior found in places such as NY.

You may not see it as I do, but you are directly helping the socialists with their agenda, even if you consider yourself a republican. Rush Limbaugh left for basically the same reasons I left NY, but, Rush didn't need NY to do what he does. I needed NY more than Rush, but I was determined that I would eventually leave, and I did. You might not be able to escape the situation and you might not even want to leave, but the fact is that, you are helping them.

But, hey, NY is still not a bad place to visit. Unfortunately, every time I visit, I too will be contributing to the socialists with taxes on everything I purchase, but, it won't be as much as I used to contribute.