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The Celluloid Capital [Plamegate returns!]
National Journal ^ | 10/28/10 | Matt Cooper

Posted on 10/28/2010 8:13:48 PM PDT by Enchante

... the title is drawn from how Karl Rove told Matthews that the CIA agent Valerie Plame was fair game for critics of her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson.

Wilson, you’ll recall, was dispatched by the CIA in 2002 at the behest of Vice President Dick Cheney’s office to investigate whether Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium from the African country of Niger. Wilson came back with the answer no, and he was outraged when President Bush nevertheless stuck with the claim in his 2003 State of the Union address, which made the case for war with Iraq. Just three days after Wilson attacked the speech in a New York Times op-ed, Robert Novak, the conservative columnist, blew Valerie Plame’s cover.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: africa; africanuranium; bush; cia; cialeak; cooper; democrats; gabon; iraq; joewilson; libby; mattcooper; media; msm; niger; nigerflap; plame; plamegate; rove; scooterlibby; uranium; valerieplame; valeriewilson; wmd; yellowcake
Plamegate is back and Hollywood is trying to enshrine a deeply dishonest version of 'history' as the final story.

This is am important cultural & political moment b/c (1) the left is trying once again to ensure its dishonest history prevails, and (2) it's a new opportunity (right after the Demagogues are trounced in the election!) for all of us to try to ensure that the propaganda does not prevail this time.

1 posted on 10/28/2010 8:13:49 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

I was amazed to see that this review/plug is written by Matt Cooper of legal and unethical notoriety during Plamegate!

He parrots every ‘Rat talking point and is visibly relieved that the film focuses upon ‘personal’ turmoil for Joe and Valerie Wilson rather than on the journalists, b/c that way it can be a propaganda sympathy story for how poooor Valerie’s life is upset by the eviilll empire.

No inconvenient focus upon lying lib journalists becoming part of the story.....


2 posted on 10/28/2010 8:16:42 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: Enchante

I predict more people were at that DC Union rally than will see this film. None the less it will be nominated for an Oscar.


3 posted on 10/28/2010 8:24:02 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm a soldier of good fortune, I'm guarding the Yucatan.)
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To: Enchante; All

4 posted on 10/28/2010 8:27:08 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Ambassador Joe Wilson... you'll recall, was dispatched by the CIA in 2002 at the behest of Vice President Dick Cheney's office to investigate whether Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium from the African country of Niger. Wilson came back with the answer no, and he was outraged when President Bush nevertheless stuck with the claim in his 2003 State of the Union address, which made the case for war with Iraq. Just three days after Wilson attacked the speech in a New York Times op-ed, Robert Novak, the conservative columnist, blew Valerie Plame's cover.
Gosh, it's almost as if the President of the United States didn't rely on a couple of Demwits as his only source of information. Wilson outed his own wife anyway. Thanks Enchante.


5 posted on 10/28/2010 8:29:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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key actors who will be entirely ignored, or else whitewashed, or simply fictionalized to serve lib talking points:

Richard Armitage
Colin Powell
Joe Wilson
Valerie Plame
Matt Cooper
David Corn
Patrick Fitzgerald
etc.

If those 7 (and others) could be required somehow to tell all they know and how the worked to bring down the Bush admin., the public understanding of the real history would be vastly enhanced.


6 posted on 10/28/2010 8:31:05 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: kcvl; STARWISE; ravingnutter; Marine_Uncle; piasa; NormsRevenge; Free ThinkerNY; Kaslin; ...

one time ping

Return of Plamegate may seem to some like just a Hollyweird triviality, but it is also the Left’s latest attempt to enshrine the dishonest version of history, permanently.

How many people, years later, know much of Watergate except what was in the movies?

In this case, for which the facts were even more arcane and contested, he who controls the story on film controls its lasting effects as a left-wing talking point for years to come.


7 posted on 10/28/2010 8:41:29 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: Enchante; onyx; penelopesire; SE Mom; hoosiermama; maggief; Liz; piasa; Fedora; Fudd Fan; ...

Lunacy ..

Hear the crackpots on their appearance on Tavis Smiley,
another public television taxpayer waste of millions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ4ICF_Il4I

I’m *sure* they’ll get an Oscar; after all .. Sean
Penn plays the bloated bilgepump, Joe Wilson.

Hey Joe .. hear about the Wikileaks revelation
that there WERE WMD in Saddam’s Iraq ???

Opportunist lying Doofus!


8 posted on 10/28/2010 9:06:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Enchante
..........................In this case, for which the facts were even more arcane and contested, he who controls the story on film controls its lasting effects as a left-wing talking point for years to come........................

That sir, is a most excellent observation.

Regardless of the truthfulness, the movie will conquer the Sheeple’s mind!

9 posted on 10/28/2010 9:10:03 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Esp. A crash scene, or fiery pyrotechnics!)
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To: Enchante
Subtitled: Richard Armitage? Who dat?
10 posted on 10/28/2010 9:17:53 PM PDT by cookcounty (My Final prediction: 10 Senate seats, 70 House seats. --Oct 26th.)
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To: Enchante
Somebody creative should make a movie called “Obama - The Early Years”.

They could do it documentary style, and use all of the actual documents and other hard evidence available to explain his life story.

Chapter 1 - (all from his “autobiography) Where he grew up, where he smoked pot and snorted cocaine, who he hung out with, etc.

Chapter 2 - All his school records, college records, etc. (since there are none, the director could just make it up, like Michael Moore did)

Chapter 3 - All of his community organizing, social connections, religious teachings, etc. (since there isn't much of a record here either, the director could cover his black theology, racist connections, and then make up whatever seems to fit best)

With such a small amount of actual documentation even providing the basic information that everyone else has, the movie shouldn't run more than an hour or so. And since Obama seems to have made up most of his life history, he shouldn't have much problem if the director does also.

11 posted on 10/28/2010 9:19:26 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Enchante

Actually, Matt Cooper wrote this piece, and claims in it that it was Rove who leaked to him.


12 posted on 10/28/2010 9:20:15 PM PDT by cookcounty (My Final prediction: 10 Senate seats, 70 House seats. --Oct 26th.)
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To: cookcounty

I’m well aware that Matt Cooper wrote the piece, and he is a liar, fraud, charlatan....


13 posted on 10/28/2010 9:27:20 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Enchante; All
They never go away!

 

 

14 posted on 10/28/2010 9:31:56 PM PDT by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Enchante

Plamegate = Stupidest and most confusing “-gate” EVER. The movie will stink, no one will watch it, it will make little money, receive many pointless awards, and further Hollywood’s march towards doom by continuing the emphasis of radical politics over profits.


15 posted on 10/28/2010 9:33:39 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: potlatch

Great graphic! Joe and Valerie apparently need another 15 minutes of fame fix. Meanwhile, Richard Armitage and Colin Powell can smile that this episode will never be attributed to them. And where, exactly, does Scooter Libby go to restore his good name?


16 posted on 10/28/2010 9:48:04 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: potlatch

Great graphic! Joe and Valerie apparently need another 15 minutes of fame fix. Meanwhile, Richard Armitage and Colin Powell can smile that this episode will never be attributed to them. And where, exactly, does Scooter Libby go to restore his good name?


17 posted on 10/28/2010 9:48:31 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: potlatch

love it!

It’s no surprise that this propagandistic movie gets made, or that Matt Cooper is still the dim-witted shill for the ‘Rats he’s always been, but isn’t there someone in the media who can speak intelligently and factually about this case?


18 posted on 10/28/2010 11:53:01 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: Enchante

“key actors who will be entirely ignored, or else whitewashed, or simply fictionalized to serve lib talking points:

Richard Armitage
Colin Powell
Joe Wilson
Valerie Plame
Matt Cooper
David Corn
Patrick Fitzgerald”

Love it! Thank you!


19 posted on 10/29/2010 12:30:44 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Enchante

Cheney’s office never tasked Joe Wilson to do anything. Valerie Plame and a group of liberals she worked with came up with the idea. She was never said to be a secretary—she was said to have a desk job and most certainly wasn’t super spy when her name came out. Why was her name brought up? There were questions to Cheney’s office wondering
why they would ask a liberal dem that had vowed to destroy the Bush presidency and wanted to “frog march” him out of the white house to go looking for yellowcake in Niger. It was only after a reporter(I have my suspicions of who one of them was) told someone in the Bush administration that Joe Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA and that maybe she tasked her husband to be the super spy to find out if the yellowcake existed that people in the administration used her name and then only when reporters asked why he was sent. This was fraud of the highest order by a group who wanted to discredit Bush and Cheney. Joe Wilson had no qualifications other than he knew a few people. We had qualified CIA operatives that were already over there that could have done a credible investigation. I think Cheneys office asked a question about WMD’s and Valerie and Joe came up with their plan to act outraged because truth is of the utmost importance to them. Little problem—the Senate issued a report she lied to them when she said she wasn’t involved in sending her husband. Notice also with Obama in WH we aren’t getting CIA and State Dept leaks weekly? Valerie didn’t look too distraught when she and hubby did photo spread and said they had picked out the stars they wanted to play them in a movie. It is time to expose these frauds often and loudly if they choose to get in the spot light again. The media is guilty of perpetuating the lies and leave out big chunks of the facts.


20 posted on 10/29/2010 1:15:24 AM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: Enchante
And Matt Cooper has not a clue as to the tons of stuff we at this site and elsewhere viewed. A clown that has no bearing on what really went down.
The purchase by Iraq during the oil for peace program where East German specially designed RF furnaces especially for the processing of uranium ores. The moving about by the Iraqi to shift equipment, secret movement of industrial process information in regards to uranium processing, and atomic bomb fabrication etc., took place.
All under the lazy eyes of the so called watch dogs. Those that where often deceived and frustrated in how the Iraqi would call the shots... and close down facilities, move crap around to unknown facility... how the Iraqi played up to the world and US press as how they where being abused...
And do we forget how Wilson was found to be involved in a French Company that was involved with extracting yellow cake uranium ore from Niger.
The white washes continue.
This is all as bad as what we later found to be the case in Honolulo(sp?), where a radio operator saw bogies on the screen, and supposedly, his chief told him to not worry about it... it was only some incoming B25s.
We know that result of that one. I continue to be worried why within constraint, our last administration did not make a more forceful case as to the various WMD Iraq had every intent to mature.
I can buy the need to keep down the chatter as to where the nuclear fuels where keeped, but at this stage it is rather shabby for anyone with any grain of honest reporting would not admit Saddam had every intention of fully resurecting the Iraqi nuclear program once the oil for peace program was lifted.

21 posted on 10/29/2010 1:19:45 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Noob1999

The movie, “The China Syndrome,” utter trash fantasy, is why we don’t have nuclear power in this country.


22 posted on 10/29/2010 3:08:05 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: pookie18

Ping to Post #14, a Toon?


23 posted on 10/29/2010 3:10:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Enchante
Yet another slickly produced rewrite of history, à la "Charlie Wilson's War" (2007)
24 posted on 10/29/2010 3:52:14 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: SunkenCiv
Wilson came back with the answer no, and he was outraged when President Bush nevertheless stuck with the claim i

I might be wrong here but didn't Niger officials come forward and say that Wilson's claim of no uranium was false and that Hussein DID try to obtain some?

25 posted on 10/29/2010 3:59:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Enchante

How many people, years later, know much of Watergate except what was in the movies?

evidence the mccarthy era 180 degree demonization of the man...

teeman


26 posted on 10/29/2010 5:54:33 AM PDT by teeman8r (Shove It Beck, we like the costumes.)
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To: Enchante

1999 : (NIGER———THIS IS THE YEAR IN WHICH [ACCORDING TO 2004 BOOK BY FRMR US AMBASSADOR TO GABON JOE WILSON] IRAQI OFFICIAL MOHAMMED SAEED SAHHAF aka BAGHDAD BOB aka “COMICAL ALI” * APPROACHES A NIGERIEN OFFICIAL IN 1999 TO DISCUSS ‘EXPANDING TRADE’ [See YELLOWCAKE URANIUM])— “New look at Bush’s `16 words’,” by Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe Columnist, Boston Globe, July 11, 2004

JANUARY 2004 : (FRMR US AMBASSADOR TO GABON JOSEPH WILSON TALKS TO HIS NIGER SOURCE AGAIN; LEARNS THAT THE IDENTITY OF THE IRAQI OFFICIAL WHO APPROACHED A NIGERIEN OFFICIAL IN 1999 TO DISCUSS TRADE WAS FOREIGN MINISTER MOHAMMED SAEED SAHHAF aka ‘BAGHDAD BOB’ aka ‘COMICAL ALI’ [FORMER IRAQI FOREIGN MINISTRY OFFICIAL, AMBASSADOR TO SWEDEN, BURMA & THE UN BEFORE BECOMING IRAQI INFO MINISTER]) — - “Book Names Iraqi in Alleged ‘99 Bid to Buy Uranium,” by Susan Schmidt Washington Post Staff Writer , Washington Post, Friday, April 30, 2004, Page A16 , http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54640-2004Apr29.html


27 posted on 10/29/2010 7:25:32 AM PDT by piasa
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping. It’s time to send Hollywood to the unemployment line...lol. This movie sounds like a good place to start.


28 posted on 10/29/2010 7:36:24 AM PDT by penelopesire ('Obama's Wars' are with our own military..Bush's Wars were with our enemies!)
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FEBRUARY 20, 2010 : (REPORT : FL RADICAL LEFT CONGRESSMAN GRAYSON JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE IN NIGER DURING A COUP... )


29 posted on 10/29/2010 7:36:59 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Enchante
I saw the trailer this weekend waiting to see the movie "RED"

My first thought was NTSA

My only surprise was Oliver Stone didn't direct it

Pure BS Hollywood propaganda

30 posted on 10/29/2010 7:38:44 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: ntnychik

Old, old graphic as you know. Yes, Bush should have helped Scooter Libby.


31 posted on 10/29/2010 4:56:05 PM PDT by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Enchante
Thanks so much Enchante! I made that when it all was happening. I've learned to never delete a graphic, Plame-gate, Gorlick Wall, etc, they all seem to reemerge, lol.
32 posted on 10/29/2010 4:59:58 PM PDT by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Wilson and Plame are well matched.


33 posted on 10/29/2010 8:20:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

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34 posted on 10/30/2010 12:50:01 AM PDT by devolve (. . . . . WE*LL ALWAYS HAVE . . . . BUBBABURGERS . . . .)
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